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Old 01-11-2011, 11:33 AM   #1
Bablo
Default [Vehicle] Sisu SA-150 "Masi" [WIP](FDF)

Hi!
First of all, this is my first post, so might as well introduce myself a bit.
I've been playing PR for a year now and enjoy every second of it. About a week ago I joined a finnish group of modders as a modeler and started creating a truck for various tasks for their finnish faction.

The first goal is to create the troop transport version with open top and benches, then we will create a logistics version with a "closed" top, as seen on the last reference picture here. And last but not least a version with NSV(50 cal.), mounted on the roof.

So, here you can see the glorious Sisu SA-150, nicknamed "Masi".

I've pretty much finished with the modeling process and would like to receive some critics based on the wireframe shots below, before moving on with the unwrapping and lods.
Currently the model has 7512 triangles in it.

From an angle:




Bottom:


Top:


And here's some real photos of the SA-150 for comparison:




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Old 01-11-2011, 02:52 PM   #2
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OMG, nice to see new prolific people coming around! The Finish faction started really well.
Nice work on the truck, will you add a front bumper like in the screens? Strange, in the photos, the front of the cabin look leaned, is it an optical illusion?

Good luck for the model and the faction

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Old 01-11-2011, 02:58 PM   #3
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Could be an optical illusion created by the front bumper.



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Old 01-11-2011, 03:33 PM   #4
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Welcome Bablo to the Project Reality forums!

only thing i have to say is that we do not plan nor want a armed support truck in the mod, so you might want to leave the armed version out.
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Old 01-11-2011, 03:47 PM   #5
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Hello Bablo!

This is looking pretty good! I can't really spot any issues apart from the mirroring edges and some other redundant edges which you're probably aware of.
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Old 01-11-2011, 04:17 PM   #6
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Bloody nice modelling mate, I can't immediately see any issues, all the faces that need to be are welded. Only thing I would say is that it may not be worthwhile having as much detail on the bottom as you have, the two cylinders on the underside both have quite a lot of sides, and have a lot of edge loops running around them, some of which will rarely be visible to the user. Then again if the poly count is deemed low enough it's probably worthwhile leaving it.

Good luck with the unwrapping, I can see it being a headache with all the thin pipes/tubes.
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Old 01-11-2011, 04:19 PM   #7
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Thanks 162eRI, the "bumper" in the photos is actually a base for a snow plow, so I will probably leave it out of this one.
Also, it should be a optical illusion as far as I'm aware of.

Leusch, thanks for the heads up, I will pass on the message to the faction leader. Shame though, I thought it was a cool idea.

Thanks Adriaan, yeah I actually saw few rebelling edges there that I fixed right away. :P But if you can see anything major, please point them out for me to exterminate. ;P

Thanks, AquaticPenguin, yeah the bottom is really pain in the arse. It has so many points of interest but I really wouldn't want to create too much detail down there, poly-wise. I thought that I created pretty much the minimum, just the most important assets are there.

Cheers.
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Old 01-11-2011, 09:53 PM   #8
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I like the model a lot, just wish we could have the one with the big gun on the back.

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Old 01-12-2011, 07:36 AM   #9
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I like the model a lot, just wish we could have the one with the big gun on the back.
I'm sure it could be done, but that version the truck should only have 2 or 3 seats for balance reasons. We'll look more into it.
The only downside i can think of is that the AA gun in question (Zu- 23-2 "Sergei") would annihilate every helicopter in PR, think of the quad AA ingame and add optics and computer controlled platform to it.
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Old 01-12-2011, 08:44 AM   #10
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Hey Bablo.

The model overall looks pretty good to me, although I think your wheels could do with some more model detail in them as right now, they dont really have any, although I understand your planning to do the detail via normal maps, a tiny bit more model detail on the wheels could be good. Take a look at some of the other vehicles in PR and see how there wheels are made

Also it looks like your doors and some other items have a few unused verts, would be worth removing them to save a few tris

Other than that, looks pretty good to me at first glance

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Welcome Bablo to the Project Reality forums!

only thing i have to say is that we do not plan nor want a armed support truck in the mod, so you might want to leave the armed version out.
Ye, we decided long ago not to mount 50cals on our trucks as then the trucks wouldn't be used for there intended roles ingame (transport and logistics) but instead would be used more as a fire support weapon, which isn't at all realistic since the 50cal is there in r/l for defence, but wouldn't be used like that ingame and if it was, it would be a waste of a player when there are only 32 players a team.


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I'm sure it could be done, but that version the truck should only have 2 or 3 seats for balance reasons. We'll look more into it.
The only downside i can think of is that the AA gun in question (Zu- 23-2 "Sergei") would annihilate every helicopter in PR, think of the quad AA ingame and add optics and computer controlled platform to it.
TBH I think a version with a AA gun mounted on the back could be done, providing its pretty common in the finish forces to have it, as you could basically have an "AA Truck", with its only purpose being AA. This truck how ever would need to be used in very low numbers and only on maps where its appropriate but something to consider.

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