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Old 04-22-2015, 02:03 PM   #1
Wing Walker
Default X-ray Vison on Bots?

So, can the bots really see and shoot through all the trees on vegetation maps?

If so then why in the world are the co-op servers running maps like Mestia?
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Old 04-22-2015, 02:45 PM   #2
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yes, they can....

well, it doesn't mean you still can't play those maps... it's fun if you learn how to deal with bots in those maps...
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Old 04-22-2015, 04:15 PM   #3
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They can also see through smoke, that's why most co-op server don't allow you to throw smoke for cover.

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Old 04-22-2015, 09:17 PM   #4
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yes, they can....

well, it doesn't mean you still can't play those maps... it's fun if you learn how to deal with bots in those maps...
Actually if bot difficulty is too high, like on most coop servers, you get suppressed all the time and or insta-headshot.
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Old 04-23-2015, 03:05 PM   #5
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We were on Veterans Gaming Co-op and they had Miseta up and it was just stupid.

People getting into fire fights with invisible people.

It would be ok if they had in accurate fire, but then the actual fights are no fun.

I think Vet Gaming Co-op is awesome, those bots don't play!

Organization will still steam roll the bots, but you don't always have that. Really, there should only be trans for assets on co-op server maps, keep everyone on foot. That would level things up a bit and make them more interesting, other wise it seems to become a big bombing range, accept for urban maps.

I almost always Squad Lead there, its a great place to just have fun, and train newer players on how PR should be played.
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Old 04-23-2015, 03:58 PM   #6
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Actually is bot difficulty is too high, like on most coop servers, you get suppressed all the time and or insta-headshot.
yeah, there should be no supression effects on co-op, since it only affects players and not the cheating bots
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Old 05-06-2015, 02:01 PM   #7
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I am fine with suppression, just seems any map that is all forest shouldn't be ran on co-op servers. Only maps that are desert or urban.
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Old 05-06-2015, 02:47 PM   #8
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I am fine with suppression, just seems any map that is all forest shouldn't be ran on co-op servers. Only maps that are desert or urban.
well I see what you mean...

but still, I like having the possibility of playing them anyways
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Old 05-15-2015, 01:06 PM   #9
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I am fine with suppression, just seems any map that is all forest shouldn't be ran on co-op servers. Only maps that are desert or urban.
This problem can be compensated by running map specifiec weapon.ai templates for such forestmaps. A combo of modified weaponranges and/or optimalrangepercentages could balance this problem. This can be done map based without overhauling the whole weapon.ai structure of PR ai (there aren't many forestmaps in PR with botsupport).
Also, the weapons.ai can be fine tuned for different forestmaps (light, medium, heavy vegetation).
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Old 12-07-2015, 07:04 AM   #10
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Fastjack, could you tell me where to find those files? Are they in the zip files in the map folders?

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