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Old 2021-08-01, 11:33   #31
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Why are you even modding a game nobody enjoys due to one defunct NA server having monopoly?
The Monopoly server that has been active for more than 10 years. I mean they are doing something right no doubt about that (Server management wise). But their administration still has the mindset that the player base now is still the same player base 10 years ago and its not. The server rules needs a reform to compensate for the change the player base (I'm aware they are not obligated to nor will they even consider it) when last has HOG rules changed? I'm sure they haven't. They're also the only server that has a map specific rule which confuses the shit out of people. Many times people mix up Muttrah only rules for general rules and its annoying.

A question for the devs:
"We hold you accountable and responsible for the actions of said administrative staff on your server and services. If a player appeals any action taken against them, you will deal with their appeal in a fair manner and within a reasonable time-frame. You will provide the services and/or tools to allow them this appeal. You and your administrative staff may not discriminate against players belonging to particular groups of people."
This is straight from the license agreement, does this include reporting of administrator behaviour? Because I'm sure if you go to the HOG forums right now most, if not all, the reports against specific admins are unanswered. In addition, HOG does have a lot of racist admins, I would call names but I have no physical (Audio recordings or videos) proof of this so I'll keep it confidential at the moment. You will notice a lot of racism and discrimination coming from the general players as well when it comes to maps where ARF are concerned as well. Does this warrant DEV action or not?

Just some personal feedback:
I'm sure that I'm not the only one who hates 10 minute boring PR rounds because of the no rush rule. It wastes my time, If I wanted to just have 10 minute rounds they are many other things I could of done.

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Old 2021-09-28, 21:12   #32
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Hello i play this game for almost 3 years i know im (new) still back in years i play all the time with more then 10 my close friends and we all stop becuse hog is ONLY server where you can play ( i dont include Russian Reality for few reasons) Admins there abuse players all the time they destroying PR they ban people for everything for fucking anything today i see guy is ban bcs he say ( only muttrah niBBas <3 ) imagine ban somone for that thez abuse me like several times bcs im from Serbia one time some guy squerl or smth like that he ban me bcs i speak on my fucking launge if zou want to have new players make server without any dude who been admin on hog if you want to people play game or one day only few people is going to play on hog and some Russians on their server and what about us others ??? i dont play game bcs we dont have server where we can play admins on hog please developers do shit 2 years i read forum and people fucking crying and asking for help and you give us new updates fuck that frist make fucking server where we can expirence game not to play on russian reality where idk what they speak or brazzil server please developers make new servers or idk make to be free to open server
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Old 2021-09-28, 21:19   #33
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Guys to be honest i think PR developers dont give fuck about us and about normal players people saying how hog is bad for years now and admins dont want to make free seerver noo i need licence to have server i think developers make game for themselfs to play and to be honest they dont give a single fuck to others they dont give fuck bcs PR have maybe 300 active players bcs hog is only playeble server (sorry for english im angry and sad)
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Old 2021-09-28, 21:46   #34
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Guys to be honest i think PR developers dont give fuck about us and about normal players people saying how hog is bad for years now and admins dont want to make free seerver noo i need licence to have server i think developers make game for themselfs to play and to be honest they dont give a single fuck to others they dont give fuck bcs PR have maybe 300 active players bcs hog is only playeble server (sorry for english im angry and sad)
I have no ill feelings towards HOG, nor any other server. But I know the sentiment harbored among many members of the player base towards HOG. Many people refuse to play Project Reality at all, because the only viable server at most times, is HOG, and whether it be from personal feelings, or not being able to join the server at all. Many players abstain from Project Reality as a whole.

I agree that Project Reality needs an injection of new players. In recent years more amicable conditions and attitudes towards the Project Reality player base from the Developers have been noticed. But those gestures, do not fix the main issue at the heart of Project Reality's decline. Strict server codes. Yes Project Reality is an old game, but people still play games and modifications of games from before the millennium.


I dunno, I'm just spit balling here. But what if Project Reality was split into two versions?

Classic Project Reality: The standard 'vanilla' Project Reality experience. For the hardcore military simulation enthusiasts among us.

And,

Casual Project Reality: A more streamlined, quicker playing and easier to get into version of Project Reality; for the more 'impatient' among us. Casual Project Reality could hypothetically replace Co-Op, because many people; play Co-Op for the fast re-spawns and unlimited kits. But we detest playing against bots. Server licensing could also be more streamlined or nonexistent. Instead of requiring any onus amount of digital paperwork to run a server. The ability to start a server would be built in from the launcher and/or freely available. I know plenty of people who would gladly return to Project Reality and bring their server hosting capabilities with them. Myself included.
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Old 2021-09-29, 10:41   #35
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A PR server license costs nothing.

And to be honest - we don't care if players like you are banned from all PR servers.
(PS: https://hogclangaming.com/index.php/...n-appeal#31711 ).

@TeeHazmat - thanks, and yes we are in a frequent dialogue with server admins about various things including general ones like the one you have mentioned as well as individual cases.

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Old 2021-09-29, 16:51   #36
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A PR server license costs nothing.
It's not about the money. It's the principle of the thing. Imposing a barrier to entry such as a server licensing, goes against the spirit of game modding as a whole.
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Old 2021-09-29, 19:00   #37
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It's not about the money. It's the principle of the thing. Imposing a barrier to entry such as a server licensing, goes against the spirit of game modding as a whole.
Anyone can have a server license as long as they meet the requirements, How is that an issue?

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Old 2021-09-29, 19:39   #38
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Anyone can have a server license as long as they meet the requirements, How is that an issue?
A Project Reality server license comes with strings attached. I cant run it how I want. I have to run it how the you guys want. It goes against my principles. I believe that if I'm putting out the money to run a server, I should be able to do with it, what I want. Yes I know that; technically I can run custom rules, if I password protect my server. But I want my server to be open and available to all, without any need of further barriers to entry.

I'm no stranger to EULAs and server agreements in my professional life. But there's a difference. Those server agreements come with warranties and are designed to help me run my businesses. Project Reality is something I do to blow off steam.
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Old 2021-09-29, 19:59   #39
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The server files are public for everyone. You can host whatever server you want. People can join your IP at any time. Your client already has the server files and you're one click away from hosting an unlisted server.

But if you wanted listed on our infrastructure, you play by our rules.

Have you even read the license agreement? Its not as draconian as you make it sound.
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Old 2021-09-29, 23:19   #40
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Its not as draconian as you make it sound.
It is to me.
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