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Old 2010-07-14, 14:25   #1911
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Gast ik ben Nederlands, ik vind het ook wel tof enzo, maar een inhuldiging door de marine is er gewoon over. Het team van van Oranje wordt in een Chinook gestopt en er wordt een F16 oranje geschilderd om uiteindelijk weer grijs geschilderd te worden, wat denk je wel niet dat dat kost.

Man, I'm Dutch, I think it's cool and such to honor the national team, but this is just over the top. Elaborate and too expensive.
Why is this such a big deal?

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Old 2010-07-14, 14:42   #1912
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What wrong with landing and going home? At the end of the day they're just playing a game, and they didn't win it.
They're not heroes, this kind of attention would be undeserved, even for the winners.
You don't get it, the 600.000 people in Amsterdam did. (and probably more in the rest of the nation) It's not about whether they won the cup or not, they won a lot of matches and entertained almost a whole nation by getting that far. But you don't get that. I find it rather unthankful if these people managed to entertain so much, yet you don't give them a warm welcome home? And for the people who watched it, you could see that in the beginning they didn't liked it, but in the end on the stage they were smiling and partying, it cheered them up and that is something they certainly could use.

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Gast ik ben Nederlands, ik vind het ook wel tof enzo, maar een inhuldiging door de marine is er gewoon over. Het team van van Oranje wordt in een Chinook gestopt en er wordt een F16 oranje geschilderd om uiteindelijk weer grijs geschilderd te worden, wat denk je wel niet dat dat kost.

Man, I'm Dutch, I think it's cool and such to honor the national team, but this is just over the top. Elaborate and too expensive.
Que? Why bother typing it both in Dutch and English if only English is allowed here.

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Why is this such a big deal?
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too expensive.
There is your answer. What else would that Chinook crew be doing? Eating out of it's nose? And you are two years too late, when they painted a Leopard 2A6 orange (Geenstijl) for the Eurocup.

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Old 2010-07-14, 14:45   #1913
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Old 2010-07-14, 14:54   #1914
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Que? Why bother typing it both in Dutch and English if only English is allowed here.

The internet allows a lot of lies as in, I'm black and have a lot of guns at my home. Both lies, by typing Dutch I at least give something to indicate that I am really Dutch.
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Old 2010-07-14, 15:00   #1915
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The internet allows a lot of lies as in, I'm black and have a lot of guns at my home. Both lies, by typing Dutch I at least give something to indicate that I am really Dutch.
You could as well be an Englishman or a German who learned Dutch or used Google translator.


Saying you're Dutch is more than enough.

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Old 2010-07-14, 15:04   #1916
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You don't get it, the 600.000 people in Amsterdam did. (and probably more in the rest of the nation) It's not about whether they won the cup or not, they won a lot of matches and entertained almost a whole nation by getting that far. But you don't get that. I find it rather unthankful if these people managed to entertain so much, yet you don't give them a warm welcome home? And for the people who watched it, you could see that in the beginning they didn't liked it, but in the end on the stage they were smiling and partying, it cheered them up and that is something they certainly could use.


You're right, I don't get it. The cast of Seinfeld entertained millions of people every episode they did and I didn't see them get a parade every time they drove home from the set at night.
Is the obscene amount of money they are being payed for playing games not enough of a thank you for them?

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Old 2010-07-14, 15:53   #1917
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You could as well be an Englishman or a German who learned Dutch or used Google translator.


Saying you're Dutch is more than enough.
I quote google translator

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Man, ik ben Nederlandse, ik denk dat het cool en dergelijke ter ere van de nationale ploeg, maar dit is net over de top. Uitwerking en te duur.
Not really fluent right?
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Old 2010-07-14, 15:53   #1918
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You're right, I don't get it. The cast of Seinfeld entertained millions of people every episode they did
Comparing a TV-show with football... This team was representing our nation on the most important football competition in the world. If they would have won, the whole nation would have won (just as they say now Spain won the world cup), they are second in the world (vice-champions with a nice word) and they achieved a lot.

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and I didn't see them get a parade every time they drove home from the set at night.
I am not sure what your definition of 'every time' is, but the last time the national team got a welcome like that was 22 years ago, in 1988.

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Is the obscene amount of money they are being payed for playing games not enough of a thank you for them?
They are also sportsmen, who want to win. They came really close to the world cup, and the sad mood ruled among the men. I don't see why they shouldn't get a party for getting that far and that close to the world cup.

But hey, whatever, if you don't like that, you just don't. I am just happy they did got fun out of it and appreciated it. With that I have said enough about it.

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Old 2010-07-14, 16:45   #1919
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This team was representing our nation on the most important football competition in the world. If they would have won, the whole nation would have won.

This is the part I'm having problems wrapping my head around. To me it just seems like living vicariously through others.
I don't recognize any representation for myself so I can't view it this way. My view is that if I'm not personally playing on the team that wins, then I have no claim to pride.

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Old 2010-07-14, 17:11   #1920
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This is the part I'm having problems wrapping my head around. To me it just seems like living vicariously through others.
I don't recognize any representation for myself so I can't view it this way. My view is that if I'm not personally playing on the team that wins, then I have no claim to pride.
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