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Old 2015-11-15, 22:56   #31
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Europe really should sort its shit out and share/develop kit together more but it always goes wrong.

Eurofighter/Typhoon France drop out to make Rafale on their own (wanted carrier ability)
Tiger/Apache Contracts UK buys Roll Royce up engined Apache over Euro Tiger (apparently better performance)

Just imagine if Euro military could manage that - huge savings!
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Old 2015-11-18, 00:23   #32
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Even the G36 but I somehow dont like it. Even the Germans wont be using it, and are switching to 417.
I dont see them switching to 417, as this is basicly a marksman rifle, while the 416 is more of a main battle rifle


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Old 2015-11-18, 20:41   #33
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Wiki again :P

You are probably right, I was wondering too why they wrote 417. We use 416 in SOP units in both army and police. It is a weapon of choice for operators and mostly used over others ( even g36c/k )


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Old 2015-11-19, 09:28   #34
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Wiki again :P

You are probably right, I was wondering too why they wrote 417. We use 416 in SOP units in both army and police. It is a weapon of choice for operators and mostly used over others ( even g36c/k )
I can personally testify that the 416 is a extremely solid rifle. I remember shooting the thing in -30?C with a thick layer of snow and ice around the rifle and it still performed flawlessly. The only problem was when my breath would fog up the glass of the aimpoint and then freezing, making it very hard to see.

The 417 is also very good, but is only issued to designated marksmen in the Norwegian army


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Old 2015-11-20, 12:36   #35
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I dont see them switching to 417, as this is basicly a marksman rifle, while the 416 is more of a main battle rifle
The german military is using a modified version of the civilian HK417 (MR308 ) as a DMR: Heckler & Koch :: Produktbeschreibung | G28
It's not a replacement for the G36.
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Old 2016-07-18, 13:36   #36
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BREAKING: France Downselects FAMAS Rifle Replacement to Bids from Belgium, Germany - The Firearm Blog
Germany, Belgium to Compete for the Right to Equip French Army

416 vs FN SCAR. Looks like bullpup is ditched for good.

As an owner of a SCAR, they are FN Awesome!

Both rifles are top quality and have a proven track record out in the field. I recall that the SCAR did better in the reliability tests when the US army conducted them about 8 years ago. That's also due to the fact that the SCAR has a completely different mechanism taking design inspirations from several firearms, whereas the 416 is just a modification of an M4 using short stroke gas piston.


I haven't shot a FAMAS before, I don't think they sell them in the US. Anyone who served in the French military can comment on how they perform?


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Old 2016-07-18, 14:22   #37
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SCAR is an amazing rifle, very simple to break down and very easy to handle.

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Old 2016-07-18, 19:32   #38
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BREAKING: France Downselects FAMAS Rifle Replacement to Bids from Belgium, Germany - The Firearm Blog
Germany, Belgium to Compete for the Right to Equip French Army

416 vs FN SCAR. Looks like bullpup is ditched for good.

As an owner of a SCAR, they are FN Awesome!

Both rifles are top quality and have a proven track record out in the field. I recall that the SCAR did better in the reliability tests when the US army conducted them about 8 years ago. That's also due to the fact that the SCAR has a completely different mechanism taking design inspirations from several firearms, whereas the 416 is just a modification of an M4 using short stroke gas piston.


I haven't shot a FAMAS before, I don't think they sell them in the US. Anyone who served in the French military can comment on how they perform?
I served for half a month for some kind of military service. We weren't allowed to shoot it, so don't know much about its raw perfomances, but it's light, easy to handle and super easy to take apart
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Old 2016-08-31, 17:46   #39
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BREAKING: The Next French Infantry Rifle Is German - Heckler & Koch Reportedly WINS French AIF Rifle Competition - The Firearm Blog

Looking like the 416 will be it. Goodbye bullpups


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Old 2016-08-31, 18:10   #40
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Good to know HK isn't going bankrupt while waiting for VdL and her cohorts at the BMVg to stop sucking their thumbs and finally ask for a G36 replacement.

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