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Old 2016-05-21, 10:36   #21
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They were trying to buy two helicopter carriers from France recently, but sale was cancelled after Crimea.

Still tiny compared to US Wasp or America class.

This helicopter ships was sold to Egypt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypti...l_Abdel_Nasser
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egypti...Anwar_El_Sadat

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Old 2016-05-21, 12:12   #22
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I was wondering something. Does Russia is developing new battleships? Current Russian Navy fleet as old( Some ships have good firepower, but old. Like Project 1164 and Project 1144). US Navy have a modern ships( Like Ticonderoga and Arleigh Burke) and developing a more modern ships.(Gerald R. Ford, Zumwalt and Independence) What Russia is doing against it?
Sorry, I'm not really following news about navy.

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Old 2016-05-21, 15:00   #23
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Yes, however Russia will very likely use the knowledge gained by the technological transfer in order to build a similar ship by themselves.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future...e_Russian_Navy
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Old 2016-05-22, 16:38   #24
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They do seem keen on building an aircraft carrier as big as the Nimitz/Gerald Ford class carriers:
Russia claims it's in the early stages of developing an aircraft carrier that can hold 100 planes | Business Insider
TASS: Russia - Russia developing $5 bln aircraft carrier with no world analogs ? fleet commander
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Found this about an upcoming new destroyer of the Russian Navy, the Leader class:
http://sputniknews.com/russia/201512...ssia-navy.html



At 10.000 tonnes it's still half as small than a Kirov class Battlecruiser.


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Old 2016-05-22, 22:04   #25
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"One of their biggest initial problems is that Russia doesn't have any history in building aircraft carriers because the carriers the Soviet Union built were all built in Ukraine,"

The Soviets tried once before. In 1986, motived by national prestige, Moscow shirked its own naval doctrine and began construction on a supercarrier of its own. Displacing nearly 70,000 tons of water, the Ulyanovsk was laid down at the Nikolayev 444 shipyard on the Black Sea, just as every Soviet carrier before it. The Admiral Kuznetsov displaces 43,000 tons of water. U.S. Nimitz class carriers displace 97,000 tons. But the collapse of communism torpedoed the project in 1992, and Nikolayev 444, with its vast experience in carrier building, found itself in independent Ukraine.


The second project Russia hoped to use to develop carrier building techniques was the modernization of an older Soviet carrier, the Admiral Gorshkov, for the Indian navy in 2004. The Gorshkov was mothballed in the mid-1990s after a boiler room explosion crippled her. In 2004 India negotiated with Russia to receive the ship free of charge, with the stipulation it pay almost $1 billion to Russia's Sevmash to overhaul and modernize it.
Sevmash finished the project in 2013 and the cost of the refurbishment swelled to almost $3 billion

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Old 2016-06-13, 22:53   #26
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A new beast ready to conquer the atlantic.
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Old 2016-06-13, 23:05   #27
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I find it strange that Russia is (possibly; as we really can't trust media in the shitstorm that is nowadays) really considering a supercarrier. As noted - their navy is all about territorial water control (Russia has the 2nd biggest borders after China If I'm correct), and they have to cover a huuuuge territory with those ships.

If I got the doctrine right, carriers are all about assaults and deployment somewhere far away from the users nations own borders. So I guess (if the media is correct) Russia is looking forward to a military deployment somewhere far away from its borders (guess towards North America). But then again - if their navy is all about coastal waters then who will defend such a vulnerable and costly piece of equipment?
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Old 2016-06-13, 23:37   #28
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I find it strange that Russia is (possibly; as we really can't trust media in the shitstorm that is nowadays) really considering a supercarrier. As noted - their navy is all about territorial water control (Russia has the 2nd biggest borders after China If I'm correct), and they have to cover a huuuuge territory with those ships.

If I got the doctrine right, carriers are all about assaults and deployment somewhere far away from the users nations own borders. So I guess (if the media is correct) Russia is looking forward to a military deployment somewhere far away from its borders (guess towards North America). But then again - if their navy is all about coastal waters then who will defend such a vulnerable and costly piece of equipment?
Well Russian Navy is already a Blue Waters Navy, and a Aircraft Carrier is more a part of the recent rearmament from russia(which is expected, as their army is w/ aging equipment)
But w/ a change of doctrine from a BattleCruiser/Carrier, to a dedicated Carrier, compromising the gun power, to a bigger Air fleet, so if they make a dedicated carrier, you can expect the Kuznetsov being retired.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue-w...Classification
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Old 2016-06-14, 05:00   #29
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Yeah, actually after I wrote the comment only after that I did some research and read that Russia has been modernizing their fleet, and by 2020 they will have ~ 30 new ships and 20 new subs (or more). I guess it's only normal for such a big country that has so many potential enemies (I'm concentrating on the idea of "modernization" as I don't want to surf the paranoia wave (as our capital city is like 500 km from the border of Russia, and shit is slowly brewing in the Eastern Europe with NATO trying to relocate a couple of battalions in The Baltics and Poland).
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Old 2016-11-23, 07:30   #30
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