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Old 2011-04-27, 21:59   #1
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Why Russians are using Chinese Remington shotgun when there is Saiga shotgun in the game ?
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Old 2011-04-28, 20:09   #2
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by chinese remington shotgun , did you wanted to say "TOZ 34" ?

if yes, this is a russian pump action shotgun, used for police action is CQC ( or CQB ), mostly used by OMON or FSB, it's not used, or rarely by the regular army

if not, post picture please
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Old 2011-04-28, 20:15   #3
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the russian army rarely uses shotguns. so they didn't bother model them.
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Old 2011-04-28, 20:28   #4
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by chinese remington shotgun , did you wanted to say "TOZ 34" ?

if yes, this is a russian pump action shotgun, used for police action is CQC ( or CQB ), mostly used by OMON or FSB, it's not used, or rarely by the regular army

if not, post picture please
No,there is no TOZ in the PR,
I know that Russian Army is not using shotguns,but in PR they are using Norinco 982 which
is straight copy of some Remington shotgun,while MEC is using Russian Saiga shotgun.
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Old 2011-04-28, 20:29   #5
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the russian army rarely uses shotguns. so they didn't bother model them.
I know that,but MEC are using Russian Saiga shotgun.
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Old 2011-04-28, 20:58   #6
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I'm certain the devs are aware of it, it's really just a matter of resources. If they could add in a new shotgun or T-72 model into the game, I'm sure they would. Give 'em time.

PS - The SV-98 isn't widely used by the Russian Army, but it's in the game anyway simply because it's the most realistic sniper rifle available to them currently. I'm sure a similar rule would be applied to a Russian shotgun.

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Old 2011-04-28, 23:39   #7
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PS - The SV-98 isn't widely used by the Russian Army, but it's in the game anyway simply because it's the most realistic sniper rifle available to them currently. I'm sure a similar rule would be applied to a Russian shotgun.
Yeah that is true,also Chinese Army is not using it,but if China would manufacture,
it would be probably a copy of something Russian.
But few years ago China have develop real sniper rifle,but only for use in their police . . .
For now . . . I mean on JS 7.62 .
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Old 2011-04-29, 20:21   #8
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Yeah that is true,also Chinese Army is not using it,but if China would manufacture,
it would be probably a copy of something Russian.
But few years ago China have develop real sniper rifle,but only for use in their police . . .
For now . . . I mean on JS 7.62 .
According to the 0.95 change log, the SV-98 for China is a temporary model. A new Sniper for the Chinese should be added in the next version but I'm not sure.
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Old 2011-04-29, 22:09   #9
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There is no such thing as 'standard shotgun of Russian army', there is no any regulation on how and where such weapon could be used. The only troops who operate with such weapons are specnaz and the weapon that is most close to be standard is KS-23 used by MVD.
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Hello.
So, the first point that I want to mention is that the Armed Forces of Russia does not use shotguns. As far as I know, some tests of "Saiga" shotguns in combat conditions have taken place during the first Chechen war, but they were considered unsuccessful.
But if shotguns are have to be in the game due to the balance, why not to swap Chinese Norinco 982 with pump action KS-23 shotgun or semi-auto KS-K shotguns? They are as well not in service with the Army, but are used by the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs special units.
Here are some links in English:
KS-23:
KS-23 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Modern Firearms - KS-23
KS-K:
IZHMASH JSC official site

If anyone is interested in doing this, I can provide some additional images and information about these shotguns.
this should explain it a bit more
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Old 2011-04-30, 20:25   #10
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chinese use the QBS 09 now, and they are going to adopt the QBU 09 as their new cal .50BMG sniper rifle

QBU 09 : QBU-09 12.7x108mm Anti material rifle with digitized fire control system

QBS 09 : China’s QBS 09 Semi-automatic Shotgun | The Firearm Blog
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