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Old 2008-08-19, 16:13   #21
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You guys are harsh. This is a great idea!

Especially considering de fact that TA will fight MEC, Insurgents, Militia.
I fail to see how they would play like MEC, they not that similar in fact.
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Old 2008-08-20, 07:13   #22
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That APC looks like a Dutch YPR

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Old 2008-08-22, 06:34   #23
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Yea i agree its not a that hard job we can consider this after some factions are done..

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Old 2008-08-22, 09:20   #24
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I think that if you do make this faction, it will play too much like MEC. Especially considering the G3 is the main assault rifle for this faction...
hence why i think making the HK33 the main assault rifle would be better, for change in gameplay and also from those pictures it looks more used then the G3.

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Old 2008-08-22, 10:47   #25
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That APC looks like a Dutch YPR
It is.
Turkey also uses the YPR

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Old 2008-08-23, 05:20   #26
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Guys i will type down the inventory we discuss what we put in ok its starting in 3...2...1..


Land Forces
Main battle tanks
0 MİTÜP Turkish National Tank Project (a total of 1000 new MBTs will be produced)
298 Leopard 2A4
77 Leopard 1A3T1/TU120
150 Leopard 1A3T1
165 Leopard 1T (under Volkan Tank Improvement Project)
170 M 60T (under M60 Tank Modernization Project)
658 M 60A3 TTS
105 M 60A1 RISE Passive
760 M 60A3
619 M 60A1
103 M 48T5 (upgraded and converted to ARVs)
1200+ M 48A3 (reserve)
Armored personnel carriers
750+ FNSS Armored infantry fighting vehicle
1500+ FNSS Advanced armored personnel carrier
58+ FNSS Armored TOW vehicle
170+ FNSS Armored mortar vehicle (self-propelled 81 mm mortar
3162 M-113 A/A1/A2T1/A2T2 Armored Personnel Carrier (upgraded)
10+ M-125A1 (self-propelled M-29 81mm mortar)
179 M-106A1 (self-propelled M-30 107mm mortar)
156 M-113 Improved TOW Vehicle
481+ Otokar Cobra (4x 4)
665+ Otokar Akrep (4x 4)
100+ Otokar Yavuz (8x
240+ BTR-80 (8x
50+ FNSS Pars (8x (+52 ordered)
0 New MILAN carrier vehicles (+344 to be procured)
0 New TOW carrier vehicles (+350 to be procured)
0 New 40mm Grenade Launcher carrier vehicles (+229 to be procured)
Unarmored personnel carriers
4125 Unimog 4000-5000 (utility truck)
9800+ Land Rover Defender (utility vehicle)
530+ Otokar Engerek[12] (deployed at Northern Cyprus)
5700 Jeep Wrangler (utility vehicle)
575 BMC FATIH 270 (utility truck)
360 MAN TRUCK (utility truck)
80 Oshkosh Truck (long vehicle)
140 Mercedes-Benz Axor (long vehicle)
380 Mercedes-Benz Actros (utility truck)
Helicopters
6 Sikorsky S-70A17 Blackhawk
42 Sikorsky S-70A28 Blackhawk (13 will undergo Aselsan avionics upgrade, 8 SOF)
52 Sikorsky S-70D28 Blackhawk
28 Eurocopter AS-532UL Cougar Mk1 (4 SAR, 4 ambulance, 16 utility, 4 VIP)
28 Bell AB206B3 JetRanger
23 Agusta Bell AB205AT/2020
41 Agusta Bell AB205A1
52 Bell UH-1H/2020-ASAM
20 Bell UH-1D
42 Bell UH-1H Iroquois (24 for training)
18 Mi-17 IVA
0 Heavy Lift Helicopter (+10 to be procured, possibly Boeing CH-47 or Sikorsky CH-53E)
Attack helicopters
0 Agusta Westland T129 (a total of 51 (+40 optional) will be produced in Turkey)
0 Boeing AH-64 Apache (10 helicopters are planned to be purchased)
9 Bell AH-1W Super Cobra
27 Bell AH-1P/S Cobra (upgraded to AH-1F standard)
6 Bell TAH-1P Cobra (combat trainer)
Air-to-ground missiles
215 Hellfire II K2 (for the AH-1W Super Cobra helicopters)
0 Roketsan Cirit (78mm semi-active laser rocket, more than 1000 will be built up to early 200
0 Roketsan UMTAS (160mm heavy anti-tank missile, more than 1000 will be built up to early 2008, project worth US$35m)
n/a TOW II (for the AH-1P/S Cobra helicopters)
Anti-aircraft missiles
50+ Atılgan KMS (1x8 FIM-92B/C Stinger)
50+ Zıpkın KMS (1x4 FIM-92 Stinger)
800+ FIM 92B/C Stinger RPM (4875 missiles)
1000+ FIM-43A Redeye
40 9M39 Igla (SA-18 Grouse)
Anti-tank missiles
390+ MILAN With MIRA thermal sights
365 BGM-71 TOW I/II/A/B
800 Kornet-E (under delivery, +720 optional)
40000+ M72 A2 LAW (66mm)
5000+ RPG-7 (40mm)
550 ERYX (1200 missiles)
70 9M113M Konkurs (AT5 Spandrel) (420 missiles)
185 Cobra (for training)
Anti-aircraft guns
300 L/70 & L/70T Bofors (40mm) (50 with Officine Galileo P56 optical sight)
600+ L/60 & M1A1 Bofors (40mm)
100+ Oerlikon GDF-001 (2x35mm)
120 Oerlikon GDF-003 (2x35mm)
440 Oerlikon GAI-D01 (2x20mm)
300+ Rheinmetall Mk.20 Rh202 (2x20mm)
110 M42 Duster (2x40mm)
900 M55 (4x12.7mm)
Rocket artillery
100 TR-300 Kasırga WS-1A (4x302mm, 80km)
n/a TR-300 Kasırga WS-1B (4x302mm, 180km)
72 ATACMS MGM 140 Block I (165km)
12 M-270 MLRS (12X227mm, 35km)
n/a Roketsan T-300 MLRS (100km)
80+ Roketsan T-122 MLRS (40x122mm, 40km)
50+ Roketsan TR-107 MLRS (12x107mm)
24 RA 7040 MLRS (40x70mm)
n/a TOROS 230A MLRS (6x230mm, 65km)
n/a TOROS 260A MLRS (4x260mm, 110km)
36 Roketsan J-600T Yıldırım I SRBM (150km)
n/a Roketsan J-600T Yıldırım II SRBM (300km)
Self-propelled artillery
150+ T-155 Fırtına 155/52 SP-2000 (155mm) (a total of 350 will be produced)[25]
219 M-110A2 (203mm)
9 M-55 (203mm)
36 M-107 (175mm)
222 M-44T (155mm) (upgraded)
365 M-52T (155mm) (upgraded)
26 M-108T (155mm) (upgraded)
Towed artillery
180+ T 155 Panter 155/52 FT-2000 (155mm) (a total of 400 will be produced)
100+ Lightweight Howitzer to be procured and is being developed by MKEK.
830 M-101A1 (105mm)
535 M-114 (155mm)
162 M-115 (203mm)
180 M-116 (75mm)
171 M-59 (155mm)
128 Skoda (105mm)
12 M.39 Skoda (105mm) (for training)
11 105R Metalgun (105mm) (for training)
Recoilless artillery
2135 M 40A (106mm)
1000 M 20 (75mm) (in storage)
850 M 18 (57mm) (in storage)
Mortars
578 HY-12Di (120mm)
324 UT1 (81mm)
3175 M1/M29 (81mm)
1265 M-30 (107mm)
n/a M-19 (60mm)



Small ArmsWeapon Caliber Notes
AK-47 (Kalashnikov) 7.62x39mm WP Used by some units of the Gendarmerie.
CheyTac Intervention M200[26] .408 Chey Tac Special forces and marines sniper rifle
FN MAG 7.62x51mm NATO Machine Gun
FN P90 5.7x28mm Submachine gun
FN MINIMI 5.56x45mm NATO Machine Gun
Gepard anti-materiel rifle 12.7 x 107 mm Special forces and marines Anti-materiel rifle
HK MP5 9x19mm NATO Made under license by Makina ve Kimya Endustrisi Kurumu (MKE)
HK 33 5.56x45mm NATO Made under license by Makina ve Kimya Endustrisi Kurumu (MKE)
HK G3 7.62x51mm NATO Made under license by Makina ve Kimya Endustrisi Kurumu (MKE)
HK G3A7 7.62x51mm NATO Made under license by Makina ve Kimya Endustrisi Kurumu (MKE)
HK 69A1 40x46mm Made under license by Makina ve Kimya Endustrisi Kurumu (MKE)
Kalekalıp .308 7.62x51mm NATO Special forces and marines sniper rifle
Kalekalıp Avunya .50 BMG Special forces and marines sniper rifle
M4 carbine 5.56x45mm NATO Special forces and marines
M16 rifle 5.56x45mm NATO Special forces and marines
Mehmetçik-1 based on Heckler & Koch HK416 5.56x45mm NATO Made under license by Makina ve Kimya Endustrisi Kurumu (MKE)
Mk 19 grenade launcher 40x53mm Made under license by Roketsan
M203 40x46mm Grenade Launcher
MG3 7.62x51mm NATO Made under license by Makina ve Kimya Endustrisi Kurumu (MKE)
SVD (Dragunov) 7.62x54mm R WP Used by some units of the Gendarmerie.
Sako TRG-42 .338 Lapua Magnum Special forces and marines sniper rifle
T-40 40x46mm Made under license by Makina ve Kimya Endustrisi Kurumu (MKE)
Tavor TAR-21 5.56x45mm NATO Special forces and marines
Airforce
Fighter aircraft
0 F-35A Lightning II (order for 116 F-35A approved by the Turkish Ministry of Defence on 12/12/2006, memorandum of understanding signed on 25/1/2007)
0 F-16C/D Block 50+ (30 new F-16 aircraft will be built by TAI)
218 F-16C/D[26] Block 30/40/50 (all of them will reach the Block 50+ standard with the CCIP upgrade program. TAI has delivered the first two F-16 CCIP aircraft to the Turkish Air Force under the Peace Onyx III program on May 20, 2008.)
52 F-4E 2020 Terminator (upgraded by IAI with enhanced air-to-ground capabilities)
71 F-4E Phantom II (48 will be upgraded by TAI for optimization in air-to-air capabilities)
32 RF-4E Phantom II
44 F-5 2000 (upgraded by IAI with enhanced capabilities)
22 F-5A/B Freedom Fighter
14 NF-5A/B Freedom Fighter (Turkish Stars Aerobatics Team)
Air-to-air missiles
820 AIM-120C AMRAAM (Under Delivery)
314 AIM-120A/B AMRAAM (176 AIM-120A + 138 AIM-120B)
367 AIM-7E Sparrow
457 AIM-9X Sidewinder (225[28] + 127[29] + 105)
210 AIM-9B Sidewinder
500 AIM-9M Sidewinder
640 AIM-9L/I Sidewinder
310 AIM-9S Sidewinder
750+ AIM-9P3 Sidewinder
Air-to-ground missiles
95 AGM-88B HARM
99 AGM-142 Popeye/Have Nap
50 AGM-84K SLAM-ER
50 AGM-154A-1 JSOW Block-II
54 AGM-154C JSOW-C / Broach
274 AGM-65G1 Maverick IIR
550 AGM-65A/B Maverick
200 GBU 8/B HOBOS
1200 GBU 10/12 Paveway I-II
n/a CBU 105 Sensor Fuzed Bomb
523 BLU-107 Durandal
n/a AN/AVQ 23 Pave Spike (laser designation pod for F-4E)
40 AN/AAQ 14 LANTIRN
40 AN/AAQ 13 LANTIRN
33 Litening-III (option for 20 more)
Anti-aircraft missiles
48 I-Hawk XXI (HAWK-21) (1x3) launchers
72 MIM-14B Nike Hercules
86 Rapier FSB1 (85 launchers updated to Rapier B1X level. 840 additional Mk2B missiles under delivery)
n/a Zipkin KMS (1x4 FIM-92 mounted Stinger, 32 units under delivery)
108 FIM-92C Stinger RMP
Tactical transport aircraft
0 Airbus A400M (+10 ordered)
7 C-130E Hercules (to be upgraded)
6 C-130B Hercules (with ELINT/SIGINT equipment)
19 C-160T Transall
50 CN 235-100M
VIP transport aircraft
1 Airbus A319-115X (VIP Transport)
3 Grumman Gulfstream-IV (VIP Transport)
2 Cessna 550 Citation II (VIP Transport)
2 Cessna 560 Citation V (VIP Transport)
2 Cessna 650 Citation VII (VIP Transport)
1 Beech King Air 200 (Comms)
Tanker aircraft
7 KC-135R-CRAG Stratotanker
Early warning aircraft
4 B-737-700 AEW&C MESA (option for 2 more)
Unmanned aerial vehicles
0 TIHA MALE Attack/Surveillance UAV[31][32][33] (+18 under construction)
40 Heron MALE Attack/Surveillance UAV (1000/3300 km)
107 Harpy Attack UAV (500 km)
2 I-GNAT Surveillance UAV (500 km)
Trainer aircraft
69 T-38A Talon (received structural upgrade)
61 Cessna T-37B/C (received structural upgrade)
38 Aermacchi SF-260D
26 T-41D Mescalero
0 KAI KT-1 (40 on order to replace T-37s)
Helicopters
20 AS 532UL Cougar Mk1 (14 SAR + 6 CSAR)
19 Bell UH-1H Iroquois (SAR/ECM/Utility)



Naval Forces

TURKISH NAVY
Submarines
4 Gür Class Type 209T2/1400 Submarines
4 Preveze Class Type 209T1/1400 Submarines
6 Atılay Class Type 209/1200 Submarines
0 Type 214 AIP Submarines (+6 approved on 12/12/2006)
Frigates
2 SalihReis Class (MEKO 200 TN II-B) Frigates
2 Barbaros Class (MEKO 200 TN II-A) Frigates
4 Yavuz Class (MEKO 200 TN I) Frigates
8 G Class (Oliver Hazard Perry class) Frigates (under GENESIS modernization project, possible sale of two more Perry class frigates (FFG-12 and FFG-14) has been approved by the U.S. Congress on 24/10/2007.If the Turkish Navy accepts this offer, the total number of Perry class frigates operated by Turkey will rise to ten. A similar previous offer by the United States regarding the transfer of two Spruance class destroyers (DD-985 and DD-987) was likewise approved by the U.S. Congress, but the acquisition of these two ships has not been approved by the Turkish Navy.)
2 Tepe Class (Knox class) Frigates (other 6 ships of this class retired)
0 TF-2000 Class Frigates (+4 AAW frigates approved on 12/12/2006)
Corvettes
0 Milgem Class Corvettes (a total of 12 will be built).[20][21] The first eight ships of this class will be classified as corvettes, while the last four will be named the F-100 class and will be classified as frigates. The F-100 class will be equipped with the Mk.41 VLS and ESSM, along with other additional systems for improved multirole combat capabilities.
6 B Class (D'Estienne d'Orves class A-69 type Aviso) Corvettes
Fast Attack Missile & Torpedo Boats
5 Kılıç II Class (+1 under construction)
3 Kılıç I Class
2 Yıldız Class
4 Rüzgar Class
4 Doğan Class
8 Kartal Class
8 Türk Class
0 New ASW OPV Class (+16 under construction)
Helicopters & Naval Aircraft
0 ATR 72-500 ASW/ASuW MPA (+10 under construction)
6 CASA CN-235 ASW/ASuW MPA
7 TB-20 Training Aircraft
7 SeaHawk (S-70B2 Class) ASW/ASuW Helicopters (+17 ordered)
3 AB-204 Class Naval Warfare ASW/ASuW/EW/SAR Helicopters
14 AB-212 Class Naval Warfare ASW/ASuW/EW/SAR Helicopters
8 AB-412 EP Class Bell 412 Rescue Helicopter
Mine Warfare Ships
4 A Class Mine Hunters (+2 under construction)
5 E Class Mine Hunters
4 F Class Mine Sweepers
7 S Class Mine Sweepers
3 K Class Mine Sweepers
0 Osprey class coastal minehunter (possible transfer of 3 mine warfare ships approved by the U.S. Congress on 24/10/2007, pending approval by the Turkish Navy)
Main Landing Ships
0 LPD Landing Platform Dock (+1 approved on 12/12/2006)[28]
1 OsmanGazi Class
2 SarucaBey Class
2 Ertuğrul Class LST
0 New LST Class (+2 approved on 12/12/2006)[29]
Landing Craft
0 New LCT Class (+8 approved on 12/12/2006)[30]
25 Ç-117 Class LCT
17 Ç-302 Class LCM
Survey Ships
2 Çeşme Class
1 Çubuklu Class
2 Meseha Class
Support Ships
2 Akar Class
2 Albay Burak Hakkı Class
Transport Ships
1 TCG Iskenderun A1600
Training & School Ships
2 Rhein Class
8 Training Craft
Salvage Ships
1 Diver Class
1 Bluebird Class
1 Chanticleer Class
Tugs
1 Darıca Class
1 Tenace Class


Turkish Gendermarie

(This can be used for Pr definately!!!)
The Turkish Gendarmerie (Turkish: Jandarma Genel Komutanlığı) is a branch of the Turkish Armed Forces and it is responsible for the maintenance of the public order in areas that fall outside the jurisdiction of police forces (generally in rural areas), as well as assuring internal security and general border control along with carrying out other specific duties assigned to it by certain laws and regulations. It is an armed security and law enforcement force of military nature.

Gendermarie Forces
TURKISH GENDARMERIE
Armored personnel carriers
340 BTR-60PB (upgraded)
250+ Otokar Akrep (4x4)
100+ Otokar Cobra (4x4)
60 Dragon 300 (AFV) (4x4)
25 Condor (APC) (4x4)
35 UR416 (4x4)
200 Cadillac Gage (4x4)
200 Cadillac V150/S (4x4)
200+ Shorland S55 (4x4)
5 Rn 94 (6x6)
47 Sisu Nasu
Helicopters
21 S-70A28 Blackhawk
5 S-70A17 Blackhawk
14 AB205A1
18 Mi-17 IVA

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Old 2008-08-23, 05:39   #27
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So we can now decide what we put in that can be easily made... Scenario ideas i actually think that gendermarie is the best because they have the control of rural areas and we can make a Gendermarie vs Pkk(Terrorists) mountainous area battle ( i dont say we will make it now just as to clear up in mind) A Mec vs Turkish Army can be also.

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Old 2008-08-23, 08:20   #28
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That is a big army.
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Old 2008-08-23, 09:22   #29
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lol erhm the topic please which easy weopenary could be useful which battlescales could be though creative and easy to make please

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Old 2008-08-23, 11:45   #30
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well theres enough weapons there already in game to be used

like to get them ingame you could start off with the G3 as their main rifle, then switch it to a HK33 when a model is produced etc etc

plus like mentioned before theres plenty of scenarios that could crop up and they could fight almost anyone.

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