Remove Night Maps

Imchicken1 · 2018-05-27, 01:57

Night maps have been requested forever in PR, and now that they are here people have realised that they are not worth it. They were neat during BF2:Special Forces, due to the neat equipment and NVGs, but NVGs do not exist in PR.

The evening maps are fine for the flare effects and gun flashes, but full on night maps, such as Goose Green Inf, physically hurt people.

[R-DEV]Suchar · 2018-05-27, 13:53

night_map.png > any_other_map.gif

Acecombatzer0 · 2018-05-27, 15:20

Are NVGs and PEQs not possible with the BF2 engine?

Rabbit · 2018-05-27, 15:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acecombatzer0

Are NVGs and PEQs not possible with the BF2 engine?

NVGs are but would require a rework from how they used to work. Not sure about PEQs.

Tajulek · 2018-05-27, 17:08

What is exactly the problem? Maps are usually set in a process of voting, so if people truly don't want the night maps, then they won't get any, that simple. Thus, removing them doesn't have any sense.

Psyko · 2018-05-27, 20:57

I stubbed my toe, better chop off my leg.

[R-DEV]Arab · 2018-05-28, 10:42

Theoretically, thermals can be used as an alternative to BF2 Special Forces's shader effect, though it would still need to take up a weapon slot.

For example, key 9 (Parachute key) would need to be the NVG which looks to not be an issue.

The XPACK/Special Forces Expansion's NVG would also need to be rewritten to point to the thermal guiIndexes. Nightvision Goggles would need to be checked to make sure they won't clip through the model. But yes, it's possible.

They can be loaded with the _night faction variant.

I'll try to work on it as a test, see if it's possible.

WeeGeez · 2018-05-28, 17:06

Night maps are fine. Bigger fishes to fry imo.

[R-DEV]AlonTavor · 2018-05-28, 17:15

Night maps are whoever-turns-gamma-up-more-wins. I also don't like them.

Murphy · 2018-05-29, 16:58

The maps bring something new to the game so I am always for that, but the way night is simulated in this engine is horrific. Vietnam maps at night are by far the worst experience in this game. You either camp a bush or get wasted from someone else camping in a bush, maneuvering is punished beyond the initial deployment. I can see the fun in night layers but it's just soured by how far gameplay departs from the standard maps.

View Poll Results: Should night layers/maps be removed?
Yes	14	32.56%
No	18	41.86%
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2018-05-27, 01:57	#1
Imchicken1 Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 509 Canada Location: Alert, Nunavut	Remove Night Maps Night maps have been requested forever in PR, and now that they are here people have realised that they are not worth it. They were neat during BF2:Special Forces, due to the neat equipment and NVGs, but NVGs do not exist in PR. The evening maps are fine for the flare effects and gun flashes, but full on night maps, such as Goose Green Inf, physically hurt people.
	I won't cluck for you

2018-05-27, 13:53	#2
[R-DEV]Suchar PR:BF2 Developer Join Date: Oct 2016 Posts: 1,310 Poland Blog Entries: 1	Re: Remove Night Maps night_map.png > any_other_map.gif

2018-05-27, 15:20	#3
Acecombatzer0 Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 547 Cayman Islands Location: 29 Stumps	Re: Remove Night Maps Are NVGs and PEQs not possible with the BF2 engine?
	CrazyHotMilf: can you release PR 1.0 today cause its my birthday and i want to play it ? because its gonna be very nice and every thing

2018-05-27, 17:08	#5
Tajulek Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 38 Poland Location: Greater Poland	Re: Remove Night Maps What is exactly the problem? Maps are usually set in a process of voting, so if people truly don't want the night maps, then they won't get any, that simple. Thus, removing them doesn't have any sense.
	A.K.A. Peeshcheck

2018-05-27, 20:57	#6
Psyko Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,405 Ireland	Re: Remove Night Maps I stubbed my toe, better chop off my leg.
Psyko Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,405 Ireland

2018-05-28, 10:42	#7
[R-DEV]Arab PR:BF2 Developer Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 2,513 Australia Blog Entries: 3	Re: Remove Night Maps Theoretically, thermals can be used as an alternative to BF2 Special Forces's shader effect, though it would still need to take up a weapon slot. For example, key 9 (Parachute key) would need to be the NVG which looks to not be an issue. The XPACK/Special Forces Expansion's NVG would also need to be rewritten to point to the thermal guiIndexes. Nightvision Goggles would need to be checked to make sure they won't clip through the model. But yes, it's possible. They can be loaded with the _night faction variant. I'll try to work on it as a test, see if it's possible.

	Last edited by [R-DEV]Arab; 2018-05-28 at 13:20..

2018-05-28, 17:06	#8
WeeGeez Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 827 United Kingdom	Re: Remove Night Maps Night maps are fine. Bigger fishes to fry imo.
WeeGeez Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 827 United Kingdom	Cheap computer build / fast track upgrade for slow computer for PR > Guide

2018-05-28, 17:15	#9
[R-DEV]AlonTavor PR:BF2 Developer Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 2,987 Israel	Re: Remove Night Maps Night maps are whoever-turns-gamma-up-more-wins. I also don't like them.

2018-05-29, 16:58	#10
Murphy Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2,331 Canada Location: Montreal, Quebec	Re: Remove Night Maps The maps bring something new to the game so I am always for that, but the way night is simulated in this engine is horrific. Vietnam maps at night are by far the worst experience in this game. You either camp a bush or get wasted from someone else camping in a bush, maneuvering is punished beyond the initial deployment. I can see the fun in night layers but it's just soured by how far gameplay departs from the standard maps.

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