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Old 2016-10-03, 11:54   #1
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Question Amount of commander players in the Project Reality Tournament

The nominal history of the commander players in the Project Reality Tournament
2006 - 2016

Dear commander players and others interested

I want to find out how many tournament players, who has played the function of the PRT Commander, since campaign 1, back in 2006 until campaign 12, our time, in 2016. The function is incredibly difficult to master and as consequence it is far from all having completed a full campaign.

Motivation
My curiosity is based on my original question:

Can the commander players learn anything, from the absolute amount of commander players, having completed the entirety of one or more tournament campaigns, compared to the amount not having accomplished a full campaign?

Nominal data needed
In order to ask that question, however, the nominal figures has to be established first;
  • How many commander players has there been in total?
  • How many did not complete a full campaign?

For the players having completed at least one full campaign, I ask the following questions:
  • how many completed one full campaign?
  • how many completed one full and partly a second campaign?
  • how many completed two full campaigns?
  • how many completed two full and partly a third campaign?
  • how many completed three full campaigns?
  • how many completed three full and partly a fourth campaign?


I my self completed one full campaign as the appointed commander of the C5 PELA Team - People's Elite Liberation Army ? Opfor and partly as the appointed commander of the C6 CATA 2 Army - Central Asian Treaty Alliance ? Opfor.


My questions to you
I therefore ask to anyone, who remembers, either who in person or how many, who was appointed as the tactical team commander, in the following twelve campaigns:

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Tactical Team Commanders

- C1 ARRC Team - Allied Rapid Reaction Corps - Blufor
(UK_force partly completed)
(Gaz partly completed)

- C1 EJOD Team - Eastern Joint Operations Division - Opfor (DEDMON5811 completed)


- C2 NODFOR Team - NATO Defence Force - Blufor (Alex L. completed)
- C2 ASOG Team - Arab Special Operations Group - Opfor
(Maverick partly completed)
(H1tman partly completed)
(Kravixon partly completed)


- C3 NARFOR Team - North Atlantic Response Force - Blufor
(Alex L. partly completed)
(Hitperson partly completed)

- C3 PELA Team - People's Elite Liberation Army - Opfor
(Unknown? partly completed)
(Solitas partly completed)


- C4 ARRC Team - Allied Rapid Reaction Corps - Blufor
(Hitperson partly completed?)

- C4 RFAD Team - Rapid Force Assault Detachment - Opfor (Deg.0 completed)


- C5 BCST Team - British Combined Services Taskforce - Blufor
(NiGHTWolf partly completed)
(Solitas partly completed)
(GrayeKnight partly completed)

- C5 USEF Team - United States Expeditionary Force - Blufor (CasualtyUR completed)
- C5 MEDI Team - Middle East Defense Initiative - Opfor (H1tman completed)
- C5 PELA Team - People's Elite Liberation Army - Opfor (Michael_Denmark completed)


- C6 NATO 1 & NATO 2 Armies - North Atlantic Treaty Organization - Blufor
(Mars partly completed)
(Noobofthenight partly completed)
(Eddiereyes partly completed)
)

- C6 CATA 1 & CATA 2 Armies - Central Asian Treaty Alliance - Opfor (H1tman completed)
(Michael_Denmark partly completed)
(Bonsai partly completed
)


- C7 NATO 1 & NATO 2 Armies- North Atlantic Treaty Organization - Blufor
(Eddiereyes partly completed)
(Smeggles partly completed)

- C7 CATA 1, CATA 2 & CATA 3 Armies - Central Asian Treaty Alliance - Opfor (Aquiller completed)
(Bonsai partly completed)
(HunterMed partly completed)
(Afvalbak partly completed)
(H1tman partly completed)


- C8 Unified NATO Team (Alpha & Bravo) - North Atlantic Treaty Organization - Blufor (P*Funk completed)
(Jigsaw partly completed)


- C8 CATA 2 & CATA 3 Armies - Central Asian Treaty Alliance - Opfor (Afvalbak completed)
(Aquiller partly completed)
(L4gi partly completed)


- C8.5 NATO
- C8.5 CATA


- C9 NATO Alpha & Charlie Armies - North Atlantic Treaty Organization - Blufor (AgentMongoose completed)
- C9 Unified CATA Team - Central Asian Treaty Alliance - Opfor (Bonsai completed)


- C10 PAC Team - Pan Atlantic Coalition - Blufor (Cruzmissile completed)
- C10 EMF Team - Eastern Military Federation - Opfor
(Age partly completed)
(Danger partly completed)
(Snipd partly completed)



- C11 PDI Team - Pacific Defense Initiative (Hotfranc completed)
(Fnixer? partly completed)

- C11 MRF Team - Mediterranean Response Force (Aleon completed)

- C12 APN Team - Allied Pacific Nations (ytman completed)
- C12 EMC Team - Euro-Arabian Millitary Coalition Force (Senshi completed)

- C13 VOG TEAM - Vanguard Operations Group (CAS_ual_TY in progress)
- C13 RPX TEAM - Riamh Pax (PeppeJ in progress)

And for the appointed Supreme Commanders, names and or numbers, are needed for the sixth to the eleventh campaign. Preferable if a full campaign was completed or not:

Quote:
Supreme Commanders

- C6 NATO 1 & NATO 2 Armies - North Atlantic Treaty Organization - Blufor
- C6 CATA 1 & CATA 2 Armies - Central Asian Treaty Alliance - Opfor

- C7 NATO 1 & NATO 2 Armies- North Atlantic Treaty Organization - Blufor
- C7 CATA 1, CATA 2 & CATA 3 Armies - Central Asian Treaty Alliance - Opfor


- C8 Unified NATO Team (Alpha & Bravo) - North Atlantic Treaty Organization - Blufor
(Eddiereyes partly completed)
(Colonelcool partly completed)
(P*Funk partly completed)

- C8 CATA 2 & CATA 3 Armies - Central Asian Treaty Alliance - Opfor (Afvalbak completed)
(Aquiller partly completed)
(L4gi partly completed)


- C8.5 NATO (P*Funk completed)
- C8.5 CATA


- C9 NATO Alpha & Charlie Armies - North Atlantic Treaty Organization - Blufor (P*Funk completed)
- C9 Unified CATA Team - Central Asian Treaty Alliance - Opfor (Orthas completed)

- C10 PAC Team - Pan Atlantic Coalition - Blufor (Spook completed)
- C10 EMF Team - Eastern Military Federation - Opfor (Norby completed)

- C11 PDI Team - Pacific Defense Initiative (Danger completed)
- C11 MRF Team - Mediterranean Response Force (Cossack completed)

- C12 APN TEAM - Allied Pacific Nations (Yrkidding completed)
- C12 EMC TEAM - Euro-Arabian Millitary Coalition (Philrow completed)

- C13 VOG TEAM - Vanguard Operations Group (Mattytoosack in progress)
- C13 RPX TEAM - Riamh Pax (WebCole in progress)
Is it shameful not to have completed a full campaign?
The short and full answer is no. Having stepped up to the plate is simply put brave. Because when doing so, you expose your self in so many ways, to everyone, while simultaneously, confront the most steep learning curve in the entire game.

Please understand this is not about who is best or not. Competition is not an issue here.

Both the CO and the SCO function, really is incredible difficult to master. It involves hundreds if not thousands of decisions to be made, throughout a single campaign. Hundreds of meetings, opinions, agreements, disagreements, expectations, frictions, ambitions, compromises, adjustments, initiatives and so forth.

This is about getting the numbers down and from there on, start to ask questions.


Why I decided to post my questions in this forum
I respectfully posted in the commander forums, since very few of the old commander players seems to visit the tournament site.

My hope is that at least some of the old players from those teams may remember who or how many commander players, was appointed to a specific team, during a specific campaign.

I hope you will help getting the numbers down, so we can start to ask questions based on data.


NOTE
this post will be edited as names or numbers are posted in the thread.
Please read Post 8 for updates on information needed!

Define irony. A bunch of guys playing PR year after year. A game teaching initiative as the prime mover.
However, in regard to EA, these guys never took the initiative.
We who play these kinds of games are the first generation of war robot pilots.Today we pilot a camera in 3D heaven,Tomorrow... http://gametactic.org/pr
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Old 2016-10-03, 13:55   #2
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You might also need to define what you mean by Commanders, as some of those functions changed as the PRT evolved.

In the modern PRT we have Supreme Commanders who are responsible for administration and management of the team, and Commanders who are responsible for the planning and execution of PRT matches. In the past I think those functions overlapped a lot more, and may not even have been separate roles.

In addition to that, last campaign (C11) I played the role of XO for MRF where I took up a number of responsibilities in support of both the SCO and CO including team admin, and in-game support for the CO and his decision making processes. Should XOs therefore have consideration within the framework of your question?

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- C9 NATO Alpha & Charlie Armies - North Atlantic Treaty Organization - Blufor (NATO Alpha CO: AgentMongoose)
- C9 Unified CATA Team - Central Asian Treaty Alliance - Opfor

...

- C11 PDI Team - Pacific Defense Initiative (SCO: Danger, CO: Hotfranc)
- C11 MRF Team - Mediterranean Response Force (SCO: Cossack, CO: Aleon)

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Old 2016-10-03, 14:12   #3
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Campaign 9 and 11:

Thanks Web_cole

Yes, of course, I should have defined the function as the tactical Team Commander.

The Supreme Commander, was if I recall correctly, introduced in Campaign 6 and the administrators, should I recall correctly, also asked us as tactical Team Commanders, about the idea, back in the last part of Campaign 5?

Quote:
- C11 PDI Team - Pacific Defense Initiative (SCO: Danger, CO: Hotfranc)
- C11 MRF Team - Mediterranean Response Force (SCO: Cossack, CO: Aleon)
Did all four complete the full campaign?

Quote:
- C9 NATO Alpha & Charlie Armies - North Atlantic Treaty Organization - Blufor (NATO Alpha CO: AgentMongoose)
Do you know if AgentMongoose complete the full campaign?

Define irony. A bunch of guys playing PR year after year. A game teaching initiative as the prime mover.
However, in regard to EA, these guys never took the initiative.
We who play these kinds of games are the first generation of war robot pilots.Today we pilot a camera in 3D heaven,Tomorrow... http://gametactic.org/pr
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Campaign 11:

It seems, from the tournament news, campaign 11, that

SCO: Cossack, CO: Aleon and SCO: Danger all completed a full campaign, right?

Define irony. A bunch of guys playing PR year after year. A game teaching initiative as the prime mover.
However, in regard to EA, these guys never took the initiative.
We who play these kinds of games are the first generation of war robot pilots.Today we pilot a camera in 3D heaven,Tomorrow... http://gametactic.org/pr
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Yeah, me, Aleon and Danger completed full campaign.

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Originally Posted by Michael_Denmark View Post
Did all four complete the full campaign?



Do you know if AgentMongoose complete the full campaign?
All of them did as far as I know, yes.

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Old 2016-10-03, 15:02   #7
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Campaign 10:

Okay then, Campaign 10, copy pasted from the tournament news, starting and ending SCOs and COs:

PAC
Both SCO Spook and CO Cruzmissile [PAC], seems to have completed the full campaign, right?

Quote:
Supreme Commanding Officer (SCO): Spook, Germany
Commanding Officer (CO): Cruzmissile, United States of America
EMF
SCO Norby [EMF] seem to have completed a full campaign?
CO Age [EMF], CO Danger [EMF] and CO Snipd [EMF] seem to have partly completed a campaign, right?
Quote:
Supreme Commanding Officer (SCO): Norby, Germany
Commanding Officer (CO): Snipd, United States of America
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Originally Posted by Cossack View Post
Yeah, me, Aleon and Danger completed full campaign.
Thanks for that information Cossack, much appreciated.

Define irony. A bunch of guys playing PR year after year. A game teaching initiative as the prime mover.
However, in regard to EA, these guys never took the initiative.
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Old 2016-10-03, 15:26   #8
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Some of the following player names found, was deployed after a search I made throughout the member list of the tournament. Other player names has now been added by people from the community. Many times it is important that an information has more than one source, so validation from others is important.

I attempt to thank everyone having helped with information.

Web_cole, DonDoom, Wicca, Murkey, Fnixer, L4gi, Alex L., HunterMed, Saobh, Outlawz, decoy.dk, PFunk, sweedensniiperr, Cossack, Sekh765, AgentMongoose, MaSSive, Yrkidding, H1tman, Woolfson, Danger_6, Hotfranc, Spook, DEDMON5811, Smeggles

***

INFORMATION WANTED


DEDMON5811, the first and only EJOD team CMDR, from campaign 1, and I found him October 26th, PM send to him and he replied on the same day, after having been offline the forums for a very long time.

DEDMON5811 completed the first campaign from start to end, thereby being the first commander player, having completed a camping in the tournament. So, with his PM, we now have response and information, from one of the first two commander players, in the great Project Reality Tournament. Awesome and Thank you again DEDMON5811!

The EJOD team, also being the first Opfor team, is to this day in 2016, the only team in the tournament having used the same name as a PR map.



CasualtyUR, I am so far unable to get in contact with him through the PM system and I do not have any other contact information, so if anyone from the community has such a contact, it will help the project a lot, to notify him on this tread. CasualtyUR has participated in at least 7 campaigns, from the start of the tournament and he stepped up to the plate as commander, helping a team once again, in campaign 10.

Maverick, is the PR player using the name "the.ultimate.maverick" ...after having gone through some of his threads today October 26th, I found the proof in the "USM" Thread, where he post on having run an ASOG training, in the Project Reality Tournament.

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USM
I've just run an ASOG (Project Reality Tournament) practice. It ran from about 2000GMT till 2330 GMT with about 30-35 guys there.
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f10.../7088-usm.html

Question then is if he has continued to call him self the.ultimate.maverick in other PR related places, clans end etc.

Afvalbak retired CATA CO, might have information on both the starting and mid campaigns, however, I am unable to get in contact with him, his PM inbox is full. If anyone here can get in contact with him, please tell him that his memory is needed.
Hitperson, he participated in the beginning campaigns and I do remember him too, however, not if he played as CO at some point, - help?
bonsai - Retired CATA SCO C7, did he complete the full campaign? Also CO in C7 and C9, please help with validated information?
Grayeknight NATO, did he not play both as CO and SCO in C6?, before being appointed to tournament lead?
Salah ad Din, CATA 1 CO, but in what campaign?
Khidr did play as CATA CO did he not? C6 or C7 perhaps? information needed?
I also remember a player with the name Clypp, did he play in the tournament as a CO? Before C5 that would be.
We need to find out if Alex L. resigned in campaign 6 or 7, because with that we will know when Casualty was NATO SCO, Grayknight perhaps NATO CO and SCO too. In post 11 a source describe the replacement that took place.
Fnixer - starting PDI CO (source PM October 4th and post 36, however, new source October 20th state Fnixer should be mentioned as an appointed CO having participated in a very short amount of time, no battle commanding included. The two reasons for mentioning Fnixer, are to [1] respecting he stepped up to the plate and [2] letting the community know he has been appointed by the tournament administration)
So it is most probably Hotfranc, having done most or all of the commanding, remember to watch the videos!
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Video links

HunterMed (some of the CATA teams)
https://www.youtube.com/user/hunterMi

Murkey (several tournament videoes)
https://www.youtube.com/user/gergmukey

Joseph Schlimmer (potential CATA 1 info on a battle CO)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_GAUKrlFEE

Official PRT tube channel
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZS...Jelu7VWANHFlHw

Gaz3447 (campaign 1)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCka...1Hj8V7scTetH2g

Project Reality - Chinese JDAM in PRT Extra Battle (0:48 a CATA 1 battle CO appears on screen)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4hM6V3ZLT4
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From campaign 1 to 3 the CO position was named CMDR

Campaign 1: 1 or 2 battles during the spring of 2006. Start date was 02-18-2006
UK_force - starting ARRC CMDR (source post 28 )
DEADMON5811 - starting and ending EJOD CMDR (source DEDMON5811 him self)
Gaz - Replacement ARRC CMDR for UK_Force until the end of the campaign (source post 28 )
Alex L. - possible replacement ARRC CMDR (Source PM October 24)
CasualtyUR might also have been playing as ARRC CO? (source PM PRT October 1

Maverick - possible replacement EJOD CMDR for DEADMON5811? (did I have a source for this? check out Saobh PMs?, but we do have a source now, a thread posted by the.ultimate.maverick on a scrim between EJOD and ARRC, here it is: https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f10...d-vs-arrc.html)


Campaign 2: at least 5 battles during the summer of 2006
Alex L. - starting and ending NODFOR CMDR (validated by primary source post 28 )
Maverick - starting ASOG CMDR (source PM October 10 2016 and Project Reality Tournament Forums - Powered by vBulletin )
Kravixon - replacement PELA CO after Maverick (source post 54)
H1tman - replacement PELA CO after Kravixon (source post 54)


Campaign 3: x battles during the fall of 2006
Alex L. - starting NARFOR CO? (source in post 28 )
Hitperson - replacement NARFOR CO (source Project Reality Tournament Forums - Powered by vBulletin)
Maverick - starting PELA CO? (source post 54)
Solitas - replacement PELA CO (we have two image sources to proof that: The first is where we find Solitas as an ordinary soldier in the bottom of the picture, just above the Administration-line. Note the date and the amount of players equal 782: Project Reality Tournament Forums - Powered by vBulletin, and the second image source, is where we see Solitas as CO. Again, note the date and the amount of players, this time being 813. Project Reality Tournament Forums - Powered by vBulletin)


Campaign 4: x battles during the winters of 2006 and 2007
Deg.0 - starting and possible ending RFAD CO (source post 28 and PM October 9 2016)
Hitperson - starting or replacement ARRC CO (image source Project Reality Tournament Forums - Powered by vBulletin)
CasualtyUR possible ARRC CO (source PRT PM October 18th)
Fullforce - starting ARRC CO?
casualtyUR - replacement ARRC CO?
*** I think we almost can rule Fullforce out as an ARRC CO, since the image source attached to Hitperson, clearly show Fullforce as an Admin. Need to send a PM to Fullforce. I wish CasualtyUR would reply my PM.


Campaign 5: 10 battles during the spring and summer of 2007
H1tman - starting and ending MEDI CO - (validated by primary source in post 54 and in image source (source Project Reality Tournament Forums - Powered by vBulletin))
Michael_Denmark - starting and ending PELA CO (source Project Reality Tournament Forums - Powered by vBulletin)
CasualtyUR - starting and possible ending USEF CO ( source Project Reality Tournament Forums - Powered by vBulletin
NiGHTWolf - Starting BCST CO (source Project Reality Tournament Forums - Powered by vBulletin)
Solitas - replacement BCST CO for NiGHTWolf (source PM October 10 2016 and source PM October the 4 and image source Project Reality Tournament Forums - Powered by vBulletin)
GrayeKnight - replacement BCST CO for Solitas (source Project Reality Tournament Forums - Powered by vBulletin)


Maybe we got campaign 5 covered now? Seems Casualty, I and H1tman completed. Structure wise not a bad result, the enlargement of the tournament structure, taking into account.


Campaign 6: 10 battles during the winter of 2007 to the start of summer 2008
CasualtyUR - starting or replacement NATO SCO (source in PM October the 18 and source in post 11)
H1tman - starting and ending CATA 1 CO (validated by primary source in post 54)
H1tman - possible starting end ending CATA SCO (source my CATA 2 PM, the 2008 CATA COs and admin meeting)
Grayeknight - possible starting NATO SCO (source post 11)
CasualtyUR - starting and possible ending NATO 1 CO (source PM October the 18th)
Mars - starting NATO 2 CO (source PM October the 4 and the 18th)
Noobofthenight - replacement NATO 2 CO for Mars (source PM October the 4th and the 18th)
Eddiereyes - replacement NATO 2 CO for Noobofthenight and also ending NATO CO (source PM October the 4th and the 18th)
Michael_Denmark - starting CATA 2 CO (source my self)
Bonsai - replacement CATA 2 CO (source my self)


Campaign 7: at least 7 battles during the fall of 2008 to the spring of 2009 (start November 15)
(source https://web.archive.org/web/20081122....com/index.php)
Eddiereyes - starting or replacement NATO SCO (source post 43) (PM send)
CasualtyUR - possible NATO SCO (source post 55)
CasualtyUR starting and possible ending NATO 1 CO (source post 55)
Eddiereyes - starting NATO 2 CO including the first four battles (source PM October the 4th and PM November 2nd)
Smeggles - replacement NATO 2 CO after Eddiereyes and also ending NATO 2 CO ((source post 55 and PM November 2nd)
Farks - NATO 1 CO (battle 3 on Barracuda validated but how many battles and was he the starting NATO CO) (PM send)

Bonsai - starting CATA 2 SCO (source my PM 2008 when Bonsai explain about campaign 6 battles)
Bonsai or Aquiller starting CATA 2 CO? (source my PM 2008 when Bonsai explain about campaign 6 battles)
H1tman - starting CATA 1 CO until team got banned (validated by primary source in post 54)
Aquiller - re-starting and re-creating CATA 1 CO after former team got banned
Aquiller - starting and ending the new CATA 1 SCO
HunterMed - replacement CATA 2 CO after Aquiller (validated by primary source in PM October 10 2016)
Jigsaw - NATO CO in C7, C8?
Scot - NATO CO in C7, C8?


NATO CO in C7 - maybe not appointed CO. Perhaps a deal with Eddiereyes to play as battle CO
Funk - NATO CO in C7, C8?
Tirak - NATO CO in C7, C8? (PM send)

Afvalbak - CATA 2 CO (who took over after Bonsai? because Hunter was the ending CATA 2 CO, after he replaced Aquiller. But did Aquiller then replace Bonsai as starting on CATA 2? (source from Bonsai PM August 2008, just after he got appointed as the starting CATA 2 CO and CATA SCO too)


Campaign 8: 7 battles during late summer of 2009 and perhaps to late winter or the spring of 2010
Source for campaign 8 start: Campaign 8 signups open Aug 22nd
Source for campaign 8 end: Lost Platoon
Aquiller - starting CATA SCO
Aquiller - starting CATA CO
L4gi - CATA SC (which CATA team?)
Afvalbak - Seems he completed the entire campaign for which CATA team?
Orthas - Ending CATA 2 CO (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGhQ8VhnFfA)
Jigsaw - Starting NATO CO (source post 55)
PFunk - starting and ending NATO Bravo CO (validated by primary source in post 55)
Eddiereyes - starting NATO SCO (source post 55)
Colonelcool - replacement NATO SCO after Eddiereyes (source post 55)
PFunk - ending replacement NATO SCO after Colonelcool (source post 55)
cfschris starting NATO but resigning before first battle (source post 63 and also the image source proofing he was appointed https://web.archive.org/web/20090830...ealitymod.com/)


Campaign 8.5: 6-7 battles during the spring of 2010
P*Funk - starting and ending NATO SCO (source post 57)
Orthas - starting CATA SCO and possible ending too (source post 57, post 59, PM October 21 )
Bonsai - possible starting and ending CATA CO (source post 30, PM October 21)
Who was then the NATO CO?

1. Yamalia: the CATA rush in helicopters on NATO 2nd capable flag
2. Qwai River
3. Beirut: where NATO grayed CATAs last flag but failed to capture it
4. Quinling
5. Fools Road
6. Muttrah
7. Siege at Ochamchira is said to be played (source post ..)

Source (Post 27, post 30 and in post 57 Web_cole as source, list 6 battles almost identical to the announced battles from the tournament news, also talking about a 7th battle that may not have occurred, since it has no following result)



Campaign 9: 10 battles during 2010-1011
Orthas - starting and possible ending CATA SCO (image source September 13th 2010, Project Reality Tournament and image source from 2nd Sign Ups C9: Project Reality Tournament)

Bonsai - starting CATA CO (image source September 13th 2010 from campaign start, Project Reality Tournament, and image source from battle 3, March 4 2011, where we see Bonsai as an ordinary soldier in the right side of the screen: Project Reality Tournament. Then again, at the third image source, from March the 30, we see the close down of campaign 9, where the administration gives thanks to among the others, also Bonsai: Project Reality Tournament - So, Bonsai may have completed the campaign anyhow, ...what happened?)

P*Funk - starting NATO SCO for both NATO Alpha and Charlie teams (validated by primary source in post 55 and for the start of the campaign also supported by image source September 13 2010, Project Reality Tournament)

P*Funk - starting and ending NATO Charlie CO (primary source post 55)

AgentMongoose - starting and possible ending NATO Alpha CO (source post 2) CO-Commander was Sekh (sources post 22 and 29 and also this video NATO C9b4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=6u5ywIRu-nY)


Campaign 10: 10 battles during 2014-2015
Spook - starting and ending PAC SCO (source PRT Campaign 10 - Final Sitrep #13 - winner announcement)
Norby - starting and ending EMF SCO (source PRT Campaign 10 - Final Sitrep #13 - winner announcement and post 14)
Cruzmissile - starting and ending PAC CO (source PRT Campaign 10 - Final Sitrep #13 - winner announcement)
Snipd starting EMF CO (source post 36)
ElMariachi replacement EMF CO for Snipd (source post 36)
Agemman replacement EMF CO for ElMariachi (source PRT Campaign 10 - Final Sitrep #13 - winner announcement
CasualtyUR replacement EMF CO for Agemman (source post 36)
Danger_6 replacement EMF CO for CasualtyUR and ending CO for the EMF team (source post 36)


Campaign 11: 10 battles during 2015-2016
Danger_6 - starting and ending PDI SCO (source post 5)
Cossack - starting and ending MRF SCO (source post 5)
Aleon - starting and ending MRF CO (source post 5 and other public sources)
Hotfranc - structural wise not the starting PDI CO, he replaced Fnixer who was the starting PDI CO, but because Fnixer had only been in command for a very short amount of time, Hotfranc was practical speaking, the starting PDI CO, participating in both the preparation battles, on Operation Marlin and on Burning Sands, plus X of the campaign battles as well, making Hotfranc the ending PDI CO too. (post 36 and PM source October 20th, and the following video sources from C11:

PR Tournament C11 - Operation Marlin Prepbattle #1 [Hotfranc as CO]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJx2...FfAcGrusEP-ae2

PR Tournament - Burning Sands Prepbattle #2 [Hotfranc as CO]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1O1SJN18Xo

PR Tournament C11 - Nuijamaa [Senshi as CO?]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmMF...r-_5k-cNpGEoYj


Campaign 12 - 6* battles during 2016-2017
Yrkidding - starting and ending APN SCO
ytman - starting and ending APN CO
Philrow - starting and ending EMC SCO
Senshi - starting and ending EMC CO

*the administration under Onil had planned the campaign to last 8 battles, however, an integrated point system, did not allow for more than six battles to be fought. EMC as victor of the campaign, winning on points after battle 6.

Campaign 13 - 2017
Mattytoosack - starting VOG SCO
CAS_ual_TY - starting VOG CO
WebCole - starting RPX SCO
PeppeJ - sstarting RPX CO


we will only post the names from the current campaign in this draft post, until the campaign is over. Hereafter they will be deployed in post 1.
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Info on amount of work involved in the list so far:

1. Asking the Tournament Administration for access to the archives - my request was denied.
2. From Tournament Admin Onils advice, I started searching the tournament member list for people who had been mentioned as either CO or SCO. The search gave me some 15-20 player names and I indirectly learned, that a certain amount of the Admins also had been playing as either CO or SCO, although their profile does not mention it?
3. After my initial search through the tournament member list, I started a PM and Email operation, counting until today, between 50 to 100 PMs and emails. That is a minimum of 50-60 send, and an unknown amount replied. I have not counted the replied yet.
4. Created a thread in the commander forum, on the PR main site. Against my expectations, it rapidly got a lot of views and response. Glad for that - big time, boosting my dedication quite a bit.
5. From all the correspondence I learned that at least some people mentioned youtube videos as potential sources, so I started to search for videos and that proofed to be a useful source.
6. Asking the Tournament Administration to expand my PM inbox - my request was granted.
7. Sending out befriend to every CO and SCO player from the tournament, plus a few public COs too. Much more easy if I have their profiles listed. Besides commander players should befriend each other, why haven't I thought about that before, Jesus Christ 10 years has gone, how slow minded can I possible be - LOL?
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Thoughts on my mistakes I so far have noticed my self:

First of all, I should have made a default formula, for people to fill out. That would have made both the personal interactions and the data collection, more easy to develop. I dont think the formula would have been an obstacle for some of the more difficult conversations I have run into, because with it, there would always have been the option to fall back on it, and restart an otherwise loaded dialogue.

Secondly, I should have created a deeper definition of the two completion statuses, I decided to make use of. Being, Completed and Partly Completed. So for the future result list, I now think a deeper definition should be considered. That way, we ensure every single person having stepped up to the plate, gets noticed by the community. I will post on it in the thread and ask for suggestions too. In fact, I should probably have asked for suggestions from the start.

Thirdly, when facing situations, where conflict of acknowledgment exists, and they do more than I had thought of, before I started up this project, I should have initiated a debate on the issue, with the people in the thread, before starting to contact anyone. Should probably have asked questions like; a) when two or more guys wants to be credited for the volume of work involved, in this CO/SCO dynamic, how to 1) approach that in the first place, and 2) should it be left out of the data collection, in order not to stir things up?

Fourthly, regarding the video sources on the battles, I should have prepared my self, by creating a dedicated thread for all of them, which everyone reading the thread, could use to confirm related statements and lack of memory.
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Listing the players having been appointed only, or also played as SCO and or CO
  1. UK_force
  2. DEDMON5811
  3. Gaz
  4. Maverick (apparently banned in 2006, but his profile still exist, he used the PR player name, the.ultimate.maverick)
  5. Casualty
  6. Alex L.
  7. H1tman
  8. Kravixon
  9. Hitperson
  10. Solitas
  11. Deg.0
  12. Fullforce
  13. NiGHTWolf
  14. GrayeKnight
  15. Mars
  16. Noobofthenight
  17. Eddiereyes
  18. Michael_Denmark
  19. Bonsai
  20. HunterMed
  21. Aquiller
  22. L4gi
  23. Farks
  24. Jigsaw
  25. cfschris (appointed as starting CO but resigning before the first real battle)
  26. Scot
  27. Smeg
  28. P*Funk
  29. Tirak
  30. Afvalbak
  31. Orthas
  32. Colonelcool
  33. AgentMongoose
  34. Spook
  35. Norby
  36. Cruzmissile
  37. Snipd
  38. ElMariachi
  39. Agemman
  40. Danger_6
  41. Cossack
  42. Aleon
  43. Fnixer (appointed as starting CO but resigning before the first preparation battle)
  44. Hotfranc
  45. Yrkidding
  46. ytman
  47. Philrow
  48. Senshi
  49. Mattytoosack
  50. CAS_ual_TY
  51. WebCole
  52. PeppeJ
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Quotes and links to threads and posts, related to info on why a team or campaign failed to deliver a commander not completing from start to end. No chronological order deployed:
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02-12-2007, 02:41 AM
PR Tourney Vets Call to Arms!
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f82...ll-arms-2.html

post 16
Quote:
[R-MOD]Mongolian_dude
Im in.
Im porbly going ARRC wih all the changes to air power.
Also, you bloody bastardos who deserted the ARRC in C4
You'd better be comming back to ARRC. Thats right, Squidy, Rank, Wormeaten, Blind, Powder you are all commin ARRC wether you like it or not. Even though C3 was legendary for being the worst Campainge. Man, you thought that C4 lost alot of players? In C3, on Shongua stalemate only 13 PLA showed up lol.
C5 is gonna kick anus.


...mongol...
post 36
Quote:
TII
Is Maverick still around? He was a good commander...
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11-14-2006, 07:52 PM
PR Official Tournament - Signups are now OPEN.
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f82...-now-open.html
Quote:
Alex L.
The tournament will last for 5 to 7 matches, which are placed in a 2-week battlecycle. Matches are big (1 map with 900-1000 tickets) and usually last 1,5 to 2,5 hours, every other Saturday. Team trainings will be announced by the commanders. With 5 matches, that will place the end of the tournament roughly in February 2007. The first match is Saturday the 25th of November; 10 days from the day this post is written.

Tournament matches will be hosted on gloryhound servers, during which time the public server will be dissengaged in order to diminish lag issues.

The tourmanent is considered to be the teamwork experience in the community. Teams are very tighly organised to provide the most realistic experience possible. Previous succesful team commanders include battle-experienced leaders such as UK_Force, Wraith and Gaz, who serve on the R-DEV team today.

I can wholeheartedly reccomend joining one of the teams (US/Brit vs MEC/Insurgents) to participate in this unique experience; its heaps of fun and will let you experience the new 0.4 release from a whole new perspective - that of extensive teamwork and professionality. Its great for noobs to learn some new skils, too.
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09-15-2006, 11:04 AM
Ideas around the commander posistion
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f83...tml#post173210
Quote:
[BiM]Black7
RainnMan is a nice commander.. ppl need to learn from him
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Define irony. A bunch of guys playing PR year after year. A game teaching initiative as the prime mover.
However, in regard to EA, these guys never took the initiative.
We who play these kinds of games are the first generation of war robot pilots.Today we pilot a camera in 3D heaven,Tomorrow... http://gametactic.org/pr
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All of them did as far as I know, yes.
Web, I found you on the tournament site too, so question is, if the XO function is equivalent to the old CO function?

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Define irony. A bunch of guys playing PR year after year. A game teaching initiative as the prime mover.
However, in regard to EA, these guys never took the initiative.
We who play these kinds of games are the first generation of war robot pilots.Today we pilot a camera in 3D heaven,Tomorrow... http://gametactic.org/pr
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Web, I found you on the tournament site too, so question is, if the XO function is equivalent to the old CO function?

WebCole - Retired MRF XO
No, not really. The XO is to the SCO and/or CO, what the NCO is to the Squad Leader. And like how every tournament squad has a different dynamic in how they operate, I'm sure the same can said for the "top three" in any team.

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P*Funk - Retired NATO CO (Was this also campaign 7 and did he also go SCO at some point?)
P*Funk completed C9 as the SCO of NATO. He probably also had CO responsibilities for NATO Charlie during C9, and I believe he was promoted to SCO/CO at some point during C8, but I'm less clear on those last two points.

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