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Old 2019-01-08, 05:54   #1
waldov

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Lightbulb MEC alternative weapons loadout

I'm going too say it, MEC could really do with an alternate, more AK/Soviet orientated infantry load-out. They already have the woodland camo but fighting out the Syrian civil war with scoped G3's and MG3's galore just feels really immersion breaking. Don't get me wrong either im not demanding it, I'll be willing to make the changes myself with a bit of guidance in the right direction (I've changed kit load-outs in BF2 waaay back before if that helps).

An alternate MEC loadout could also offer a fresh change for a number of current maps, namely ones where replacing the scoped G3 wouldn't be balance altering too much or where the MEC is meant to represent more second line type units.
Off the top of my head: Gaza AAS ALT (urban and close), Asad Khal AAS ALT (another tight close range map), Bijar canyons AAS (theres no scopes anyway), Jabal al Burj AAS ALT (in place of FSA). It could also give a more suitable variation for those daring enough to use the MEC as an Insurgent/Asymmetric opponent.

So what steps do I need to make to get this happening, or is there a legitimate reason why I shouldn't? Just too clarify im just talking about giving the MEC alternative equipment loadouts of weapons that already exist in game, nothing far fetched or overly optimistic before I get shot down for another "what if" faction pipe dream.




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Old 2019-01-08, 16:36   #2
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They are fictional. There is no MEC irl. So the immersion break therealready, and they could have any rifle. But a unscoped variant of the factiion like there is marines and us army unscoped would be epic.

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Old 2019-01-08, 16:58   #3
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Added ironsight variants of MEC and IDF factions for usage on maps where they face one another.
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Old 2019-01-08, 17:05   #4
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I was theorycrafting in my head a bit, and while I overall like the proposal of a MEC sub-faction, I heavily, heavily despise giving yet another faction AKs. While it maybe more realistic overall, we already do have a faction that uses Russian vehicles in conjection with Russian small arms. Actually, we have two that do. I don't see the point in doing this, there really isn't one.

I thus propose an alternative: Looking at it, is basically "outdated" German small arms in conjunction with Russian vehicles. Why update the small arms portion to a more modern loadout of NATO rifles, which are better suited for CQB than the G3 would be and leave the vehicles Russian?

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Old 2019-01-08, 23:29   #5
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There is the Syrian army in the pipeline that is intended for these Syrian maps. They will have an assortment of ak rifles instead of the g3.
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=127720

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Old 2019-01-09, 05:23   #6
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I already know that, the idea was to spice the MEC up from just having to stick with G3's and MG3's, only in a few maps anyway. Mec is probably the most played conventional OPFOR faction next too the Russians in so any variation is a godsend in my book.

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There is the Syrian army in the pipeline that is intended for these Syrian maps. They will have an assortment of ak rifles instead of the g3.
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=127720
That sounds awesome but this was over 4 years ago, is their actually any confirmation thats actually happening?

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Old 2019-01-09, 08:36   #7
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I'm all up for alternate weapons but WHY THE AKS? Use something more fun instead

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Old 2019-01-09, 12:24   #8
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That sounds awesome but this was over 4 years ago, is their actually any confirmation thats actually happening?
The way this works is that it's going to happen unless they confirm it isn't. So for all intents and purposes, the SAA faction is still coming eventually.


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Old 2019-01-09, 12:58   #9
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The way this works is that it's going to happen unless they confirm it isn't. So for all intents and purposes, the SAA faction is still coming eventually.
This basically.

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Old 2019-01-09, 13:48   #10
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I actually like G3 (and MG3) and want them to stay, though I see many people complaining about them. If anything needs a change, it could be the scope with possible back up sights. Could also try HK33 because it's pretty similiar.

Anyway, there's not many good alternatives for that weapon. Middle East Coalition is a fictional faction and is supposedly made of only arab and/or muslim nations. Currently the countries considered as MEC members are Iraq (maps like Kashan, Khami), Syria(Sbeneh, Bijar(?)) Afghanistan(Shahadah, Bamyan) and Iran (because of US tensions, common vehicles and weapons). But if we treat whole middle east countries as one, united military coalition, then it could also be Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Kuwait, Jordan, Yemen, Oman, Lebanon and even Pakistan and Egypt. (plus free palestine eggz dee)

With these countries included there are still only few alternatives - that being not AK or AR. So, there are few weapons in use in larger quantities that are somewhat different.

Oman uses INSAS, but oman is a small +only they use that rifle in that area.
Saudi Arabian army uses Steyr Aug as their main rifle and national guard recieved 55000 FN F2000
Kh2002 or Fateh rifle, though not in use, but could be primary weapon for whole MEC since it is fictional anyways and Iran is now connsidered the biggest boogeyman of the middle east
And there's HK33 which is evolution of G3 and could fit if we want to consider the fact, that MEC isn't stuck in the 90's, then HK33, Kh2002 or Fateh which is a big question are the best options.

That being said, G3 is still amongst most popular guns there such as AK and AR. IMO MEC is just a good placeholder faction for maps meant for possible future middle east factions and since it's fictional - sticking to real life counterpart is weird goal to say the least. What is also an option is making few different loadouds featuring different weapons, but sticking to current uniforms and vehicles. But if i follow the mood correctly - there's demand for something else than AK and M16/M4, so there has to be some flexibility in that regard.
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