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Old 2015-06-16, 02:36   #11
[R-DEV]​Airsoft
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Default Re: Animation & Rate of fire - why BluFor weapons are op

Lay off the personal attacks or this discussion is over.

Higher ROF guns do have less recoil in full auto in PR. You will see the recoil between for every shot in semi vs full auto is a different difference. The firing animation for the next round cancels out the previous round, similar to when you try to reload and immediately go prone. This is an engine limitation, not much we can do without changing full auto values to unrealistic numbers.


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Old 2015-06-16, 02:38   #12
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Somebody open a window its getting heated in here :0
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Old 2015-06-16, 02:53   #13
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Lay off the personal attacks or this discussion is over.

Higher ROF guns do have less recoil in full auto in PR. You will see the recoil between for every shot in semi vs full auto is a different difference. The firing animation for the next round cancels out the previous round, similar to when you try to reload and immediately go prone. This is an engine limitation, not much we can do without changing full auto values to unrealistic numbers.
That's what I have been suggesting: to shorten recoil animation so it feels more "sharp"(as intended with guns that have shortstroke piston system...etc.).

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After swapping around animations; I found out that AK-74 tends to cause gun to immediately start drifting left/right while L85 or Galil ironsight zoom_fire(firing while aiming down sight) animation tends to keep the first few rounds going up instead.
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Old 2018-04-23, 12:22   #14
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Lay off the personal attacks or this discussion is over.

Higher ROF guns do have less recoil in full auto in PR. You will see the recoil between for every shot in semi vs full auto is a different difference. The firing animation for the next round cancels out the previous round, similar to when you try to reload and immediately go prone. This is an engine limitation, not much we can do without changing full auto values to unrealistic numbers.
This has always been my main gripe with PR. However, playing with the semi-auto rifles (SLR, M14) I noticed that the semi-auto shooting feels much more "on point". The carbines and rifles that are capable of fully automatic fire somehow seem to lose this trait and the recoil seem much harsher, so much so that auto is almost preferable.

I do understand the argument of using auto up close and single at longer range but single fire still feels under-powered when engaging in CQB. Quick taps with single fire should be a viable alternative. From my own experience shooting an AK equivalent in 7.62 x 39, it was always preferable to "get behind" the gun and tap multiple shots on target than switching over to automatic fire.

I understand if this is an issue that cannot be fixed, but I would appreciate confirmation if that is the case.
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Old 2018-04-23, 17:42   #15
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Default Re: Animation & Rate of fire - why BluFor weapons are op

You're replying to a post from 2015.

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Old 2018-04-23, 18:13   #16
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You can balance stuff out(900 RPM compared to 600 RPM compared to 450 RPM).
You can make semi more viable, too.

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Old 2018-04-23, 22:14   #17
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You can balance stuff out(900 RPM compared to 600 RPM compared to 450 RPM).
You can make semi more viable, too.
You're implying that it is doable rather than I ought to do it it, I hope.
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