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Breaking the seat limit
Posted in: Coding
Posted 2020-09-26 at 19:08 by Mats391

The seat limit of 8 players per vehicle was assumed to be hardcoded for a long time. However, it turns out that it just never got really tested properly. After looking at the code and giving it a test, we found out that the real hardcoded limit is 10 players per vehicle. Those who already read the v1.6.3 update highlight will know that we broke that too and this DEV Blog will talk about some of the challenges that we had.

The first big issue and main reason why the seat limit was assumed to be hardcoded, was the control binding. Normal BF2 only has controls for switching to seats 1 to 8, but if those 8 seats were filled, you would enter the normally unreachable seats. While that would work for normal gameplay, it would make testing seats nearly impossible. With v1.6 we added new server side capabilities to hook and interact with the engine through Python code. [R-DEV]AlonTavor used these to change the F8 key binding to cycle you to the next open seat instead of switching to seat 8. This will only work on dedicated servers.

Next up was COOP. The AI module does not like any vehicle with more than 8 seats and crashes instantly on map load. This could have been avoided by creating copies of every vehicle for coop mode. Luckily the crash was fixable through some binary editing, so coop players can enjoy the same amount of seats as everyone else.

With these two issues out of the way, BF2 would support up to 10 seats per vehicle without any further changes. The limit of 10 comes from the client side HUD showing the seat positions and names of players in the vehicle. The code for that has no out of bounds check and would start accessing part of the memory it should not touch which results in a crash. Even if the seats would not show up on the HUD, it would still result in a crash. We fixed this by injecting an overflow protection through the Launcher. However this also means the normal HUD will not work for any seat above 10.

That brings us to the next step: Making a nicer HUD for used seats. While non-essential for this to work, it ties everything together. As the BF2 HUD only supports 10 seats, we started making our own HUD that gets controlled by the Launcher. For that we count the amount of currently occupied seats that do not have a seat dot in the HUD and show this number as the passenger counter in the bottom left. We decided to use this counter even for vehicles that do not go past 10 seats to ensure consistency and easy recognition across all vehicles. As such only the vehicle crew gets position dots for their seats. The crew is roughly defined as pilot/driver, co-pilot/co-driver and any gunner.

At last the only thing left to to do was to go through all our vehicles, figure out how many seats it should have and then add them. Since some vehicle got created with the assumption that there would never be more than 8 seats, we even had to change some vehicle models to add more.

Passenger numbers in v1.6.3(in game values may have changed since list got updated):

Land vehicles:

Air vehicles:

Sea vehicles:
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    CmndrFello's Avatar
    Amazing work! very nice to hear this kind of achievement!
    Can't wait to see how it plays out in gameplay
    Posted 2020-09-26 at 19:38 by CmndrFello CmndrFello is offline
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    Filamu's Avatar
    That is just fantastic! It is gonna change quite a few things, and no leaving people behind.
    If it wouldn't be too weird I would for gameplay sake up the +7 man apcs to 8 just to avoid the old chopper issue.
    Posted 2020-09-26 at 19:56 by Filamu Filamu is offline
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    Would this mean that squads could have 9 people now, given that transporting 8+ is no longer a problem?
    Posted 2020-09-26 at 21:02 by Aleon Aleon is offline
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    PatrickLA_CA's Avatar
    Can't wait for those 29 Chinook kills
    Posted 2020-09-26 at 21:32 by PatrickLA_CA PatrickLA_CA is offline
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    sweedensniiperr's Avatar
    I gotta be honest. I wasn't that surprised by this. When you broke the 64+ player limit i knew in my mind that you could do anything really(given enough time).
    Posted 2020-09-26 at 22:05 by sweedensniiperr sweedensniiperr is offline
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    I'm pretty sure CV90 holds 8 dismounts, not 7.
    Posted 2020-09-26 at 22:08 by VTRaptor VTRaptor is offline
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    manh21's Avatar
    Nice work
    Posted 2020-09-26 at 22:22 by manh21 manh21 is offline
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    Mats391's Avatar
    Originally Posted by Filamu View Comment
    If it wouldn't be too weird I would for gameplay sake up the +7 man apcs to 8 just to avoid the old chopper issue.
    That is something we thought about, but decided against it as we decided to go as close as possible to real life capacities. Also there are still some APCs that only fit 6, those would have to updated or where should we draw the line? Some APCs even only fit 4. Last but not least, some of them hardly even fit the 7 inside so there simply would be no room for the 8th
    Posted 2020-09-27 at 07:51 by Mats391 Mats391 is offline
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    SemlerPDX's Avatar
    Well done!
    Posted 2020-09-27 at 17:28 by SemlerPDX SemlerPDX is offline
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    Wow this is really awesome, good work!
    Posted 2020-09-27 at 20:27 by schakal811 schakal811 is offline

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