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bosco_
2010-08-21, 21:41
With the introduction of adjustable Grenadier sights, a short explanation in video form might not hurt.

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Combined effort by [R-DEV]Mosquill & [R-DEV]Chuc

jbgeezer
2010-08-21, 21:43
Nice! Looking forward to using this! :D

Rezza
2010-08-21, 21:46
I love it i love y....

Zoddom
2010-08-21, 21:49
finally some realtime arty :)

=Romagnolo=
2010-08-21, 21:50
Nice.

But nothing about the dual sights ? I mean, you can use scope and ironsight in the same weapon.

Adriaan
2010-08-21, 21:51
Nice indeed! It looks very smooth and polished!

Farks
2010-08-21, 21:52
We gonna kill shizzle with this!

Tim270
2010-08-21, 21:53
Im going to miss the free-aim.

However, this is visually and functionally a huge improvement. Well done :)

H.sta
2010-08-21, 22:03
hmm, it says 0.95

now i am wondering wether the next release will be called 0.95 instead of 0.92 or if we have to wait a while before getting our hands on this fine pice of coding

rampo
2010-08-21, 22:04
let the noob-toobin' begin....

spawncaptain
2010-08-21, 22:06
M4 with EOTECH!!!11111

DankE_SPB
2010-08-21, 22:07
hmm, it says 0.95
now i am wondering wether the next release will be called 0.95 instead of 0.92 or if we have to wait a while before getting our hands on this fine pice of coding

next release is 0.95

let the noob-toobin' begin....
yeah, because current system is so damn hard:roll:

bosco_
2010-08-21, 22:08
Nice.

But nothing about the dual sights ? I mean, you can use scope and ironsight in the same weapon.

Won't make it into 0.95, unfortunately. Although that is known for quite some time now. :p


hmm, it says 0.95

now i am wondering wether the next release will be called 0.95 instead of 0.92 or if we have to wait a while before getting our hands on this fine pice of coding

See above. ;p

Jimbow
2010-08-21, 22:30
Looks awesome cant wait

Gosu-Rizzle
2010-08-21, 22:33
Looks great! Though the most impressive thing about this vid is how many different scopes/weapons we have :-D

Archer[NX-01]
2010-08-21, 22:36
looks great! keep up the good work guys! :D

Hotrod525
2010-08-21, 22:47
Yeah, now i just hope 0.95 wont be too long :P i can't wait to get my hands on it =D

karambaitos
2010-08-21, 22:55
Nice.

But nothing about the dual sights ? I mean, you can use scope and ironsight in the same weapon.

NOOOO ANYTHING but that the reddot sights will lose their leetnes, and what about countries that dont have backup sights on all their weapons (Russia China)

i foresee lots of SL grenadiers going around thinking they are leet when the patch is released xD

Moonlight
2010-08-21, 23:08
Actually grenadiers are already leet. :)
I simply love those animations!
And is that a Zeiss red dot on that g3? MECs are getting brand new sights for their rifles!

John-117
2010-08-21, 23:16
What is that incredible sexy sight on the first gun?

Moonlight
2010-08-21, 23:20
^
That's a ZF 3x4° dual optical sight on G36A1

Nagard
2010-08-21, 23:22
Sweet mother of god... This is simply nice!!!

Vision_16
2010-08-22, 00:10
I spy a EOTech and another new sight on the G3 :p

Bellator
2010-08-22, 00:21
I for one wouldn't like for the MEC to get any lEETxor optics. I always thought of them as a sort of a "budget" army.

Daishi2442
2010-08-22, 00:26
Absolutely epic. Portable artillery in your hand, if you have the small amount of brainpower needed to use it.

Zulnex
2010-08-22, 00:40
Truly awesome.8-)

13DarkWolf
2010-08-22, 00:48
wait was that an acog on the l86a2???

If so SWEET! Thanks for bringing the British Weapons up to date :p
looks sexy guys well done

Liquid_Cow
2010-08-22, 01:19
Is this going to be a true range sighting or will it be relative like the current sight based on user's screen resolution?

][nvert
2010-08-22, 01:29
New system, new sights, new weapons. Great Job keep it up :D

ZephyrDark
2010-08-22, 01:36
Is it me or do some UGLs have longer range settings on them. Like the GP-25 has max of 400m when the M203 has 250m max. Is it because of the scopes and the way they're aimed? Or is it Asymmetrical warfare stuffs again.

splatters
2010-08-22, 02:02
this is sexy!

GeorgRavioli
2010-08-22, 02:30
Looks great! Though the most impressive thing about this vid is how many different scopes/weapons we have :-D

Agreed. I saw M16A1 with M203, C7A2, L85A2's new skin, G3A3 with that strange German Red dot, M4 with EOTech, and my favorite, AK-47 + GP-25 with that smooth receiver cover. Looks like the Milled receiver Type 56 rifles.

martinhjerpe
2010-08-22, 02:32
hmm, it says 0.95

now i am wondering wether the next release will be called 0.95 instead of 0.92 or if we have to wait a while before getting our hands on this fine pice of coding

I was wondering the same thing, and there's other 0.95 stuff too so I really hope it all will be in the next version because i can't wait for these things either.

*EDIT* I read the reply "Next version is 0.95". This makes me happy:D

Rawhide
2010-08-22, 03:25
Holy ****!

richyrich55
2010-08-22, 03:26
wait was that an acog on the l86a2???

If so SWEET! Thanks for bringing the British Weapons up to date :p
looks sexy guys well done


Trijicon ACOG.

Conman51
2010-08-22, 03:32
BF2 aint got SHIT on PR!!!!

school them with their own engine!:D

Nice work!!!

GeorgRavioli
2010-08-22, 03:38
BF2 aint got SHIT on PR!!!!

school them with their own engine!:D

Nice work!!!

Ahaha so true. It's like what Heckler & Koch did to the M4/M16.

Nebsif
2010-08-22, 04:02
NOOOO ANYTHING but that the reddot sights will lose their leetnes, and what about countries that dont have backup sights on all their weapons (Russia China)

i foresee lots of SL grenadiers going around thinking they are leet when the patch is released xD

U can always look below the scope on AKs and use the iron sights (IRL), that the whole point of that scope mount.

And imo the current system is just as easy, but not as accurate.

Spartan0189
2010-08-22, 04:08
Sweet, no more guessing :D (Although, I spent time learning it)

Also, epic display of weapons too :P

lucky.BOY
2010-08-22, 08:02
very nice, good work lads! I didnt know that russians actually do have backup sights on all of their weapons irl, as nebsif has said...

Saarna
2010-08-22, 08:17
I didnt know that russians actually do have backup sights on all of their weapons irl, as nebsif has said...

Not really backup, since you'd be using the rifle's own iron sights.

bosco_
2010-08-22, 09:31
Is this going to be a true range sighting or will it be relative like the current sight based on user's screen resolution?

True ingame range.

wait was that an acog on the l86a2???

If so SWEET! Thanks for bringing the British Weapons up to date :p
looks sexy guys well done

You may like this (http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm115/Pride10101/RenderB-1.jpg) too.

Is it me or do some UGLs have longer range settings on them. Like the GP-25 has max of 400m when the M203 has 250m max. Is it because of the scopes and the way they're aimed? Or is it Asymmetrical warfare stuffs again.

The sights reflect their real counterparts, but nothing stops you from using the 203 on ranges past 250m, you just have to account for the +.

Spaz
2010-08-22, 09:54
I for one wouldn't like for the MEC to get any lEETxor optics. I always thought of them as a sort of a "budget" army.

Yeah that's why they use cheap old equipment like the Havoc and T-90. ;)

Excavus
2010-08-22, 09:56
Yeah that's why they use cheap old equipment like the Havoc and T-90. ;)

They use a Havoc, but I don't think they use a T-90.

Amok@ndy
2010-08-22, 10:00
MEC MBT is a T72

DankE_SPB
2010-08-22, 10:01
I for one wouldn't like for the MEC to get any lEETxor optics. I always thought of them as a sort of a "budget" army.
The opposite - ME army with tonns of money.

They use a Havoc, but I don't think they use a T-90.
Current T-72 is a placeholder for pimped out M1M version of it, which is pretty much on par with T-90.

Elektro
2010-08-22, 10:01
I :33_love: Devs

Arnoldio
2010-08-22, 10:29
Siiik man siiik!

Sgt.Heine
2010-08-22, 10:36
I dont think i will like the new sights for it,i like the free aim,also can some one tell me how you get the Pics as quotes.i realy want one.:(

13DarkWolf
2010-08-22, 10:46
bosco;1421823']
You may like this (http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm115/Pride10101/RenderB-1.jpg) too.


l22a2 carbine OH MY BEJ33ZUS life as a crewman is going to be so good with 0.95
Can't wait for the release Devs - Bundeswehr, 3D optics, new sounds... damn this update is going to be extreme

Lock Patient Bear away I am so hyped for 0.95 :mrgreen:

Bellator
2010-08-22, 10:48
The opposite - ME army with tonns of money

No. The US armed forces have tons of money -- almost as much as the rest of the world combined. MEC wouldn't have the same sort of budget, not even close. They'd mostly use whatever is economic and whatever the MEC countries have already: hence their use of old 7.62 NATO weapons and more affordable Russian vehicles.

I think that the high tech optics should be reserved for MEC squad leaders.

Kilgore.dfa
2010-08-22, 10:54
Nice improvement and also i saw some new additions such as reflex sight on G3 etc. Can't wait for v0.95.

bosco_
2010-08-22, 10:57
l22a2 carbine OH MY BEJ33ZUS life as a crewman is going to be so good with 0.95


That's not an L22, that's the upgraded L85. :p

This (http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm115/Pride10101/Render1-3.jpg) is the L22

13DarkWolf
2010-08-22, 11:04
HOLY COW
I can't believe how thoroughly you lads have covered the British weapons it is so brilliant! I now see why you guys went straight from 0.92 to 0.95! :razz:

Now time to hang my head in shame for being schooled on the l85 series by you Bosco!
:oops:

myles
2010-08-22, 12:09
ACOG for the brits

readyFORafk
2010-08-22, 13:53
i dont like it
i think its too easy now and everybody will use them
now its like you need a little bit skill to use grenadier and hit your target, but with this update, its damn too easy

DankE_SPB
2010-08-22, 13:58
Please, explain how this is easier?
0.91 - take UGL- aim- align distance mark with target - fire
0.95 - take UGL- aim- choose distance- align sight with target - fire

In addition time to make 1st shot is longer now, since there is deploy/undeploy animation, and firing at different distance will take longer too, since you will have to change distance zeroing instead of simply moving your mouse a bit to align HUD texture.

yeah, so much simplier and noob-toob'ish it became, think before posting :roll:

No.
Yes.
You might bring whatever sources you want, they would be wrong, since MEC is completely fictional:lol:

sakils2
2010-08-22, 14:06
No. The US armed forces have tons of money -- almost as much as the rest of the world combined. MEC wouldn't have the same sort of budget, not even close. They'd mostly use whatever is economic and whatever the MEC countries have already: hence their use of old 7.62 NATO weapons and more affordable Russian vehicles.

I think that the high tech optics should be reserved for MEC squad leaders.

Well, thank god you are not in charge. :)

LITOralis.nMd
2010-08-22, 14:07
I got a question though.

Can I still blindfire the grenadier grenade?

I use the gren kit in <100M battle, and once I get used to it there is no need to right click to aim, I just line it up and let it rip....

Is this still possible?

TheAssProtectors.Nr1
2010-08-22, 14:13
Wow, looks cool! And what a great idea!

DeltaCommando
2010-08-22, 14:45
Hah! I loved it! :D

I also loved the new M16A1 with M203. That looks good.

Chuc
2010-08-22, 15:11
I got a question though.

Can I still blindfire the grenadier grenade?

I use the gren kit in <100M battle, and once I get used to it there is no need to right click to aim, I just line it up and let it rip....

Is this still possible?

Of course you can fire without sighting. However most UGLs have a 50m setting which is usually slightly more than the minimum arming distance required for the grenade to detonate, so you might as well use the sights at that range. (barring specifically the M4 ACOG M203, as the optic obscures the leaf sight on the 50m setting, a bit of 'asymmetrical-balance realism' there :p)

Amir
2010-08-22, 15:22
Damn, after a long time of learning to shoot with the old GL and finally mastering it, they bring up these xD goddamnit. But very nice work indeed!

Snazz
2010-08-22, 17:54
I like how the video demonstrates a great new feature AND shows its application across 11 different factions. :)

Elektro
2010-08-22, 18:23
Will this by any chance lead to this or is it just dbzao doing propaganda :smile:?

http://i.imgur.com/YdvVI.jpg

theflidgeface
2010-08-22, 20:34
Awesome! it was cool seeing all the weapons and their grenade launchers

Gore
2010-08-22, 21:01
i used the grenadier alot back in the first versions of pr, amazing how long it has come since then. would never had imagined it. i just hope you never touch the grappling hook and start fiddling with that :)

Twonkle
2010-08-22, 21:07
DankE_SPB;1421844']The opposite - ME army with tonns of money.

They got the oil!

DankE_SPB;1421981']

In addition time to make 1st shot is longer now, since there is deploy/undeploy animation, and firing at different distance will take longer too, since you will have to change distance zeroing instead of simply moving your mouse a bit to align HUD texture.

yeah, so much simplier and noob-toob'ish it became, think before posting :roll:




Yeah, I don't understand what people are talking about... The grenadier kit is already really simple to use & aim with. :P

CaptainGasper
2010-08-22, 22:15
Looks like it's so easy to use...

The actual grenadier is only for sharpshooters :D

Epipen
2010-08-22, 23:07
Looks like it's so easy to use...

The actual grenadier is only for sharpshooters :D

I don't think that actual granadier is too hard... you just need some markers to see the distance from the target... :P

0n3-sh0t-0n3-k1LL
2010-08-23, 01:34
that'll make life a lot easier......

3===SPECTER===3
2010-08-23, 02:42
Wait is that an M16A1 w/ M203 or an M16A2 w/ M203? I thought it was A2....

Chuc
2010-08-23, 03:05
That's a M16A1 M203 featured in the video.

goguapsy
2010-08-23, 03:50
Ok, who said this isn't Project Cool Weaponz and Gunz?

Zrix
2010-08-23, 04:02
https://regtransfers-sth-se.diino.com/download/zrixxx/Pics/Fun/somuchwin.png

3===SPECTER===3
2010-08-23, 04:27
Chuc;1422687']That's a M16A1 M203 featured in the video.

Damn I was wrong :oops: Looking really nice

ytman
2010-08-23, 05:47
I wish I could run the game in high textures...


Oh. Wait.

O_O I want! :D

Arnoldio
2010-08-23, 07:56
That m16a1 is sooo much win, reminds me of vanilla times :D

Moonlight
2010-08-23, 09:17
This all "omg noobtoobing" talk makes this thread look so OMG-attention-level-like. :)
Although, if mortars are gonna be added in .95(DO WANT), now that'll be OMG.

Maxfragg
2010-08-23, 10:03
That m16a1 is sooo much win, reminds me of vanilla times :D

why does a weapon thats never been in vBF2 remind you of it?

Hitperson
2010-08-23, 10:26
Hah! I loved it! :D

I also loved the new M16A1 with M203. That looks good.

Scarface recreation FTW!!

Darkside
2010-08-23, 11:33
Wow amazing :D
The Hamas will have the m16a1 with GL :lol:
... and... I' ve noticed the different ranges of the granade launchers, the m203 is max 250 meters ( i suppose because the m203 is the short version, is possible?), and the gp30 of 400 meters wow :O
l85 with acog, m4 carabine with Eotech and finally c7a2 ugl (is the m203, right?)
It will be a fantastic release. Keep it up!

Wakain
2010-08-23, 13:07
awesome tease, looking forward!

ZephyrDark
2010-08-23, 13:47
Wow amazing :D
The Hamas will have the m16a1 with GL :lol:
... and... I' ve noticed the different ranges of the granade launchers, the m203 is max 250 meters ( i suppose because the m203 is the short version, is possible?), and the gp30 of 400 meters wow :O
l85 with acog, m4 carabine with Eotech and finally c7a2 ugl (is the m203, right?)
It will be a fantastic release. Keep it up!

bosco;1421823']Is it me or do some UGLs have longer range settings on them. Like the GP-25 has max of 400m when the M203 has 250m max. Is it because of the scopes and the way they're aimed? Or is it Asymmetrical warfare stuffs again.
The sights reflect their real counterparts, but nothing stops you from using the 203 on ranges past 250m, you just have to account for the +.

*facepalm*it has to do with the sights for the m203 , it only goes up to 250 in real life so.

spawncaptain
2010-08-23, 15:40
why does a weapon thats never been in vBF2 remind you of it?
Maybe because in vanilla, USMC grenadiers used to have the M16A2 w/ M203 which has a similiar handguard.

Antonyo
2010-08-23, 17:23
I'm a soldier in the swedish army and I have real life experience shoting the swedish version of the M203, which is sighted out to 350m, if anyone cares :P and the sight is mounted on the side of the rifle instead of the top.

BTW if you actually hit what you want to hit at 350m that is one luckey shot since the m203 isnt that acurate at those ranges.

Now to the point, In real life the hardest part as an grenadier is determening the range to the target and then putting the sights on target when the distans isnt exactly 100, 150 and so on, which in game is even harder i think since depth and distance is hard to gauge. But i think this system will work realy good and reflexcts real world conditions in a very good way :D

Claymore
2010-08-23, 17:51
I sense massive ugl ownage :-)

ZephyrDark
2010-08-24, 02:27
@Antonyo

The reason your m203 is sighted at 350m is most likely because, as you said, the sight is on the side as opposed to the placement of the USMC/USArmy one (top rails compared to the side) which probably limits the max accurate distance

Dr.Roy.Mustang
2010-08-24, 03:26
Wow! Gonna love this! I can guarantee you this kit will become the second most favorite kit after the Sniper after this release ~

MAC$DRE
2010-08-24, 05:22
amazing! one of my favorite kits just got so much better !!

A.Fear[3|AIU]
2010-08-24, 19:08
noob tube is now easy for all:twisted:

Tim270
2010-08-24, 19:31
noob tube is now easy for all:twisted:

Because it was not already?

Lutefisk
2010-08-24, 20:22
Yaaaay, M4 with m203 & eotech, cod4 style ftw : D

Boommelonshot
2010-08-25, 17:15
Right on! The grenadier kit will be up to par with other squad kits for usefulness.

vsbf2sniper
2010-08-29, 05:36
Sweet!!

rough77
2010-08-30, 11:41
looks easy to handle, but I was able to hit a sighted target after the 2nd shot in 85 % of all all cases with the current system. it's not realistic though.

Outlawz7
2010-08-30, 12:39
Hmm, whoever recorded that video must be the only person who doesn't lag out on Qinling coop with all the bots in such a tiny space... :P

Maxfragg
2010-08-30, 14:28
Qinling was never laggy for me in Coop

Sisko
2010-08-30, 17:38
Right on! The grenadier kit will be up to par with other squad kits for usefulness.

Yeah... just like the ACOG MG was

Liquid_Cow
2010-08-30, 21:39
Yeah... just like the ACOG MG was

You mean the belt fed sniper rifle?

EvilWaffles
2010-08-30, 22:25
That is one beautiful piece of hardware. Can't wait to accurately blow up the civis!

Dv83r
2010-08-31, 02:54
I love the grenadier so much. This will be an awesome improvement.

Jimbow
2010-08-31, 03:20
That is one beautiful piece of hardware. Can't wait to accurately blow up the civis!


Ture that

SharpShooter13971
2010-08-31, 21:13
Good Work, by the way couldn't you do this for a sniper as well? Just thought id share my NEVER BEFORE SUGGESTED SUGGESTION...just like the fastropez