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Stigger
2010-02-16, 14:46
Hey everybody, Latest work in progress on a new mil mi-8 'hip' transport helicopter for PR1 and future versions of the mod. :razz:

http://www.pintura3d.com/downloads/reality/wip_m-8_3.jpg

http://www.pintura3d.com/downloads/reality/wip_m-8_5.jpg

http://www.pintura3d.com/downloads/reality/mi17_cockpit_1.jpg

http://www.pintura3d.com/downloads/reality/wip_m-8_2.jpg

http://www.pintura3d.com/downloads/reality/wip_m-8_8.jpg

http://www.pintura3d.com/downloads/reality/wip_m-8_1.jpg

:p

http://www.pintura3d.com/downloads/reality/mil-8_23.jpg

Mi17 support helicopter.

http://www.pintura3d.com/downloads/reality/mi17_skyscene_1.jpg


http://www.pintura3d.com/downloads/reality/mi17_9.jpg

http://www.pintura3d.com/downloads/reality/mi17_14.jpg

http://www.pintura3d.com/downloads/reality/mi17_wallpaper.jpg

http://www.pintura3d.com/downloads/reality/mi17_15.jpg

http://www.pintura3d.com/downloads/reality/mi17_10.jpg

Adriaan
2010-02-16, 14:47
Yeaaah!!! A dream come true :D
Very good looking!

Zimmer
2010-02-16, 14:47
Love it ^^

MonkeySoldier
2010-02-16, 14:49
<3 Is the model and skin finished, or are there still a couple of things (excl. animating and coding) to be done? Oh, and the door can be opened and closed? :D

Stigger
2010-02-16, 14:59
<3 Is the model and skin finished, or are there still a couple of things (excl. animating and coding) to be done? Oh, and the door can be opened and closed? :D

Yeah the main model and skin are pretty much done, got the lods and col meshes to sort out yet and yes all the doors are animatable.

Zehtuka
2010-02-16, 15:01
Holy shit that's awesome!

Can we have a tri count?

wookimonsta
2010-02-16, 15:06
sweet, now all we need is a chinook with closeable doors.

Amok@ndy
2010-02-16, 15:08
ace :)
looking forward to some ingame screens :)

Rhino
2010-02-16, 15:11
sweet, now all we need is a chinook with closeable doors.

its rear door already dose open and close.

rampo
2010-02-16, 15:16
http://i880.photobucket.com/albums/ac1/rampo93/Schweet2.png

Drav
2010-02-16, 15:17
Lovely texturing Stig......

XxxGrANdmA
2010-02-16, 15:21
That be sexy

Scot
2010-02-16, 15:25
Excellent work as usual mate, you put the va va voom in to PR.

steve_06-07
2010-02-16, 15:25
Looks like a beetle with the back doors open ;) This is truly awesome, I literally gasped when I saw it.

Polka
2010-02-16, 15:26
AWESOME.

morphvox
2010-02-16, 15:27
great!!!

superhunty
2010-02-16, 15:31
It looks like J-Lo with those doors hanging out. You can just imagine it waddling around the map.

Ha no nice work my friend nice work.

Arnoldio
2010-02-16, 15:53
Rhino;1269585']its rear door already dose open and close.

User controlled or animated automatically?

Because the hind in POE2 has automatc doors...like landing gear comming out on jets... IMO thats really suitable for all choppers with doors and hatches in PR.

fishmuffins
2010-02-16, 15:56
jizzed my pants!!!

Rhino
2010-02-16, 15:59
User controlled or animated automatically?

Because the hind in POE2 has automatc doors...like landing gear comming out on jets... IMO thats really suitable for all choppers with doors and hatches in PR.

Automatic, like POE2's done via the landing gear.

When we did the Merlin we thought it might be cool to have player controlled door, but found it didn't contribute anything and "might" be the cause to the famous "merlin lag", as well as you had to have a co-pilot to open/close it which didn't help. Automatic seems the far better option.

ma21212
2010-02-16, 16:05
DOOOOOOD!!!! hell yeah! (the old Cow doesnt even have a joystik lol...)

driver-ch-driver
2010-02-16, 16:07
Its incredible :D

jbgeezer
2010-02-16, 16:09
Pure awesomeness! :)

Hauteclocque
2010-02-16, 16:09
Top stuff as usual, I assume there will be different camos, won't it ?
:p

Gosu-Rizzle
2010-02-16, 16:13
Looking really great! The old cow has nothing on this beast ;)
But is there not a problem with having 2 moveable doors in PR at the same time? I thought you removed the Merlin door in order to have it on the Chinook. Or have i misunderstood that?

karambaitos
2010-02-16, 16:39
Is.... is that in gonna be that good in BF2

Rhino
2010-02-16, 16:57
Looking really great! The old cow has nothing on this beast ;)
But is there not a problem with having 2 moveable doors in PR at the same time? I thought you removed the Merlin door in order to have it on the Chinook. Or have i misunderstood that?

dunno where you got that from otherwise you wouldn't be able to have more than one type of jet in a map :p

RedAlertSF
2010-02-16, 17:01
Oh my god. That's all I have to say! :)

Well, really, it looks amazing. And even better, it seems to be the first helicopter to have well detailed textures for the cockpit (well Apache has quite sharp textures). AWESOME!

Rhino
2010-02-16, 17:10
Oh my god. That's all I have to say! :)

Well, really, it looks amazing. And even better, it seems to be the first helicopter to have well detailed textures for the cockpit (well Apache has quite sharp textures). AWESOME!


You should check out the Chinook, Lynx etc cockpits :p

Sluismaster1
2010-02-16, 17:26
This thing looks f*cking badass!
LOVE IT!
What factions are gonna use it, Russians only?

RedAlertSF
2010-02-16, 17:31
Rhino;1269726']You should check out the Chinook, Lynx etc cockpits :p

Oh yeah I completely forgot the Lynx and I haven't fled Chinook yet.

But LB, BH and Huey cockpit textures are way too bad imo, they should be updated.

MonkeySoldier
2010-02-16, 17:31
This thing looks f*cking badass!
LOVE IT!
What factions are gonna use it, Russians only?
Yes, they'll give the MEC the VBF2 model on purpose, to bully them. :roll::lol:

Gosu-Rizzle
2010-02-16, 17:53
Rhino;1269709']dunno where you got that from otherwise you wouldn't be able to have more than one type of jet in a map :p

Thx Rhino, good to hear :thumbsup:

Smegburt_funkledink
2010-02-16, 18:14
Stigger;1269556']http://www.pintura3d.com/downloads/reality/mil-8_23.jpg

Oh noes! We're heading for a black hole! :razz:

Simply awesome work Stiggie!

PR: Giving Arma a run for it's money day by day.

Maxfragg
2010-02-16, 18:27
nice

to animation, the only limit is, that every vehicle can only have a certain number of animated parts like flaps, gear, doors and so on (can't tell how many it was exactly but something round about 16)

Artnez
2010-02-16, 18:56
Wow, amazing texture work. A+ :D

Hitperson
2010-02-16, 18:58
"some say he has only one eye and that he thinks the london underground is a political movment, all we know is he's called [R-DEV]Stigger"

looks fabulous mate.

Rangu
2010-02-16, 19:06
Looks amazing, Stigger!

Tomato-Rifle
2010-02-16, 19:07
Brilliant work! LOVE IT!

Hauteclocque
2010-02-16, 19:11
What factions are gonna use it, Russians only?
China has some Mi 8s , and many African countries as well, so it could be included in the ARF.:-P

Lucke189
2010-02-16, 19:21
Best I've ever seen

Priby
2010-02-16, 19:35
Stigger...You can be my wingman anytime.

theflidgeface
2010-02-16, 19:42
shit thats beautiful, nice work :-P:-P:-P

aXoCHaPo
2010-02-16, 20:30
Hauteclocque;1269836']China has some Mi 8s , and many African countries as well, so it could be included in the ARF.:-P

+1 that would be great.:D

Anyway, awesome work !
Keep going

Nibbit
2010-02-16, 21:08
PR ONE OMG YEAAAAAAAAAAAAA

EnermaX
2010-02-16, 22:00
PR1.... WTF

SuperTimo
2010-02-16, 22:35
quality stuff. Good work as ever there stigger. :)

One question, will there ever be potentional for the Hip with rockets on? :D

http://www.guncopter.com/images/gallery/mi-8.jpg

Republic_Commando
2010-02-16, 23:11
Ooooh doors now it won't get so drafty inside :)

LeandroHunter
2010-02-16, 23:50
Looks good, great job. Super Stallion... hmmm, on PR? :D

TomDackery
2010-02-17, 00:42
This post was ninja'd.

Zulnex
2010-02-17, 00:55
Looks absolutely amazing. Keep up the excellent work.

sniperrocks
2010-02-17, 01:20
WOW looks great!!!
Can't wait to see it in action!

Howitzer
2010-02-17, 01:26
will there ever be potentional for the Hip with rockets on? :D

http://www.guncopter.com/images/gallery/mi-8.jpg


I smell over-enthusiast Arma fan lol

Dev1200
2010-02-17, 01:28
Rhino;1269585']its rear door already dose open and close.



Whats the commands to do so? :D

Jedimushroom
2010-02-17, 01:49
EDIT: Duuuh I am a stupid, turns out the Mi-8 and the Mi-17 are one and the same, or rather that the latter is an upgrade of the former.

Sweet model, any news on what factions will have it? All the ones currently using the Mi-17?

M_Striker
2010-02-17, 02:25
Rhino;1269585']its rear door already dose open and close.

No really? In this patch? .9? I have never seen the door closed... ever. When does it actually automatically close?

Jedimushroom
2010-02-17, 02:58
No really? In this patch? .9? I have never seen the door closed... ever. When does it actually automatically close?

Closes when the vehicle gets up to a certain speed, I have never noticed it much either but I am assured the feature is present.

M_Striker
2010-02-17, 03:13
Closes when the vehicle gets up to a certain speed, I have never noticed it much either but I am assured the feature is present.

Oh really? Well, in that case, the door should be closed at a lower speed, because it doesn't look too great when it's always open and the thing is flying at 200 kph haha.

Drop_Deadx
2010-02-17, 03:18
No really? In this patch? .9? I have never seen the door closed... ever. When does it actually automatically close?

I remember the the C-nok in and older version of PR or that could be my imagination and you press X and it would close and open.

BloodBane611
2010-02-17, 03:33
:shock::shock::shock::shock:

That's super sexy!

Snazz
2010-02-17, 03:34
I remember the the C-nok in and older version of PR or that could be my imagination and you press X and it would close and open.
That was the Merlin.

hiberNative
2010-02-17, 03:47
such an icon. great work. love the detail!

Hauteclocque
2010-02-17, 05:34
No really? In this patch? .9? I have never seen the door closed... ever. When does it actually automatically close?

Jump quickly from a Chinook and you will see the back door which is opening ;)

Glimmerman
2010-02-17, 08:23
Wow looks great, will there be armed versions of it also?

Elektro
2010-02-17, 09:24
Is it just the cold effecting my brain, or does that look like a 3D cockpit? :goodvibes

Latvian_Rifleman
2010-02-17, 09:33
nice mi 8

killonsight95
2010-02-17, 09:46
Glimmerman;1270478']Wow looks great, will there be armed versions of it also?

yes you'll be able to drop ninjas insted of crates
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f10-pr-general-discussion/76191-ninja-easter-egg-theory.html

=ice=deltasniper
2010-02-17, 11:40
where nice! good worck DEVs

penman92
2010-02-17, 12:06
i can only say one word:
WOW
keep up the good work!

AnimalMother.
2010-02-17, 13:29
been wanting this helicopter for a while!

never knew the back opened like that though


slightly unrelated: also is it just me or does the vBF2 Mi-17 looks shorter and fatter then it should?

killonsight95
2010-02-17, 13:30
looks like a gaint beetle

Bringerof_D
2010-02-17, 14:48
lookin beautiful

psychickactivity
2010-02-17, 23:16
So much artists here !!!
BRAVO!!

Z-trooper
2010-02-17, 23:20
been wanting this helicopter for a while!

never knew the back opened like that though


slightly unrelated: also is it just me or does the vBF2 Mi-17 looks shorter and fatter then it should?

you can find inaccuracies on all of the vBF2 vehicles.

Abrams turret is out of proportions and the phalanx is generally FUBAR just to name two quick examples.

Elektro
2010-02-17, 23:22
Z-trooper;1271300']you can find inaccuracies on all of the vBF2 vehicles.

Abrams turret is out of proportions and the phalanx is generally FUBAR just to name to quick examples.

Yeah ! What ever Z-trooper just said :thumbsup:

rushn
2010-02-18, 01:25
I hope it has some rocket pods :)

hazza1205
2010-02-18, 07:06
Lookin' good. Its great how this mod isnt just made and then abandoned. Cant wait to see that bird in game. Keep it up!

Rhino
2010-02-18, 07:31
Z-trooper;1271300']Abrams turret is out of proportions and the phalanx is generally FUBAR just to name two quick examples.

oh god don't get me started on the phalanx :p

Most of the vBF2 models are undersized for gameplay reasons but the Phalanx, well, I dunno wtf they where thinking....

rl:
Height = 4.699m
Width = 2.54m
Depth = 3.149m

vbf2:
Height = 7m
Width = 4m
Depth = 4m

How did they get the sizes soo wrong and why did they make it soo much larger hehe? :p

General Fuct
2010-02-18, 07:58
She's looking good!

Heskey
2010-02-18, 11:03
...And then I jizzed in my pants.

J.Brawn
2010-02-18, 13:57
love it :)

Redamare
2010-02-18, 14:49
http://www.pintura3d.com/downloads/reality/mil-8_23.jpg

The Heli is going SOO FAST that the front tires are getting warped :D Vroom Vroom ^_^ lol WOW i really like it ahah good job :) .....

Hope those doors are going to be incorporated into .91 :) so when you land the doors automaticaly open huh? :P

MaxSalvatore
2010-02-18, 14:50
You are gifted. :shock:

ma21212
2010-02-18, 15:36
Z-trooper;1271300']you can find inaccuracies on all of the vBF2 vehicles.

Abrams turret is out of proportions and the phalanx is generally FUBAR just to name two quick examples.

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/natural/9f2cf91477e44fb7dca6f327b4ffbf3fcb08e748.png

whats he holding...i don see a joystik...

Rhino
2010-02-18, 15:49
He's holding a wii controller! :D

xiso
2010-02-18, 16:59
Wow n1 texture of the chopper, looks ten times better than the old.

I see you removed the door guns and a lot of choppers dont even have some. Whyyyy ? :D

MonkeySoldier
2010-02-18, 17:15
whats he holding...i don see a joystik...
The pilot's controlling two choppers at a time!

OT: No plans for an attack version, like the Huey has?

Zeno
2010-02-18, 18:01
this chopper needs a 6 pod wing!!!!

edit: give us the mi-8 E:

Up to 6x 32 rocket pods
Steerable 12.7mm machine gun in nose turret
Various wire-guided anti-tank missiles (usually at-2 swatter)
7.62mm or 12.7mm door guns
2x 12.7mm gun pods
bombs

http://www.guncopter.com/mi-8/

Gosu-Rizzle
2010-02-18, 19:36
Rhino;1271883']He's holding a wii controller! :D

ZOMG YOU ARE MAKING PR FOR WIIIIIII !!1!1!








or not?... :)

Cheiftain_UK
2010-02-19, 13:11
I see you removed the door guns and a lot of choppers dont even have some. Whyyyy ? :D

Yh why doesnt the chinook have a rear door gun? also i heard that chinook door can close is this true?

Punkbuster
2010-02-19, 14:35
Will it be possible to open those doors on the back????????????:confused::mrgreen:

AWESOME BTW!

Rhino
2010-02-19, 14:52
Will it be possible to open those doors on the back????????????:confused::mrgreen:

AWESOME BTW!


We soo need some kinda FAQ bit to these highlight posts since no one seems to read even the first page of replies....

samogon100500
2010-02-19, 18:29
NICE!
But i think we need attack version of Mi8!!(With 4 or 6 pylons)
http://dic.academic.ru/pictures/wiki/files/109/4b15655973795c901c625016b667b718.JPG
http://www.missiles.ru/_foto/Chkal_Ka_Mil-08/IMG_0336%20%20CaptureOne.jpg
http://www.rusarmy.com/photo/avia0/vertoleti/mi-8/mi-8mt%20002.jpg
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:GsPIfNtmpHmsoM
I think if we need to make rocketpods as childs objects!!

arisaka99
2010-02-19, 19:29
Motherland! The awesomest country is getting lots of love!

rushn
2010-02-19, 23:56
this chopper needs a 6 pod wing!!!!

edit: give us the mi-8 E:

Up to 6x 32 rocket pods
Steerable 12.7mm machine gun in nose turret
Various wire-guided anti-tank missiles (usually at-2 swatter)
7.62mm or 12.7mm door guns
2x 12.7mm gun pods
bombs

MI-8 Hip E Helicopter Gunship (http://www.guncopter.com/mi-8/)

that will take the whole team to pilot LOL

I do like the steerable 12.7mm gun pod as it will make the co pilot more useful in trans choppers

also I do believe the new version has a new nose
http://www.thewallpapers.us/data/media/711/mi17.jpg

PatrickLA_CA
2010-02-20, 10:31
Rhino;1269585']its rear door already dose open and close.
Are you talking about the CHINOOK and if yes how to close and open the door?


BTW what is PR1 I have heard about PR2 but PR1 ?

Hauteclocque
2010-02-20, 10:37
BTW what is PR1 I have heard about PR2 but PR1 ?

...herm

The game you play on the 0.9 version...

PatrickLA_CA
2010-02-20, 10:45
Hauteclocque;1273532']...herm

The game you play on the 0.9 version...

Thanks but what about the Chinook's door, I read all replies but I couldnt understand because I havent seen it's back doors closed

Hauteclocque
2010-02-20, 10:51
As it has been written several times in this thread, the door is automatically closed and opened, you can't command it.
Play Archer in cooperative, pilot a chinook and jump quickly from a chinook, you will see how the door works.

Andy[EEF]
2010-02-20, 14:01
While the Mi-8 usually does have rockets, bombs and stuff in reality.. I don't think it would be a "transport" helicopter anymore, more like a rambo BF2 pilot's wet dream. If it were to have such a version I bet they'd make it like the CAS huey, with no seats in the back and make its only function an "attack" helicopter.

Arnoldio
2010-02-20, 17:24
Anywho, automatic chooper doors dont work online it seems...

I was just playing with my friend, he saw it close on his and mine chinook, i could not see any, it was just open the whole time...

The_MDexs
2010-02-21, 07:31
i love it real nice work man

sylent/shooter
2010-02-21, 14:02
ya... I never see the chopper doors close online...what about the arrow keys"? like they did with BF1942.... probably already been mentioned... Anyways.. GREAT work on the Mi8 look forward to flying :)

Maxfragg
2010-02-21, 14:56
read the thread, trust me, the doors DO close, and the arrowkeys might have caused the famous merlin-lag, so they are a no go on choppers

Latvian_Rifleman
2010-02-21, 17:01
nice dude beatiufull

sylent/shooter
2010-02-22, 11:31
I read the thread... I just never see them XD and yes you are probably right about the merlin lag...

mangeface
2010-02-24, 04:26
;1273684']While the Mi-8 usually does have rockets, bombs and stuff in reality.. I don't think it would be a "transport" helicopter anymore, more like a rambo BF2 pilot's wet dream. If it were to have such a version I bet they'd make it like the CAS huey, with no seats in the back and make its only function an "attack" helicopter.

Yeah, but the problem with the CAS huey in this game is that it doesn't have door guns, like the one's in real life do. Perhaps a .50 out the left, and a GAU-17 out the right?

(GAU-17, the Marines designation of the M134)

Blakeman
2010-02-24, 15:21
Yeah, but the problem with the CAS huey in this game is that it doesn't have door guns, like the one's in real life do. Perhaps a .50 out the left, and a GAU-17 out the right?

(GAU-17, the Marines designation of the M134)

Some have rockets and the door guns which would make the UH-1Y Venom a real attack helo but slightly less menacing than the Cobra.

I could see the Hip and the Huey in a more attack helo role on certain versions of certain maps without a normal attack helo.

samogon100500
2010-02-24, 15:34
;1273684']While the Mi-8 usually does have rockets, bombs and stuff in reality.. I don't think it would be a "transport" helicopter anymore, more like a rambo BF2 pilot's wet dream. If it were to have such a version I bet they'd make it like the CAS huey, with no seats in the back and make its only function an "attack" helicopter.

yep,i like that idea!!!In 1st chechen war Russian Armed Forces use thats chopper,becouse mostly helicopter air bases no have sponsorship by state(bad economy situation ~1987-1993 years(we name thats - perestroika))

I think thats chopper(Attack version) good seen on antiterror maps and on beirut(optionaly in some GMs)

General Dragosh
2010-02-25, 19:01
GOD DAMN O_______________________O

I think ill be so stunned for weeks

Kosari
2010-02-25, 19:06
Good work guys

Freedom
2010-02-25, 21:38
Now that is something. Great work, looking forward to that :)

Snazz
2010-02-27, 05:35
I'm anticipating the vanilla Mi-17 being replaced, it's possibly the worst vanilla model left.

I hope it also replaces the vanilla Zhi-8, which is relatively uncommon IRL.

Only a small number (15~20) have been built.
Zhi-8 Transport / SAR Helicopter (http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/helicopter/z8.asp)

http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/helicopter/images/z8_01.jpg

Where as:
Over 250 examples of the Russian Mi-17/171 (NATO reporting name: Hip-H) multirole helicopter are currently operational with the PLA.
Mi-17/171 Hip Multirole Helicopter - SinoDefence.com (http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/helicopter/mi17.asp)

http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/helicopter/images/mi17_01.jpg

Zhi-8s are as uncommon as Black Hawks in the PLA...
The PLA Army Aviation Corps operates around 20 Sikorsky S-70C transport helicopters, which are known as the UH-60 Black Hawk in the U.S. Army.
S-70C Black Hawk Helicopter - SinoDefence.com (http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/helicopter/s70.asp)

http://www.sinodefence.com/airforce/helicopter/images/s70_01.jpg

Ta77a
2010-02-27, 09:14
Are there seats that you sit on or is it like the old Merlin chopper were u open the doors and float around inside?

Snazz
2010-02-27, 16:45
Are there seats that you sit on or is it like the old Merlin chopper were u open the doors and float around inside?
The Merlin had seats, floating around inside was just an option.

votps
2010-03-01, 10:53
wow nice !

but there will be function to close/open these doors at the back of the helicopter?

or it will be always open?

SuperTimo
2010-03-01, 13:56
I smell over-enthusiast Arma fan lol

ive never played arma lol

Snazz
2010-03-01, 17:26
but there will be function to close/open these doors at the back of the helicopter?

or it will be always open?
Probably automatic like the Chinook.

EvilHobo
2010-03-02, 04:32
Looks absolutely great, well done.

Ls4SpeedPilot
2010-03-02, 20:08
realy nice work ! keep on !!

rushn
2010-03-06, 16:08
would be cool if you can float around inside

ElPablo99522
2010-03-06, 16:46
Looks beautiful, can't wait to see it in action.

M_Striker
2010-03-06, 18:41
read the thread, trust me, the doors DO close, and the arrowkeys might have caused the famous merlin-lag, so they are a no go on choppers

I have never seen the doors close.

Portable.Cougar
2010-03-06, 20:36
Needs more Folding wing 2.75mm Rockets

alexandrei07
2010-03-07, 09:27
WOW !! great job man!!!

lol-child
2010-03-09, 12:41
wont you get hurt if u float around?

Bluedrake42
2010-03-12, 03:44
Those doors could really double serve well as cover for the squads to disperse on insertion as well

nir0
2010-03-19, 04:30
what's the problem making multi-tasked vehicles? jews already have their tank with passengers bay! give this chopper some rocketz!

Darkside
2010-03-19, 14:05
wow nice work =D

xxXmsgt_jimbobXxx
2010-03-19, 15:30
what's the problem making multi-tasked vehicles? jews already have their tank with passengers bay! give this chopper some rocketz!

just so you know that came off as being really racist. You may want to watch how you say things in english. Sorry for my bad russian>>> Точно так же вы знаете, что сошел как на самом деле расист. Вы можете наблюдать, как вы говорите на английском языке. Извините за мой плохой русский.

sakils2
2010-03-19, 16:26
Whats so racist about the word- Jews? Should I be offended when someone calls me Latvian or Baltic? For gods sake...

Smegburt_funkledink
2010-03-19, 16:34
Whats so racist about the word- Jews? Should I be offended when someone calls me Latvian or Baltic? For gods sake...

Not all Israelis are Jewish. :roll:

I'd be offended if you called me a Christian.

Before a mod comes in to warn you guys, stay on topic or STFUFFS.

Rudd
2010-03-19, 17:35
Whats so racist about the word- Jews? Should I be offended when someone calls me Latvian or Baltic? For gods sake...

the problem is because Jewish is a confusing name, its refers to both a race of people and a religion and some people also use it when refering to the Israelis, which is kinda silly.

So if you called me a Jew, it could be like

Calling some a christian, which is not necessarily how they would like to be defined
Calling someone a Saxon or Roman, which is complicated with the Jewish people due to how our ancestors moved around much of the western world after teh sacking of Judea - resulting in a very diverse culture due to assimilation in to new home countries.
And its not really a nationality, so don't call them that.

It is NOT like calling someone Latvian.

for example, My mother is Jewish, but she is British and agnostic.

samogon100500
2010-03-19, 17:37
Not all Israelis are Jewish. :roll:

I'd be offended if you called me a Christian.

Before a mod comes in to warn you guys, stay on topic or STFUFFS.

We know that!!!Evrei(Еврей)translate as jew) is not bad word in russian language!!!
It's people who live in israel and mostly russians think that!!!
2 niro - нах...на ты это им сказал?Щяс они тут усрутся какие все русские расисты!

sakils2
2010-03-19, 18:45
Not all Israelis are Jewish. :roll:

I'd be offended if you called me a Christian.

Before a mod comes in to warn you guys, stay on topic or STFUFFS.


Did I say all Israelis are Jews? No.



Rudd;1299332']the problem is because Jewish is a confusing name, its refers to both a race of people and a religion and some people also use it when refering to the Israelis, which is kinda silly.

Jews are not a race, they are a nation and ethnoreligious group.

SAUCE (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews)


Rudd;1299332']It is NOT like calling someone Latvian..

In my book, it is. Latvians are a nation (a nation which is falling apart, though), just like Jews.

tell that to my Jewish Grandmother, most Jews I know consider themselves part of the Jewish race, i.e. the people descended from the Judean people after the sacking.

Just like Nazis considered themselves part of the Aryan race (which they believed was superior to others)?

Rudd
2010-03-19, 18:49
tell that to my Jewish Grandmother, most Jews I know consider themselves part of the Jewish race, i.e. the people descended from the Judean people after the sacking.

as I said, its confusing

and as I said, the migratory Jews have diversified resulting in this confusion with multiple definitions and opinions.

xatu miller
2010-03-19, 19:35
God dame it stop going off topic. I like come in there on the last page expecting a discussion about the new model and i see a discussion about Jews Christians and other stuff. I thought this forum was better then youtube?

Dunehunter
2010-03-19, 19:47
What the **** is going on in here?


And for the record, there are multiple ways to define Jewishness. In some views, someone who belongs to the Jewish race through matrilinear descent but who is an atheist is more Jewish than someone who actually believes, but who is not of Jewish descent.

Back on topic, now.

TrahnLee
2010-03-20, 07:14
Dunehunter;1299478']What the **** is going on in here?


And for the record, there are multiple ways to define Jewishness. In some views, someone who belongs to the Jewish race through matrilinear descent but who is an atheist is more Jewish than someone who actually believes, but who is not of Jewish descent.

Back on topic, now.

Yes, please, back on topic talking about Helicopters.. Respect Dunehunters request, or I will lock this thread.

Spinkyone
2010-03-20, 18:31
On topic: To my knowledge the rear door of the Mi-8 doesn't appear to be powered, it would be physically impossible to open during flight or incredibly dangerous to do so. The rear doors are either completely removed for some operations or there are multiple specials doors with an attentional split door out there creating another rear door (but then they are paratrooper version in very small numbers).

So the question is: there is no way to prevent someone from opening it like the Merlin or would be unrealistic with altitude controls like the Chinook so would it be better sealed shut?

http://www.jasu.org/pz/hw/hwa/david_harvey/Mi-8/Cargo%20door%20RH%20inside.jpg
http://www.jasu.org/pz/hw/hwa/david_harvey/Mi-8/Cargo%20bay%201.jpg
http://www.jasu.org/pz/hw/hwa/david_harvey/Mi-8/Cargo%20door%20LH%20inside.jpg
http://www.jasu.org/pz/hw/hwa/david_harvey/Mi-8/Cargo%20bay%203.jpg
http://www.jasu.org/pz/hw/hwa/david_harvey/Mi-8/Cargo%20door%20RH%201.jpg

hotfranc
2010-03-30, 15:50
OK thanks

KYA
2010-04-02, 23:20
looking forward to flying the beast and will it be possible to open and close the back door?

Maxfragg
2010-04-03, 10:52
about ten times been answerd, the doors will open, when the landinggear is moving

Lachtan
2010-04-04, 09:20
Daymn, you should get paid for this, lol

Stigger
2010-04-09, 21:26
Development from the older mi-8 transport helicopter to a current mi-17 support helicopter.

Updated first post with a few new images.

http://www.pintura3d.com/downloads/reality/mi17_9.jpg

http://www.pintura3d.com/downloads/reality/mi17_15.jpg

igoreskutreskuplesku
2010-04-25, 00:30
very very very nice textures and model...cant wait ;-)

Excavus
2010-04-25, 01:08
I thought the first screenshot was from Arma 2! Excellent work!

Rudd
2010-04-25, 01:13
so perty!

BloodBane611
2010-04-25, 01:47
That's a beauty stigger!

Stoic Sentinel
2010-04-25, 02:32
I thought the first screenshot was from Arma 2! Excellent work!

There's nothing wrong with the 2nd one! ;)

steve_06-07
2010-04-25, 03:39
He's attached rockets to it...there's no hope for Russia's (and possibly M.E.C.??) enemies :(

Bazul14
2010-04-25, 03:55
So will the doors on the Mi8 open and close?
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Gunner_downer
2010-04-25, 05:37
about ten times been answerd, the doors will open, when the landinggear is moving

^ Says it all.

Arnoldio
2010-04-25, 07:20
Omg this is getting too good to be true...

Kaurava
2010-04-25, 07:41
Assault transports?
Oh yes.
Wonderful pics too.

Bazul14
2010-04-25, 14:12
LOL, about the doors and landing gear, i was joking, i read that, i was just curious about someone's reaction to this :P

rushn
2010-04-28, 01:42
are you going to update the nose like this/

http://www.thewallpapers.us/data/media/711/mi17.jpg

Maxfragg
2010-04-28, 06:12
how many of this new version are in service?

Nimble
2010-04-28, 08:42
He's attached rockets to it...there's no hope for Russia's (and possibly M.E.C.??) enemies :(

Actually, I think this may work to the advantage of those facing off against the Russians/MEC. Picture if you will people using this as an attack helicopter instead of an armed transport chopper.

Hakk!_Kenig
2010-04-28, 09:10
Nice,in which some versions of it appear?

Wild_Turkey09
2010-04-28, 13:49
Awesome, cant wait to fly it ;)

iwillkillyouhun
2010-04-28, 14:51
wonderful work :) LOVE IT :shock::shock::shock::razz::-x:-x

rushn
2010-04-29, 22:10
Nice,in which some versions of it appear?

thats the new version that is going to replace the old ones Mi-8T I thin the nose has a radar but iam not sure

it does make it look quite modern though
:p

Imchicken1
2010-04-29, 23:40
omgsh love it already. And are those MG and Hydra/rocket things i see on some of the sides? =P


thats the new version that is going to replace the old ones Mi-8T I thin the nose has a radar but iam not sure

it does make it look quite modern though
:p

So is it replacing the cow all together? Or only on some maps? Or are there some new maps that shall host this beautiful chopper?

EvilWaffles
2010-04-29, 23:50
Holy crap.. God I hope so

se5-soldier
2010-05-01, 10:52
How many people will it hold? Coz the chinhook is a big ass chopper but still holds small amounts of ppl? im not a game expert but is this because you canrt put more men in the sky? just asking chopper looks great tho!

Hauteclocque
2010-05-01, 11:07
Any vehicle can only transport 8 people. ;)
You can't add more, it's hardcoded.

Damian(>>>PL
2010-05-01, 13:20
Awesome model, and textures. I still remember why I love this MOD, thx you all.

mangeface
2010-05-02, 21:55
omgsh love it already. And are those MG and Hydra/rocket things i see on some of the sides? =P

Those sir, are definately rocket pods. Question is, are they going to have the real life equivalent in rockets? 128 of those monsters is a lot.

samogon100500
2010-05-03, 14:30
Thank for my suggestion about attack Mi8! =)

Excavus
2010-05-03, 14:55
Good. I want to see Russia vs USMC maps now. Attack Huey vs Attack Mi8. Relive the days of Vietnam.

Wakain
2010-05-03, 15:03
Good. I want to see Russia vs USMC maps now. Attack Huey vs Attack Mi8. Relive the days of Vietnam.

in the future you won't be needing the russians for that;)

***LeGeNDK1LLER***
2010-05-03, 19:17
very cool models.

samogon100500
2010-05-04, 16:18
Good. I want to see Russia vs USMC maps now. Attack Huey vs Attack Mi8. Relive the days of Vietnam.

128 rockets vs 14 rockets? :shock:
Anaway - UH1 faster that Mi8!

Imchicken1
2010-05-04, 22:37
I got a feeling they'll nerf it to balance it. If not, i have another reason to love the russians :P

Pariel
2010-05-04, 23:04
Well, the Mi-8 carries 57mm rockets, not 70mm ones like the Huey.

That said, 128 is a whole lot more than 14. Perhaps the Huey needs some 19-round pods? Dunno how often those are used.

Beautiful helicopters.

DankE_SPB
2010-05-04, 23:26
Well, the Mi-8 carries 57mm rockets, not 70mm ones like the Huey.

That said, 128 is a whole lot more than 14.

the TV modification carried up to 6 32-round blocks, which make a 192 of them:shock:
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/859/i324.jpg

btw, did you play original OFP(not the DR crap)- it took forever to unload all of them:mrgreen:

RHYS4190
2010-05-05, 04:28
DankE_SPB;1337632']the TV modification carried up to 6 32-round blocks, which make a 192 of them:shock:
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/859/i324.jpg

:


Be the Sh%t if we could have a chopper that can carry 192 of those rockets and then unleash them all at once.

, we need one of these for kashan!!!!! just for the lol :firing:


You would not even need to get closes you could sit a KM out from the target, and then let the spread handle the rest, doing that you could blanket 500m radius, and with 192 rockets your bound to hit some thing.


And on kashan 64, be nice to have some thing that could emulate the fire power of the A-10's, even if it a bit slow and vulnerable.

xI DIaboLoS Ix
2010-05-06, 00:47
lol, I can definitley see this being nurfed. Damn russians get everything good.

First of all, all of their vehicles are amphibious, there tanks are submarines. (YouTube - Tanks T - 90 and T - 80 across water obstacle. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-QWQsDNsRs))

Whats next, Russian flying boat?
YouTube - Beriev A-40 Albatros/Be-42 NATO Code: Mermaid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpoiTMV6agQ)

:O

Diabolos.

Imchicken1
2010-05-06, 20:53
zomgwtfBBQ T-90/T-80's can go underwater??? >.>

The A-40 would need half the map to take off let alone land


The Mi-8 could provide long range fire support. Just take off, hover above the base, and fire towards the target. You're bound to hit SOMETHING. Maybe just not accuretly... :P

Unmanned
2010-05-07, 00:08
Whats next, Russian flying boat?
YouTube - Beriev A-40 Albatros/Be-42 NATO Code: Mermaid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpoiTMV6agQ)

Diabolos.
gIr8bjg_o2U

BOBA_fat
2010-05-21, 03:18
I noticed there's red star up on the christmas......no i mean there are red stars on the sides of both mi-8 and mi-17,don't red stars stand for USSR ?im just saying ,lol

AcornBeing
2010-05-21, 04:18
I noticed there's red star up on the christmas......no i mean there are red stars on the sides of both mi-8 and mi-17,don't red stars stand for USSR ?im just saying ,lol

Yeah, kind of. Why bother repainting the whole thing anyway, it doesn't change its function. On the other hand - it is just a little something to keep the memory of these as the late Soviet era machines and the key role they served. I suppose Mi -24 Hind also have these stars. Tell me if I am wrong.

Good remark anyway. ;-)

BOBA_fat
2010-05-21, 05:31
Yeah, kind of. Why bother repainting the whole thing anyway, it doesn't change its function. On the other hand - it is just a little something to keep the memory of these as the late Soviet era machines and the key role they served. I suppose Mi -24 Hind also have these stars. Tell me if I am wrong.

Good remark anyway. ;-)

:-) ty

I'm just thinking those icons may be important during conflict in real life. A national icon tells the difference between enemies and allies,but doesn't matter in game :D

samogon100500
2010-05-21, 10:30
I noticed there's red star up on the christmas......no i mean there are red stars on the sides of both mi-8 and mi-17,don't red stars stand for USSR ?im just saying ,lol

Ми-17 never use in USSR!
It's export version of Mi8!

DankE_SPB
2010-05-21, 10:37
Ми-17 never use in USSR!
wrong
It's export designation of Mi8!

fixed

samogon100500
2010-05-21, 11:34
[QUOTE='[R-CON]DankE_SPB;1348799']wrong[QUOTE]

I never see Mi17!We(Airfield in my sity) have many Mi8 and no one Mi17!
it's use as Mi8MT
P.S. I wanna see Mi8ATShM on Beirut(1 respawn)

rough77
2010-05-21, 11:39
ARRRRR nice!
will you work on the HIND-E also?

DankE_SPB
2010-05-21, 12:36
I never see Mi17!We(Airfield in my sity) have many Mi8 and no one Mi17!
it's use as Mi8MT

facepalm.jpg

"Hinds were not used in USSR, only Mi-24" - analogy of your post

Mi-17 designation was given only due to commercial-advertisement needs and appeared when Mi-8MT was introduced to the west in Paris airshow in 1981, the difference between Mi-17 and brand new Mi-8MT- name and nothing more



MIL moscow helicopter plant, JSC (http://www.mi-helicopter.ru/eng/index.php?id=275)
In 1981 the Mi-8MT made its international debut at the 34th Paris Air Show. For advertising and marketing reasons the export version was allocated a new des­ignation, Mi-17, under which it has gained a foothold in the world market. A passenger version with an inte­rior similar to that of the Mi-8P was named Mi-17P. Like its predecessor, the baseline Mi-8MT served as a basis for developing numerous variants for various military and civil duties.
have fun reading

Maxfragg
2010-05-21, 12:37
I never see Mi17!We(Airfield in my sity) have many Mi8 and no one Mi17!
it's use as Mi8MT
P.S. I wanna see Mi8ATShM on Beirut(1 respawn)

the Mi8MT IS a Mi17 :-D

samogon100500
2010-05-21, 14:59
DankE_SPB;1348852']
"Hinds were not used in USSR, only Mi-24" - analogy of your post


Yes,i know about my bad english! :mrgreen:
Have fun!

EasyField
2010-05-23, 13:49
WOW! That's awesome!

canihitdat
2010-05-24, 01:53
DAMN This game is getting crazy!

Redamare
2010-05-24, 02:29
woot woot russian CAS :D haha ... seems to me like a lot more missles than needed ;D 80 missles? :P haha 20 per pod lol ... seems to me like they will have to fly alot faster than normal to stop from getting shot down :D

mongol-horde
2010-05-24, 02:54
I noticed there's red star up on the christmas......no i mean there are red stars on the sides of both mi-8 and mi-17,don't red stars stand for USSR ?im just saying ,lol

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/6918/1706208.jpg

red stars stay, but now they are surrounded with white and blue edging, thus using colours of russian flag. also army uses red banners with golden stars.

StiffyMagnum
2010-05-26, 07:30
nice job!

StiffyMagnum
2010-05-26, 07:31
i like it!

Web_cole
2010-05-26, 12:13
I say, that looks fantastic :D

Brainlaag
2010-05-26, 18:18
Yes,i know about my bad english! :mrgreen:
Have fun!

Ehhrmm I think he actually meant the codename for the Mi-24-->Hind, not your English :razz: LOL

Infantry1242
2010-05-31, 02:38
Will you guys make a Chinook that can hold tanks and jeeps and trucks?

Maxfragg
2010-05-31, 05:37
Will you guys make a Chinook that can hold tanks and jeeps and trucks?

you like to suggest impossible things, do you?

(in bf2 vehicles can not transport other vehicles)

samogon100500
2010-05-31, 05:39
you like to suggest impossible things, do you?

(in bf2 vehicles can not transport other vehicles)

It's possible!I see somewhere video of Georgian conflict mod,where thats use!

Wakain
2010-05-31, 10:30
has been suggested before, the dev's don't want to implement it as it would be too buggy

Tannhauser
2010-05-31, 11:28
Will you guys make a Chinook that can hold tanks and jeeps and trucks?
...........


No.

Feldwebel
2010-05-31, 13:37
how much rockets got that mi 17 support version ? 128?

samogon100500
2010-05-31, 13:53
how much rockets got that mi 17 support version ? 128?

Every block have 32 57mm rockets!

Feldwebel
2010-05-31, 15:04
lol that takes time to reload

but holy moly ! i cant wait for my first rocket supressing fire xD

MasterGypsy
2010-06-04, 18:58
I really like the detail on this. Nice work!

bloodcry223
2010-06-14, 21:00
I just felt in love with this mod. Awesome mode+ texture! I luv da dev team. :P

alec89
2010-06-21, 03:34
Very nice. I like the detail inside and outside, its great!

alec89
2010-06-21, 03:43
Ehhrmm I think he actually meant the codename for the Mi-24-->Hind, not your English :razz: LOL

Hind is the NATO reporting name of Mi-24, thats why its confusing to him cuz we dont use that, we call them just Mi 24 :D

edit: sry double post.

field-ops.
2010-06-21, 04:26
you know ive always wondered why the rear landing gear is shorter than the front on the Mi-8

reaper123167
2010-07-02, 17:12
can't wait to fly those! except that I'll get shot down or crash within a minute :|

blackhatch46
2010-07-04, 20:20
128 rockets vs 14 rockets? :shock:
Anaway - UH1 faster that Mi8!

the huey is not faster than the mi-8. the huey is very very slow. especially loaded with weapons. i have seen a huey with normal crew (pilot, copilot, AO, crewchief) and fully loaded (Gau-17, Gau-19, and 14 rockets) disappear off the side of the ship before gaining enough power and fwd air speed to stay up. they are very slow and very underpowered. you cant really compare the two helos, the mi-8 is a medium utility helo and the huey is a light utility helo.

blackhatch46
2010-07-04, 20:21
you like to suggest impossible things, do you?

(in bf2 vehicles can not transport other vehicles)

a chinook cant lift a tank IRL anyways!

sakils2
2010-07-04, 22:16
you like to suggest impossible things, do you?

(in bf2 vehicles can not transport other vehicles)

O RLY?

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Kaurava
2010-07-05, 02:09
O RLY?

(awesome vid)

When did they manage that?
This is just great!

Rudd
2010-07-05, 02:15
they did it via python coding, I've had a go with it and its quite impressive, but at the risk of causing offense to anyone, its the only part of their mod that I found impressive at all.

Rhino
2010-07-05, 06:18
a chinook cant lift a tank IRL anyways!

A special Aluminium Tank such as the M551 Sheridan yes, but it can't lift a normal MBT.


Rudd;1382613']they did it via python coding, I've had a go with it and its quite impressive, but at the risk of causing offense to anyone, its the only part of their mod that I found impressive at all.

Main reason why is we just don't really want or need it and its a bit buggy on dedicated servers too. "Causing Offence" to that mod is the least of our worries since they claim if we did use that code we would be some how "Stealing there idea", other than in there mod you see things like Deployable Objects and many of "PR's Ideas" in there :roll:

blackhatch46
2010-07-05, 17:00
Rhino;1382677']A special Aluminium Tank such as the M551 Sheridan yes, but it can't lift a normal MBT.




Main reason why is we just don't really want or need it and its a bit buggy on dedicated servers too. "Causing Offence" to that mod is the least of our worries since they claim if we did use that code we would be some how "Stealing there idea", other than in there mod you see things like Deployable Objects and many of "PR's Ideas" in there :roll:

no sir, you are still wrong. a chinook can not lift 33,510 pounds. matter of fact even a shitter (CH-53E) cant lift that. so no regular use military helo could lift that weight. maybe the soecial skycranes, but i dont even know if they are in use anymore. i knonw they arent in the Marines because im in and work on helos.

Rhino
2010-07-05, 18:33
no sir, you are still wrong. a chinook can not lift 33,510 pounds. matter of fact even a shitter (CH-53E) cant lift that. so no regular use military helo could lift that weight. maybe the soecial skycranes, but i dont even know if they are in use anymore. i knonw they arent in the Marines because im in and work on helos.

I stand corrected, it was made to be airlifted by aircraft like the C-130 and not by choppers.

AirForcePilot88
2010-07-06, 02:58
Looks great should be a good addition to the game