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dbzao
2009-12-28, 05:02
Almost a month ago I posted (https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f196-pr-highlights/71411-social-become-fan-pr-facebook-special-sneak-peak.html) about Project Reality's Official Facebook page (http://facebook.com/realitymod) (and Twitter page (http://twitter.com/realitymod)).

In that post I mentioned a special sneak peak photo album of the russian desert kits and the BTR-80, and many of you saw the pictures and became fans on Facebook.

I feel that these pictures can now be shared with the general community so I posted them bellow (click for higher resolution).

Of course, feel free to become a fan of PR on Facebook (http://facebook.com/realitymod) and follow PR on Twitter (http://twitter.com/realitymod), as all the news, blogs, events and highlights are automatically posted on those sites for all to stay in touch with PR's updates.

As credits go, this is the work of a bunch of R-DEVs and R-CONs so I will give it to the team ;)

http://imgur.com/AzS4Sl.jpg (http://imgur.com/AzS4S.jpg)
http://imgur.com/yQMBGl.jpg (http://imgur.com/yQMBG.jpg)
http://imgur.com/TJz0Hl.jpg (http://imgur.com/TJz0H.jpg)
http://imgur.com/n2Sn2l.jpg (http://imgur.com/n2Sn2.jpg)
http://imgur.com/DfkwEl.jpg (http://imgur.com/DfkwE.jpg)
http://imgur.com/61uqEl.jpg (http://imgur.com/61uqE.jpg)
http://imgur.com/7EXIrl.jpg (http://imgur.com/7EXIr.jpg)
http://imgur.com/yNDM1l.jpg (http://imgur.com/yNDM1.jpg)
http://imgur.com/fz6jfl.jpg (http://imgur.com/fz6jf.jpg)
http://imgur.com/HbAcil.jpg (http://imgur.com/HbAci.jpg)
http://imgur.com/jVKqql.jpg (http://imgur.com/jVKqq.jpg)
http://imgur.com/1o9Ehl.jpg (http://imgur.com/1o9Eh.jpg)
http://imgur.com/P5txQl.jpg (http://imgur.com/P5txQ.jpg)
http://imgur.com/rM0dxl.jpg (http://imgur.com/rM0dx.jpg)
http://imgur.com/UqUn7l.jpg (http://imgur.com/UqUn7.jpg)
http://imgur.com/S13Tjl.jpg (http://imgur.com/S13Tj.jpg)
http://imgur.com/5rGOQl.jpg (http://imgur.com/5rGOQ.jpg)
http://imgur.com/JHjZtl.jpg (http://imgur.com/JHjZt.jpg)
http://imgur.com/Onxcel.jpg (http://imgur.com/Onxce.jpg)
http://imgur.com/WAOJNl.jpg (http://imgur.com/WAOJN.jpg)
http://imgur.com/xzo9yl.jpg (http://imgur.com/xzo9y.jpg)

Notice: the BTR-80 got a new desert texture since we took the pictures, like the one featured in this screenshot:

http://imgur.com/wWYSHl.jpg (http://imgur.com/wWYSH.jpg)

Darksidesix
2009-12-28, 05:08
Looks good I like it.... now only if the Helmets were desert would break up the silouette better.... BTW Since when did the Russians have Digital Camo??

Ironcomatose
2009-12-28, 05:25
Yeah i did a quick search and i couldnt find much about apparently new Russian desert camo. It looks a lot like MARPAT too. If its not to much to ask could someone hook me up with a link or something? Thanks :)

Darksidesix
2009-12-28, 05:27
Its funny how all these country's are taking up after the Canadians.....

dbzao
2009-12-28, 05:49
Going to quote Jaymz on this one:

Jaymz;1203309']In case anyone's wondering about the Russian desert camo,

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/503/big67866.jpg

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/2992/41d2b37ebace759f75dc.jpg

JacenSolo
2009-12-28, 06:34
Looks good!!

casiNo
2009-12-28, 06:59
awesome work as always!

DankE_SPB
2009-12-28, 07:03
awesomesauce:D

good sneak peak on one of the BTRs:roll:;-)
Its funny how all these country's are taking up after the Canadians.....
yeah, only canadians know how desert and digital camo looks like

WilsonPL
2009-12-28, 09:34
i want USI BMP2 : ( in PR

Aquiller
2009-12-28, 09:44
A.W.E.S.O.M.E.!

Will the chinese get desert camo at some point too?

Outlawz7
2009-12-28, 09:58
A.W.E.S.O.M.E.!

Will the chinese get desert camo at some point too?

They already have since 0.8, they just don't have a desert map to be featured on...

Rudd
2009-12-28, 10:01
Somone needs to get on and make a Chi Vs Russia map in the gobi desert now :D

Gore
2009-12-28, 10:08
Looks more and more like it's not coming from bf2. Really love it. Good work. Now you only need to fix the civy class for insurgents and my joy will be complete.

THE.FIST
2009-12-28, 10:12
Ohh looks so cool who did that ? :)

HangMan_
2009-12-28, 10:22
Rudd;1218381']Somone needs to get on and make a Chi Vs Russia map in the gobi desert now :D

Na im still rooting for a Chi vs Taliban map :D Afghanistan and China do share a border hehe. Regarding the textures, they are very nice guys ;)

Swat54swe
2009-12-28, 10:27
Awesome!!! :D

Sprats
2009-12-28, 10:30
does this means we gonna get maps like russia vs taliban?:O

THE.FIST
2009-12-28, 10:37
does this means we gonna get maps like russia vs taliban?:O

No but worst : the jews :)

Maxfragg
2009-12-28, 10:50
woot? russia vs IDF ? lol, could be funny

samogon100500
2009-12-28, 10:51
Russian marine corps?
BTR have on bort russian navy flag!
P.s i want:
BMP-2
T-80U
MI-24
PKP PECHENEG
good SVD model
Some AT system?RPG-7 with opticks or RPG-29(Or METIS)!!

-=Hk=-Cap.Geoffry
2009-12-28, 11:02
WOW this perfect , PRv0.9 is coming to perfect!

Adetter
2009-12-28, 11:13
Since they have desert camo and are fighting in desert enviroments,will they fight against Taliban? If they will do that,will it be AAS or Insurgency?

bosco_
2009-12-28, 11:14
Read the thread...

HunterMed
2009-12-28, 11:15
very nice!

what map is that?

Adetter
2009-12-28, 11:20
Are Jews IDF?

Rudd
2009-12-28, 11:21
Are Jews IDF?

IDF = israeli defence force

Adetter
2009-12-28, 11:23
I know that but are the nickname Jews the same thing as IDF?

THE.FIST
2009-12-28, 11:25
I know that but are the nickname Jews the same thing as IDF?

Nickname jews ahahahahahahahahaah
ahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahah ahahah
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhahaahahahahhahahahahaha :p

dude : \ What planet you are from >?

bosco_
2009-12-28, 11:27
Jøder - Wikipedia (http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B8der)

This should help you out.

Adetter
2009-12-28, 11:29
Ahhh,why didnt i think of that!?

THE.FIST
2009-12-28, 11:39
Ahhh,why didnt i think of that!?
man nothing personal but :)
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/2588/tomjew3copy.jpg

Taran
2009-12-28, 11:50
Why they didnt call it not IDF, but sth like "jewish army" :), maybe bcs that sounds funny :)
I really like, that russians now have desert uniform, and hope we will have some city maps :) that would be really nice.
Heeey how about to do Russia vs Georgia, georgian looks right like MEC in bf but in US uniform - this is real conflict. Even more real if include some black guys in georgian army, they had afroamerican mercenaries in their army.

Ricardo-SC
2009-12-28, 11:52
Very good work! I liked all the textures used, congratulations, I can not wait to see this in game! :wink:

THE.FIST
2009-12-28, 12:03
Yeah i did a quick search and i couldnt find much about apparently new Russian desert camo. It looks a lot like MARPAT too. If its not to much to ask could someone hook me up with a link or something? Thanks :)

i think it's new type of desert uniform
i also think russian army ordered it for some kind of new conflict they are going to make
http://en.beta.rian.ru/images/15648/84/156488487.jpg
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/503/big67866.jpg
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/2504/zifra.jpg
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/2992/41d2b37ebace759f75dc.jpg

DankE_SPB
2009-12-28, 12:20
THE.FIST;1218481']i think it's new type of desert uniform
i think russian army ordered it for some kind of new conflict they are going to make


you mean going to "enforce peace", dont ya?:-P

THE.FIST
2009-12-28, 12:26
you mean going to "enforce peace", dont ya?:-P
well russia is opfor :) so they can't enforce any peace since it on evil side :)

Cheditor
2009-12-28, 12:29
@Danke: Same thing isnt it?

The camo its self looks very nice, now all russia need to do is change them horrible helmets and we are good to go :P

Mad-Mike
2009-12-28, 12:30
looking very nice, good work

STORM-Mama
2009-12-28, 12:32
Map with Russia vs. IDF? Gotta say that's a very good way of showing us all the new stuff of these two factions. Looking forward to it.

ChiefRyza
2009-12-28, 12:37
Hey, PR doesn't have any "evil" or "good" sides. It never should, just factional warfare, politics and stereotypes ruin games for me (eg. Modern Warfare 2). A lot of people seriously don't know anything about Russia as a modern country.

DankE_SPB
2009-12-28, 12:46
THE.FIST;1218494']well russia is opfor :) so they can't enforce any peace

nononono, you missed the last politics trend, blufor are enforcing freedom , while we enforce peace:-)
evil side :)
join the dark side of the force:twisted:

in case anybody wants to see camo on ground
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8670/big67681.jpg (http://img695.imageshack.us/i/big67681.jpg/) http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/big67681.jpg/1/w600.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img695/big67681.jpg/1/)

horrible helmets
new helmets are already received by forces, those ugly egg-shaped SSh are slowly getting phased out and replaced by 6B series
ÍÈÈ Ñòàëè : Øëåìû (http://niistali.ru/pr_secure/shlem.htm)
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8514/big50922.th.jpg (http://img695.imageshack.us/i/big50922.jpg/)http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/6866/big67503.th.jpg (http://img705.imageshack.us/i/big67503.jpg/)http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/5076/big50993.th.jpg (http://img709.imageshack.us/i/big50993.jpg/)

Same thing isnt it?
same or not, war is war, no matter how you call it, we are just joking about political "interpretation" of it

Cheditor
2009-12-28, 12:51
New russian helmets look smexy and Danke i was trying to add to the joke but it seems i failed a bit there.

MonkeySoldier
2009-12-28, 12:52
Will the only Russian desert map(s) against the IDF?

DankE_SPB
2009-12-28, 12:53
Cheditor;1218513']New russian helmets look smexy and Danke i was trying to add to the joke but it seems i failed a bit there.

language barrier i guess:(

ZeeRo
2009-12-28, 13:05
THE.FIST;1218481']i think it's new type of desert uniform
i also think russian army ordered it for some kind of new conflict they are going to make


ahaha.lol.:)Most likely This camouflage for Russian frontier guards in Afghanistan...
hmm...Russian frontier guards ,it is quite good if there was such fraction:)...
p.s IMHO russian vs IDF delirium.
Instead of Jews or talibs or Chechens or USA... But as not Israel:-|
p.s.s ...As a whole new - nice))

rampo
2009-12-28, 13:10
woah fellas take it to the political debate section :).

But just gotta say the new skins look awesome

Amok@ndy
2009-12-28, 13:21
awesome :) but on which map did you made the screens ?

Antonyo
2009-12-28, 13:26
The new skins looks realy nice and what you can see of the map it is looking realy good too.

Can't wait for 0.9 :)

Hotrod525
2009-12-28, 13:37
Its funny how all these country's are taking up after the Canadians.....

Yeah, US, Russia, China... wich even paint there tank in DigCam:mad:

ZeeRo
2009-12-28, 13:43
All is good, but Jews against Russia me confuses:|... all come nearer to reality in a fashion, but why that only not conflicts:(

samogon100500
2009-12-28, 17:24
ahaha.lol.:)Most likely This camouflage for Russian frontier guards in Afghanistan...
hmm...Russian frontier guards ,it is quite good if there was such fraction:)...
p.s IMHO russian vs IDF delirium.
Instead of Jews or talibs or Chechens or USA... But as not Israel:-|
p.s.s ...As a whole new - nice))

+1 about Russans vs IDF!!!
If u wan't global conflict with jets,heli,tanks etc - make map with US(Army or marines) vs Russians!!!

Rudd
2009-12-28, 17:27
US(Army or marines) vs Russians!!!

it really is a shame that monchegorsk won't be released to the wider community

bosco_
2009-12-28, 17:32
Who says there won't be a map with Western BLUFOR vs. Russians? ;)

JERICHO777
2009-12-28, 17:52
YEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!

rangedReCon
2009-12-28, 18:29
Hmmmm I wonder if that is the new SVD...can't tell in the screens.

WilsonPL
2009-12-28, 18:37
Yeah its new model : >

Llama8p
2009-12-28, 19:25
I didn't know that they were active in Afghanistan

JSteger
2009-12-28, 19:25
/cry at the old SVD Model.

I are want new one!

ma21212
2009-12-28, 19:29
will they be fighting ins. or MEC?

1GeKKo3
2009-12-28, 19:34
Looks good, can't wait to see it on the battlefield

Brummy
2009-12-28, 19:36
Yeah its new model : >

No it isn't.

Anyway, who cares if Russia vs IDF is 'close to reality'. PR has no actual storyline, so meh, just play the game ;)

WilsonPL
2009-12-28, 20:13
ahh youre right :(

sakils2
2009-12-28, 20:16
I didn't know that they were active in Afghanistan

Because they aren't.

Tim270
2009-12-28, 20:32
Rudd;1218751']it really is a shame that monchegorsk won't be released to the wider community

Agreed, by far one of the best maps I have ever played.

Proceed
2009-12-28, 21:09
Pisdetz ! :)

Claymore
2009-12-28, 21:15
The day 0.9 is going to be released, many people will likely go on vacation. I'm afraid Al Quaeda might notice and synchronize their attacks with development of PR ;-)

Thanato
2009-12-29, 00:04
Wait a minute... I got that stuff hanging up in my closet... err sorry thats CADPAT... looks like they just copied the colours from both CADPAT and MARPAT (AR)

~Thanato

Meki
2009-12-29, 01:07
Looks Great, Awesome work as always.

Bringerof_D
2009-12-29, 02:03
Because they aren't.

arn't they? i recall a news story about russian troops trying to convince the afghan people that they arnt the same guys who invaded them before

also...looks nothing like marpat...looks more like Arid Cadpat

Nosferatu
2009-12-29, 03:56
Pisdetz ! :)

Watch your language, comrade)

SkaterCrush
2009-12-29, 04:06
The woodland vest looks good IRL but somethings off in PR. Just with the vest. The rest is pure win :D

Sprats
2009-12-29, 11:30
So... Are the russians going to get any air assets? Havoc is OK already, what about jets, trans helis? Also this might be off-topic but as far as i have heard, only russians going to get btr80s? Mec will have to stick with their old btr60s?...

Donni921
2009-12-29, 11:49
looks good^^

happycamper
2009-12-29, 17:59
Looks really good, awesome job =)

samogon100500
2009-12-29, 18:17
Pisdetz ! :)

This is not pisdetz!!!
Better if u say zaebis' :D

THE.FIST
2009-12-29, 22:01
This is not pisdetz!!!
Better if u say zaebis' :D
Пацанчики следите за базаром тут без понятий чисто
= guys watch your language :)

Kirra
2009-12-29, 22:56
dbzao;1218280']
[URL=http://imgur.com/WAOJNl.jpg]http://imgur.com/WAOJNl.jpg

Wtf! If i didn't know better I'd say that that is a screen shot from ArmA. Looks just like it!:-D

Kossolax
2009-12-30, 00:17
is there going to be a russian desert map to go along with it. Russia vs MEC maybe?

ZeeRo
2009-12-30, 06:38
is there going to be a russian desert map to go along with it. Russia vs MEC maybe?
...You probably had in view of Georgia:D

samogon100500
2009-12-30, 07:18
...You probably had in view of Georgia:D
+1!!!
THE.FIST;1220165']Пацанчики следите за базаром тут без понятий чисто
= guys watch your language :)

:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:

blinky123abc
2009-12-30, 07:53
a little off topic, but can i ask that the rpg7 for the russians is replaced by the rpg29 as the HAT

(In 2007, British officials confirmed that an RPG-29 round penetrated the frontal ERA and hull of a Challenger 2 tank during an engagement in al-Amarah, Iraq, wounding a crew member.
In May 2008, The New York Times disclosed that an American M1 tank had also been damaged by an RPG-29 in Iraq.)

and the Aks-74U replaced by the Ak105.

mongol-horde
2009-12-30, 08:11
(In 2007, British officials confirmed that an RPG-29 round penetrated the frontal ERA and hull of a Challenger 2 tank during an engagement in al-Amarah, Iraq, wounding a crew member.
In May 2008, The New York Times disclosed that an American M1 tank had also been damaged by an RPG-29 in Iraq.)



i hope those werent russians firing ;)

DankE_SPB
2009-12-30, 08:42
a little off topic, but can i ask that the rpg7 for the russians is replaced by the rpg29 as the HAT
no the HAT would be RPG-7 with tandem warhead, it is similar in its power to RPG-29, but has weaker engine, so it flies like a rock to distance of 150m


and the Aks-74U replaced by the Ak105.

very doubtful, too much effort for a little gain imo, and we have yet to see 10* series in service

Hellbrawler
2009-12-30, 09:12
If we do a Marines vs. Russian map, it's guaranteed I'll get some TKs. The uniforms looks sooo similiar from far distances!

Nosferatu
2009-12-30, 09:18
a little off topic, but can i ask that the rpg7 for the russians is replaced by the rpg29 as the HAT

We don't use RPG-29 in troops, right now it's just for export.
RPG-7 with large variety of rounds does his business well.

and the Aks-74U replaced by the Ak105.

In real life we supposed to have one AK-74S per vehicle, so having AKS-74U for each crewman is already simplification. Not talking about AK-105 which is not in service.

WilsonPL
2009-12-30, 09:22
We need few more things for Russian Forces:

1. USI BMP2
2. Rpg with scope
3. New smoke grenade

samogon100500
2009-12-30, 09:30
We need few more things for Russian Forces:

1. USI BMP2
2. Rpg with scope
3. New smoke grenade

1)Why USI???Czech BVP-2 - license copy of BMP-2!
2)+1:D
3)+1:D

WilsonPL
2009-12-30, 09:39
USI bmp2 is textured and imported in game etc. just need to reskin it.

http://usi.blacksandstudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/2_bmp2.jpg

bosco_
2009-12-30, 09:50
There is stuff that would need to be modified and added on the US:I model to make it the correct Russian version.

It's in the plans but probably not going to be included in 0.9.

TheAssProtectors.Nr1
2009-12-30, 10:18
Beautiful screens BTW! :)

WilsonPL
2009-12-30, 10:25
Just add it as placeholder for now : >
You have added Btr60 for Russians so i dont see a problem :razz:

DankE_SPB
2009-12-30, 10:27
Just add it as placeholder for now : >
You have added Btr60 for Russians so i dont see a problem :razz:

meh, i vote for BMP-3 as a placeholder:razz:

hiberNative
2009-12-30, 10:49
http://i.imgur.com/7EXIrl.jpg

man, the vest part of the model looks a lot less detailed than the new, american counterpart (https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f196-pr-highlights/71877-kits-u-s-army.html) :\

dbzao
2009-12-30, 10:54
Because the american kits in those screens are from 3DS not in-game ;)

bosco_
2009-12-30, 10:56
Shh, don't crush the dreams of a Western conspiracy to make the Russians look dull.

DankE_SPB
2009-12-30, 11:00
bosco;1220559']Shh, don't crush the dreams of a Western conspiracy to make the Russians look dull.

man, if you would know how much people think like this on russian forums :(

Maxfragg
2009-12-30, 11:15
unfortunately I do know, but hey, never mind, their just as many stupid ideas about Arabs around

dbzao
2009-12-30, 11:22
man, if you would know how much people think like this on russian forums :(

Yea, they are probably right after all the work involved in the faction (weapons, vehicles, kits, sounds, etc). :roll:

We hear that kind of thing from lots of places, even my brazilian countrymen that don't have anything to do with it. :|

Brummy
2009-12-30, 11:42
man, if you would know how much people think like this on russian forums :(

The DEVs could've simply made the new Russian kits later ;), the Russians have one of the best looking kit geometries atm, and damn it is feckin badass.

hiberNative
2009-12-30, 11:57
dbzao;1220557']Because the american kits in those screens are from 3DS not in-game ;)
i wouldn't know about this 3DS.

and i will believe the conspiracy against the russians until i get a proper scope picture on the svd :3

IEDmagnet580
2009-12-30, 21:20
who cares whether they go against the IDF or not. It is a soldier's job to fight no matter what politics are behind the war ;)

Bagger
2009-12-30, 23:16
looks sick, seems u have a russian desert map ready too :P? Taliban? awesome work
reminds me of the movie 'the 9th company'

RELEASE_THE_KRAKEN
2009-12-31, 00:07
Oh man this brings back memories of mujaheddin again.

ReadMenace
2009-12-31, 00:22
http://i.imgur.com/7EXIrl.jpg

man, the vest part of the model looks a lot less detailed than the new, american counterpart (https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f196-pr-highlights/71877-kits-u-s-army.html) :\

Step one: Procure 3D Modeling Program (3dsmax, Maya, Blender, etc.)
Step two: Make your own GRAD-2
Step three: Profit.

The US Army kits have the benefit of using modular gear (MOLLE), which allowed us to focus more attention on individual pieces of kit. In discussion regarding the GRAD-2, it was determined that we could not simply texture the apron-base on the soldier models (See Sniper, Marksman and Automatic Rifleman Kits), and thus had to model a complete GRAD-2. Because of the GRAD-2's design, even the extremely stripped-down version that ended up being used weighed in at 413 triangles.

Furthermore, nobody seemed to mind the default BF2 kit geometries until they saw that there was a better way -- don't look a gift horse in the mouf. :wink:

-REad

Tte.oteo
2009-12-31, 08:15
awesome photos and good work¡¡¡

alec89
2010-01-01, 00:24
THE.FIST;1218400']No but worst : the jews :)

Russia vs IDF? For serious?! That should be great, not that it would happen in real life :D
0.9 is going to be AWESOME!

Gammlgandalf13
2010-01-02, 11:33
Good work man.

HardcoreCook
2010-01-02, 11:59
arn't they? i recall a news story about russian troops trying to convince the afghan people that they arnt the same guys who invaded them before



Those were the Polish.
Polish and Russian sounds quite allike.
Yes, i watched the Autumn of Change on CNN as well...

mongol-horde
2010-01-02, 13:12
dont afganis call russians - soviets(shuravi), unlike our educated western friends who never made difference?

Russia vs IDF? For serious?! That should be great, not that it would happen in real life :D
0.9 is going to be AWESOME!

of course better than russia vs canada, though... how many jews?... about 1/4 in israel speak russian, as far as i know.

Outlawz7
2010-01-02, 14:58
dont afganis call russians - soviets(shuravi), unlike our educated western friends who never made difference?

of course better than russia vs canada, though... how many jews?... about 1/4 in israel speak russian, as far as i know.

Can you provide a source on that? :|

DankE_SPB
2010-01-02, 15:05
Outlawz;1223124']Can you provide a source on that? :|

about shuravis? its a common well known thing
about Israel, ask Fist or Zzez, wiki says 20%

alec89
2010-01-02, 18:20
Outlawz;1223124']Can you provide a source on that? :|

Theres alot of russian speaking people in Israel. Russian is probably the 3rd most spoken language in Israel after Hebrew and arabic. I was there, I know.

legolars996
2010-01-02, 23:40
i think the game starts to look like ArmA :/
not that its bad :-D

M.Banys
2010-01-02, 23:54
Damn, Russians look more like ISAF forces in Afghanistan than Agressive post soviet army...

Rudd
2010-01-02, 23:55
Theres alot of russian speaking people in Israel. Russian is probably the 3rd most spoken language in Israel after Hebrew and arabic. I was there, I know.

makes sense after so many fled after WW2

my own Jewish heritige is from Poland and Russia, those that survived, well their decendants anyway, now live in tel aviv.

Solver
2010-01-03, 00:49
It's not just about WW2. The Russian-speaking Israelis are, largely, immigrants from the USSR from ~20 years ago. With the Soviet borders becoming fairly open, and the USSR collapsing completely a few years later, many Jews moved to Israel. And that was preceded by a wave of Soviet Jews moving in the seventies, despite many potential immigrants being refused the ability to do so.

Anyhow, at least a million Jews from the Soviet Union moved to Israel, so definitely, Russian speakers in Israel are common.

alec89
2010-01-03, 02:16
It's not just about WW2. The Russian-speaking Israelis are, largely, immigrants from the USSR from ~20 years ago. With the Soviet borders becoming fairly open, and the USSR collapsing completely a few years later, many Jews moved to Israel. And that was preceded by a wave of Soviet Jews moving in the seventies, despite many potential immigrants being refused the ability to do so.

Anyhow, at least a million Jews from the Soviet Union moved to Israel, so definitely, Russian speakers in Israel are common.

Well, also many russian jews fled Russian empire(Pre 1918 ). Mainly due to pogroms.

Feriluce
2010-01-03, 04:16
Well, also many russian jews fled Russian empire(Pre 1918 ). Mainly due to pogroms.

Israel didn't actually exist back then though.

alec89
2010-01-03, 05:06
Israel didn't actually exist back then though.

I think it was British mandate of Palestine then. They settled in jewish communities.

mongol-horde
2010-01-03, 22:26
I know that but are the nickname Jews the same thing as IDF?

lol, cute, last time i called idf jews here i got a warn for racism :) so idf is a racial thing... though... do they take non-jews into idf? :))

dbzao;1218280']
http://imgur.com/DfkwEl.jpg

2 launchers?

Solver
2010-01-03, 23:02
IDF soldiers are mostly Jews but there's also a fair number of non-Jews serving. Israeli Arabs do not, in practice, have an obligation to serve and most don't, but there's a number of them in the IDF.

DankE_SPB
2010-01-04, 13:04
2 launchers?
say hello to bf2 engine, its not different atm

=]H[= JakCurse
2010-01-04, 15:38
lol, cute, last time i called idf jews here i got a warn for racism :) so idf is a racial thing... though... do they take non-jews into idf? :))



2 launchers?

Have you never noticed the US troops with two SRAW's?

CarnivorousVulgaris
2010-01-04, 16:01
They look pretty amazing to me. Hope to see them in .9! Keep up the good work DEVS

myles
2010-01-04, 23:02
Wheres that map supposed to be ?

ReadMenace
2010-01-04, 23:07
2 launchers?

A more verbose response --

Because the BF2 engine does not allow for weapons to be dynamically slung on the player model (See: ARMA, ARMA2, Call Of Duty: 4+) we must have a way of denoting players carrying heavy weapons so that they can be identified at range (It is unreasonable to simply allow a HAT gunner to conceal himself by switching to his PDW knife, or other weapon.)

-REad

SgtDil
2010-01-07, 15:51
Is that a new APC? :) or just a remake of the BTR :(

Outlawz7
2010-01-07, 15:54
Is that a new APC? :) or just a remake of the BTR :(

lol...
BTR-80 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BTR-80)

Guard81
2010-01-07, 16:22
Excellent work with the new camo! Keep up the good work.

DankE_SPB
2010-01-07, 16:57
while we are at russian camo, MoD placed tender for bulk deliveries(hundreds of thousands) of new digital flora camo in 2010, both winter and summer kits
source:link (http://zakupki.gov.ru/Tender/ViewPurchase.aspx?PurchaseId=653985)
refs:
winter
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/8372/img2467c.th.jpg (http://img109.imageshack.us/i/img2467c.jpg/)http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/515/img2466m.th.jpg (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/img2466m.jpg/)http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/8342/img2501k.th.jpg (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/img2501k.jpg/)http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9725/img2479k.th.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/img2479k.jpg/)http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/7303/img2461yx.th.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/img2461yx.jpg/)http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6171/img2543ao.th.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/img2543ao.jpg/)http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/9229/img2530x.th.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/img2530x.jpg/)http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5691/img2502w.th.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/img2502w.jpg/)http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3261/img2542v.th.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/img2542v.jpg/)http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3456/img2544n.th.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/img2544n.jpg/)

summer
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4184/img2509r.th.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/img2509r.jpg/)http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1083/img2533q.th.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/img2533q.jpg/)http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/3904/img2491l.th.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/img2491l.jpg/)http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/8250/img2486v.th.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/img2486v.jpg/)http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8667/img2508n.th.jpg (http://img690.imageshack.us/i/img2508n.jpg/)http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/9262/img2569.th.jpg (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/img2569.jpg/)http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/6991/img2549dj.th.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/img2549dj.jpg/)http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/7906/img2547nk.th.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/i/img2547nk.jpg/)http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/6843/img2545w.th.jpg (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/img2545w.jpg/)http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/6443/img2566v.th.jpg (http://img690.imageshack.us/i/img2566v.jpg/)

dustinxmolnar
2010-01-10, 20:42
I think you guys should add in the Bizon as a Russian weapon.

gazzthompson
2010-01-10, 20:58
I think you guys should add in the Bizon as a Russian weapon.

im no expert on Russian weaponry in anyway but:

Modern Firearms - Bizon (Bison) submachine gun (http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg08-e.htm)

Bizon submachine guns are in limited use with Russian security and law enforcement forces.

seems like it has no place in PR.

alec89
2010-01-11, 02:56
im no expert on Russian weaponry in anyway but:

Modern Firearms - Bizon (Bison) submachine gun (http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg08-e.htm)



seems like it has no place in PR.

But isnt bizon the weapon the MEC have as AT kit in BF2?
But still its ugly, imo. They should keep the one now and just add an optical scope like the american.

Nosferatu
2010-01-11, 04:13
But isnt bizon the weapon the MEC have as AT kit in BF2?

Vanilla MEC just used all kinds of shiny Russian toys, like Saiga-12K which is not in use by Russian army at all (so as any other shotguns actually).

But still its ugly, imo.

UMP-45 is uglier)

Conman51
2010-01-11, 04:36
But isnt bizon the weapon the MEC have as AT kit in BF2?
But still its ugly, imo. They should keep the one now and just add an optical scope like the american.

BF2 also used the M24 for the Marines sniper, the Black Hawk, the Linebacker AA....BF2 did lots of military accuracy mess ups, dont trust it

alec89
2010-01-11, 06:31
Nosferatu;1230752']Vanilla MEC just used all kinds of shiny Russian toys, like Saiga-12K which is not in use by Russian army at all (so as any other shotguns actually).



UMP-45 is uglier)

Also true :P

mongol-horde
2010-01-11, 07:51
pecheneg could be a times juicier piece of ... weaponry ;)
most likely because i dont like pkm look and fail at aiming/hitting with it :)

edyR3c0rd
2010-01-11, 12:37
pecheneg could be a times juicier piece of ... weaponry ;)
most likely because i dont like pkm look and fail at aiming/hitting with it :)

yeah, i would defenetly play more MG role if pkm were replaced by pecheneg:-)

=]H[= JakCurse
2010-01-11, 13:10
ReadMenace;1225134']A more verbose response --

Because the BF2 engine does not allow for weapons to be dynamically slung on the player model (See: ARMA, ARMA2, Call Of Duty: 4+) we must have a way of denoting players carrying heavy weapons so that they can be identified at range (It is unreasonable to simply allow a HAT gunner to conceal himself by switching to his PDW knife, or other weapon.)

-REad

I assume that every avenue has already been probed, but would it not be feasible to have a HAT appear on the back of the trooper in the style we have currently whenever he has anything EXCEPT his HAT out?

Sniper77shot
2010-01-14, 00:05
Looks good.

edyR3c0rd
2010-01-15, 23:04
i know that russian faction don't use shootguns and there is problem with breaching slugs. maybe we should add new breaching system with stock(приклад) breaching. i think that would be more realistick. or add sawn-off shotgun.

tommytgun
2010-01-16, 02:10
cant wait. does this mean new russian maps?

alec89
2010-01-16, 02:52
cant wait. does this mean new russian maps?

Yap. Russia gets Beirut(IDF vs RUS), which is why there is this desert camo. And Silent Eagle(US vs Russia).

rushn
2010-01-17, 23:07
I know they have the new BTR-82 and BTR-82A coming out know they are a deep upgrade to BTR-80 since the russian military did not like BTR-90

themartini
2010-01-18, 02:24
Does that BTR happen to have a TOW on the front?
Or is this a nooby question?

Meza82
2010-01-18, 03:12
Yap. Russia gets Beirut(IDF vs RUS), which is why there is this desert camo. And Silent Eagle(US vs Russia).

IDF vs RUSSIA?!?! omg awsome! at first i was like "Russia is fighting in the mid-East?"

but IDF vs Russia in Beruit is realistic enough and so cool! omg i cant wait

alec89
2010-01-18, 03:15
IDF vs RUSSIA?!?! omg awsome! at first i was like "Russia is fighting in the mid-East?"

but IDF vs Russia in Beruit is realistic enough and so cool! omg i cant wait

Actually its not realistic at all... lol. I cant see IDF fighting Russia, ever. xD. Russia is the placeholder in Beirut for Hizbollah for now I think.

alec89
2010-01-18, 03:21
Does that BTR happen to have a TOW on the front?
Or is this a nooby question?

BTRs normally have 14.5 mm mg(heavy) and 7.62mm(light), thats it. Its the BMP that has the ATGM(anti tank guided missile), in american "TOW". :)

Nosferatu
2010-01-18, 15:24
BTR-90 has ATGM "Korent", with all this firepower it became friggin wheeled IFV, not APC.

And MoD is OK with BTR-90, except it's kind of expensive, modernized BTR-80 and BTR-80A are way cheaper.

DankE_SPB
2010-01-18, 15:31
Nosferatu;1236472']
And MoD is OK with BTR-90, except it's kind of expensive, modernized BTR-80 and BTR-80A are way cheaper.

isnt it being redone with new engine(to unify it with BMP-3 and other vehicles), layout(we may finally see BTR with entrance at back) and reduce it costs? while the 82 series is to fill the gap before "new" 90 will arrive?

mongol-horde
2010-01-18, 15:54
Actually its not realistic at all... lol. I cant see IDF fighting Russia, ever. xD. Russia is the placeholder in Beirut for Hizbollah for now I think.

http://visualrian.ru/storage/PreviewWM/1366/34/136634.jpg?1162227900
http://visualrian.ru/storage/PreviewWM/1366/33/136633.jpg?1162227840

couldn't the scenario turn into smth like with american aid transported exclusively onboard of aircraft carriers.

alec89
2010-01-18, 17:37
couldn't the scenario turn into smth like with american aid transported exclusively onboard of aircraft carriers.

But russians are attacking from the sea this time. Anyway IDF vs Russia is just not realistic cuz its a world power vs a regional middle eastern power. But Israel, I dont think it would really do much to Russia. Compare Russia's size and army to Israel's. Israel is even smaller than Georgia. So the point is that its not realistic, but its interesting to see it play out in a virtual warfare. I'm looking forward to the Beirut map :)

mongol-horde
2010-01-18, 17:44
finland also was not big sized and heavily armed.

alec89
2010-01-18, 17:59
finland also was not big sized and heavily armed.

That WAS, but not the same now. Right now there are some developed toys, ballistic missiles, laser guided missiles, anti air, anti tank, nukes.... all kinds of sick ****.

Desertfox287
2010-01-18, 20:16
Looks good, nice to see that the Russians have desert camo now. Can't wait to play on maps with IDF and Russia battling it out. .9 is gonna be amazing

mongol-horde
2010-01-18, 20:40
That WAS, but not the same now. Right now there are some developed toys, ballistic missiles, laser guided missiles, anti air, anti tank, nukes.... all kinds of sick ****.

yes, yes, in 1939 soviet army was also quite developed and dominating finnish. not much changed since then really. there was a period after ww2, but it ended after soviet troops left afghanistan. underestimating your opponent is a mistake, and it is much worse if you do it being in bad shape, when also affected by your glorious past.

alec89
2010-01-18, 21:11
yes, yes, in 1939 soviet army was also quite developed and dominating finnish. not much changed since then really. there was a period after ww2, but it ended after soviet troops left afghanistan. underestimating your opponent is a mistake, and it is much worse if you do it being in bad shape, when also affected by your glorious past.

Lol, what do you mean nothing has changed? Weapons changed, new, more destructive weapons came, better planes and more powerful. There is nothing to underestimate. Its just laughable to think that there is a potential of Russia vs Israel. First of all, they dont have a reason to, second it would be severely unbalanced.

Lets not get political now.

mongol-horde
2010-01-18, 21:28
mb you'd remember an example of russian tanks compared with georgian upgraded by jews? once again, unlearnt lessons of winter war... or... 'british do not clean their rifle barrels with brick dust'...

alec89
2010-01-18, 21:30
mb you'd remember an example of russian tanks compared with georgian upgraded by jews? once again, unlearnt lessons of winter war... or... british do not clean their rifle barrels with brick dust...

Whats to compare? Our tanks still owned georgian tanks. We had georgian army hiding in tbilisi after 5 days of battle and had air superiority in couple of hours. Their Su-25s were also upgraded by Israel on behalf of US. and? xD

Big Lebowski
2010-01-18, 21:35
BF2 also used the M24 for the Marines sniper, the Black Hawk, the Linebacker AA....BF2 did lots of military accuracy mess ups, dont trust it
Not to mention the whole MEC thing. PR dosent seem to have any probs with that though. As long as you just arm them with H&K its way rEalisTic! ;-)

ReadMenace
2010-01-18, 21:44
Awesome discussion regarding Russ desert uni's please. Everything else is OT.

-REad

usmcjonesey79
2010-01-20, 02:30
actually, the canadians revived something older than you think

Dual Texure (Dual-Tex) U.S. Army Digital Camouflage History (http://www.uniteddynamics.com/dualtex/) dual texture camo was designed by a retired us army officer......very neat website and and canada helped the marines design are MARPAT so copy? nah, just moved to a more effective camo pattern

Bluedrake42
2010-01-20, 05:38
ooo pretty russian people hahaha

Bluedrake42
2010-01-20, 18:09
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm are taliban gonna get camo? =D hahaha cause our red/blue head thingies are like big flashing targets hahaha

rushn
2010-01-21, 00:11
I heard the troops disliked the BTR-90 so thats why they are switching to BTr-82 and BTR-82A but having a new redesigned and modernized BTR-90 would be sweet instead of the BTR-80 shell. I just hope they have new BTR version. Because from what it looks like it seems that in the game it is the old BTR-80:(

I hope the Russians get new BTR-90 soon

Also i know the BTR-90 has thicker armor then a stryker especially the front sides and the front.

mangeface
2010-01-21, 05:22
Hmm...everyone is switching to digital camo patterns after the Marines came out with the MARPAT.

ReadMenace
2010-01-21, 06:03
Hmm...everyone is switching to digital camo patterns after the Canadians came out with theCADPAT.

Fixed that to be correct. :lol:

-REad

master of the templars
2010-01-21, 06:22
At least the Marines pretended to not be copying the Canadians, this just looks like the Russians bought some MARPAT basically lol

Dr_Wycior
2010-01-21, 06:24
Funny fact about digital camo:
http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff166/ar15reloader/cadpat-us-variations.jpg

I was told that user was banned for posting this picture on another forum.

alec89
2010-01-21, 06:39
At least the Marines pretended to not be copying the Canadians, this just looks like the Russians bought some MARPAT basically lol

Actually russians designed their own, it just happens to look similar. Thats all.
We dont need to buy someone's uniforms. We make our own military stuff. So there :D

rushn
2010-01-21, 19:46
Russian camo looks completely different http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/picture-62.png

it looks diffrent and nothing like MARPAT

H.sta
2010-01-21, 20:13
I believe he is talking about the Desert MARPAT...

Jaymz
2010-01-21, 21:36
Alrighty.......