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duckhunt
2009-12-26, 14:47
[R-Dev] Bosco has kindly provided these in game screenshots and encouraged me to show all you guys the new US mainbase on Fallujah. It has been a discussed topic here about the poorly defendable current main base. And this new Establishment, located in the South West of the map, should change the map dynamic, for the better. Its pretty cramped in there with a full vehicle loadout, but should provide a solid safehaven for US forces on Fallujah West map in 0.9.

Along with slight tweaks around the map, and the new Pavements/Sidewalks (depending on where your from) Should give this map fresh playability in the next release.

The last 2 show the current US main, which is now the insurgent main.

+ Excuse the mirrored USMC flag ;)


http://i45.tinypic.com/123leh1.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/2l2ruo.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/2euu3rn.jpg
http://i46.tinypic.com/111jew7.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/2wpmcut.jpg
http://i49.tinypic.com/2vtzf28.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/35ko5eq.jpg
http://i50.tinypic.com/dy88pl.jpg



Happy New year, and heres to 2010, where PR will carry on advancing in all respects, including more detailed environments, this is just the tip of the iceburg of work from PR mappers. ;)

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g270/duckhunt101/wallssss.jpg


Much Love, Duckhunt x

Amok@ndy
2009-12-26, 14:48
great job :)

alexaus
2009-12-26, 14:49
Awsome !!!! hopefully putting an end to the constant base rape this map has gone though for so long

Dr Rank
2009-12-26, 14:50
Awesome work mate, as usual!

Bamtoman
2009-12-26, 14:52
An Abram o.o?
I think the Insurgents are gonna owned by heat rounds

MonkeySoldier
2009-12-26, 14:52
Could it be that this thread disappeared for a minute, Duckhunt? :P Looking really good over there. :D

Will the USMC get their VBF2 LAV-25 model replaced by a new model, or that AAVP7A1?

Keep up the good work, Duckhunt!

Psyrus
2009-12-26, 14:58
Wow so many new things... Love what you've done (the subtle changes):

- Supply crate in teh back of the logi, makes a lot more sense as the current 'empty' model posed the question, why can't I get some guys sitting in there? ;)

- Looks like a mobile ammo technical, should be very good and make the insurgency mode a fair bit more interesting

- Blue dots on the map. I think it was really lacking these in 0.8x :D

Zi8
2009-12-26, 15:02
I hope that tank is not removed after the beta testers + devs have had enough fun driving it around the Fallujah :D

Looking good, gives some fresh gameplay for that map.

Brummy
2009-12-26, 15:05
The new Fallujah's a lot more fun :) Good job as usual duck :D

Anhkhoa
2009-12-26, 15:08
The insurgents kinda suck at keeping things clean back at the old US main...And
Do we get to keep the tank?

Rangu
2009-12-26, 15:12
Looks great!


The insurgents kinda suck at keeping things clean back at the old US main...And
Do we get to keep the tank?

I believe so, as the map was originally intended to have a tank.

SWIZZ=kettcar=
2009-12-26, 15:17
looks great, awesome work, i love it, hell jeah!

Snazz
2009-12-26, 15:19
Looks awesome, good work Duckhunt.

foxtwofive
2009-12-26, 15:20
:)Great Job! Sweet USMC gets a M1A1!?

Drunkenup
2009-12-26, 15:21
Could it be that this thread disappeared for a minute, Duckhunt? :P Looking really good over there. :D

Will the USMC get their VBF2 LAV-25 model replaced by a new model, or that AAVP7A1?

Keep up the good work, Duckhunt!

As the Bradley is to represent the US Army's small involvment in Fallujah, the LAV-25s are really the ones that are to be replaced.

Looks insane, I cannot wait to stick a few HEAT rounds into some buildings with that Abrams. Amazing new main, I can finally walk out of it without being raped for once.

Spec
2009-12-26, 15:22
Yay, blue dots :D

Will the crate disappear once deployed? Like the bombs on planes? Could be useful.

Salmonella
2009-12-26, 15:31
The main bases place were just switched or we have other changes?

Maybe you could add a minimap to give us a better sight of the picture...

FuzzySquirrel
2009-12-26, 15:36
No Tusk? Laaaaaaaame :p

and I love the new walls in the last pic

foxtwofive
2009-12-26, 15:47
No Tusk? Laaaaaaaame :p

and I love the new walls in the last pic

In RL USMC dosen't have Tusk kits on their M1's :wink:

MonkeySoldier
2009-12-26, 15:53
As the Bradley is to represent the US Army's small involvment in Fallujah, the LAV-25s are really the ones that are to be replaced.

No, I mean the model itself, the vanilla one, whether it'll get replaced by a new LAV 25 model, or it'll be fully replaced by the AAVP7A1.

Anhkhoa
2009-12-26, 16:03
In RL USMC dosen't have Tusk kits on their M1's :wink:

But the tank does not belong to the Marine Corps. It (appears to be) replacing one of the Bradleys in our current version of PR. The Bradley's represent the Army's involvement in Fallujah. Soez..we can haz TUSK pl0x?

FuzzySquirrel
2009-12-26, 16:11
In RL USMC dosen't have Tusk kits on their M1's :wink:

I kno, but I'm sure the Armor support from the Army wasn't limited to the Bradleys.

foxtwofive
2009-12-26, 16:14
But the tank does not belong to the Marine Corps. It (appears to be) replacing one of the Bradleys in our current version of PR. The Bradley's represent the Army's involvement in Fallujah. Soez..we can haz TUSK pl0x?

OK,Then to who dose to M1A1 belong to? The Bradley represents the US Armys' involvement in Fallujah. Plus this this map is based on the Nov 2004 Phantom Fury Operation as i recall. So M1A1 belongs to the USMC(I might be wrong)

Snazz
2009-12-26, 16:24
But the tank does not belong to the Marine Corps.
It (appears to be) replacing one of the Bradleys in our current version of PR. The Bradley's represent the Army's involvement in Fallujah.
It doesn't matter what it is replacing. It is a Marine M1A1, they were used in Fallujah IRL.

http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/Assets/Still/2006/Marines/DM-SD-06-03753.JPG
A US Marine Corps (USMC) Marine M1A1 Abrams Main Battle Tank (MBT), 2nd Tank Battalion (BN), fires it main gun into a building to provide suppressive counter fire against insurgents who fired on other USMC Marines during a fire fight in Fallujah, Al Anbar Province, Iraq. These Marines are participating in Operation AL FAJR, which is an offensive operation conducted against Iraqi insurgent forces as part of a Security and Stabilization Operation (SASO) carried out during Operation IRAQI FREEDOM.
Still Asset Details for DMSD0603753 (http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/DVIC_View/Still_Details.cfm?SDAN=DMSD0603753&JPGPath=/Assets/Still/2006/Marines/DM-SD-06-03753.JPG)

http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/Assets/Still/2006/Marines/DM-SD-06-03741.JPG
Two US Marine Corps (USMC) M1A1 Abrams Main Battle Tanks (MBT), Bravo Company (B Co.), 1st Battalion (BN), 8th Marine Regiment (1/8), 1st Marine Division (MARDIV), fire their main guns at suspected insurgent strongholds in Fallujah, Al Anbar Province, Iraq, while participating in a Security and Stabilization Operation (SASO) carried out during Operation IRAQI FREEDOM.
http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/DVIC_View/Still_Details.cfm?SDAN=DMSD0603741&JPGPath=/Assets/Still/2006/Marines/DM-SD-06-03741.JPG

duckhunt
2009-12-26, 16:25
Calm down guys, There will be plenty of nice toys to play with, whomever they belong to. There will be a tank, which exact type i dont know, but lets wait and see ok. ;)

Snazz
2009-12-26, 16:34
Considered the newer L hesco and sangars for the main Duckhunt?

JacenSolo
2009-12-26, 16:51
Very nice update!! I hope everybody love it..

JERICHO777
2009-12-26, 16:59
New tank and supl track spotted))))

charliegrs
2009-12-26, 17:02
No, I mean the model itself, the vanilla one, whether it'll get replaced by a new LAV 25 model, or it'll be fully replaced by the AAVP7A1.

the LAV shouldnt be replaced by the AAV7 in any map unless it involves amphibious landings. the marines use both vehicles, so if anything the LAV should be supplemented by the AAV.

And wow fallujah looks like its about to get a whole lot cooler with the abrams, I always felt the map was lacking since in real life it seemed like the marines threw everything they had at it. So this will definitly make it more realistic.

And cue the "its unbalanced" complaints..

Antonyo
2009-12-26, 17:55
The changes looks great and it will be very interesting to see them ingame later on.

The new viechle loadout is gonna give the marines some additional punch, but will the INS get a bombtruck?
I guess the new technical is gonna solve the INS ammo probleme.

I also like the changes to the supplietrucks =)

rampo
2009-12-26, 18:20
Is that a Abrams i see? Never really liked the idea of MBT's on insurgency

Peeta
2009-12-26, 18:23
a tank....

Great even more reason to not play as Insurgents

gazzthompson
2009-12-26, 18:40
currently INS rape on fallujah 90% of the time, and i like the aspect of a MBT on a urban map like this, will be hard to deploy it and easy to counter.

jim1994
2009-12-26, 18:46
a tank....

Great even more reason to not play as Insurgents

ooo, a more reason to play as Insurgents :lol:

DankE_SPB
2009-12-26, 18:53
a tank....

seen the tandem warhead on new insurgent cash?;-)

and Al Basrah also has a tank, so nothing new
personally i'm all for it:-)

ma21212
2009-12-26, 18:55
whats that on the truck???
http://i50.tinypic.com/dy88pl.jpg

bosco_
2009-12-26, 19:04
Ammunition.

rampo
2009-12-26, 19:09
seen the tandem warhead on new insurgent cash?;-)


Oh right thanks for pointing that out danke :D Hope it will do

LeoPioneer
2009-12-26, 19:10
I'll miss the old Insurgent base, with the underground hallways in the basement that we'd wire up with grenade traps so when the USMC stormed the place, they'd all bitch on globals. LOL

Is that a Abrams i see? Never really liked the idea of MBT's on insurgency

Well, you gotta look it as Pro vs Con with both factions.

=== Main Battle Tanks in Fallujah ===

USMC PROs
- Extreme firepower
Don't get caught in these sights!
- Intimidation tactics
People will duck into houses and dig themselves graves when they see it rolling towards them

USMC CONs
- Easy to get stuck
Can easily get stuck in tight spaces, etc
- Large target
Can't disappear down side streets, will always be visible to the enemy

Insurgent PROs
- Large target
More the reason to get the Sapper Kit! Would give a good goal for the Insurgents
- Could use it to your advantage
You could use the environment to your advantage when trying to destroy it.

Insurgent CONs
- Its a tank...
Self explanatory

Tit4Tat
2009-12-26, 19:17
bosco;1217283']Ammunition.


to be blown up?? :-P

bosco_
2009-12-26, 19:19
I managed to blow it up trying to jump the ramp you see in the same picture. :p

Tit4Tat
2009-12-26, 19:23
Bomb car on steroids :lol:

Guard81
2009-12-26, 19:44
Good work so far, chaps. I look forward to the new Falluja West!

charliegrs
2009-12-26, 19:53
I guess im one of those rare people that likes being on the insurgent side more when the odds are really stacked against me i.e. tanks

Rudd
2009-12-26, 20:16
fallujah is a great map for armour, it has areas where it'll pwn, and areas where it'll get pwned

-Sauso-
2009-12-26, 20:19
Nice :)

CplChristos
2009-12-26, 21:32
Awsome !!!! hopefully putting an end to the constant base rape this map has gone though for so long

i think it should have just had a no go zone around it which was a little larger this would give the reality of the base being occupied by alot of troops, not to mention the fact they would be overwatching the base. not many bad guys come up to the base unless they mean bad.

theflidgeface
2009-12-26, 21:57
wow you did a great job, im glad to see a MBT on this map

privatedoodles
2009-12-26, 23:52
looking sweet, tank :) i think this map will be even more awesome now

eXPeriennce
2009-12-27, 00:06
looks nice

KeksTerror
2009-12-27, 00:14
Great... Tanks on Fallujah =) I think that I already love it :)

happycamper
2009-12-27, 01:56
Really good job, =)

L4gi
2009-12-27, 02:04
Insurgents will love getting shot by all that metal. :(

gazzthompson
2009-12-27, 03:13
or loving ambushing it in the city

mongol-horde
2009-12-27, 05:16
vampire for ins?

Snazz
2009-12-27, 07:34
the LAV shouldnt be replaced by the AAV7 in any map unless it involves amphibious landings. the marines use both vehicles, so if anything the LAV should be supplemented by the AAV.
AAVs are not only used for amphibious operations, they were also in Fallujah IRL.

8LbdivLaJeg

barbdwyer22
2009-12-27, 07:55
Of course not, AAVs are assigned to a company in every infantry battalion, LAVs are their own unit.

I.E. 1/5 Bravo Co. is a track company utilizing AAVs.

Sgt.BountyOrig
2009-12-27, 11:28
Abrams and Another Humvee!
Ill never walk again!

hiberNative
2009-12-27, 11:50
i like it a lot, good job.

LeDudd
2009-12-27, 12:34
Looks awesome! I foresee totally new tactics for both, US and insurgents. And I can't wait coordinating IED/RPG/bombcar ambushes against this tank :)

Adetter
2009-12-27, 13:28
new Insurgent vehicle! Pickup with crates?

Rangu
2009-12-27, 13:32
new Insurgent vehicle! Pickup with crates?

If you'd read the thread, you'd know that it's ammo crates.

SgtDil
2009-12-27, 14:08
that looks so cool :)

Donatello
2009-12-27, 15:22
or loving ambushing it in the city
if cache is in the city.
cashes on open areas are fail. where was beta-testers when it was approved? ))

gazzthompson
2009-12-27, 16:00
if in "open area" ambush on the way to the cache,

sakils2
2009-12-27, 16:03
Looks awesome... but the tank creeps me out :(

Snazz
2009-12-27, 16:21
duckhunt;1217125']heres to 2010, where PR will carry on advancing in all respects, including more detailed environments, this is just the tip of the iceburg of work from PR mappers. ;)
Now I'm anticipating a 2x2km urban Iraq map with Fallujah's detail.

Ramiel is quite close to what I have in mind. It just needs more enter-able buildings, compounds and perhaps sidewalks.

Karbala and Basrah are good efforts respectably but I dislike their layout, due to the stark contrast of open desert and concentrated vanilla BF2 apartment buildings.

Muttrah's scale and number of enter-able apartment blocks is impressive but lacks street detail.

I think the Insurgents are gonna owned by heat rounds
Never really liked the idea of MBT's on insurgency
a tank....Great even more reason to not play as Insurgents
the tank creeps me out :(
It's actually a good thing for the insurgents.

The tank cannon has a far slower rate of fire and less ammunition, not ideal for engaging multiple infantry and light vehicles.

If it runs over a mine/IED or is hit by a suicide car it is in just as much trouble as an IFV.

It also results in a reduction of armored transport for the Marines.

DankE_SPB
2009-12-27, 16:34
While it may be more psychologically intimidating than a IFV, it's less useful in urban combat against infantry and cars because it's cannon has a much slower rate of fire. I don't believe it is significantly more resilient against explosive threats either.
yeah, auto cannons FTW
i still dream to see BMP-3 in insurgency one day:cry:

Zulnex
2009-12-27, 18:28
Very cool 8). Keep up the amazing work.

Leopardi
2009-12-27, 18:38
PERFECT! M1A1 is beautiful. Now just RELEASE IT PLS?

00SoldierofFortune00
2009-12-27, 19:42
Pretty Beast! Wish where was 1 less APC with the new Abrams, but we will have to see how it plays out before judging though.

Claymore
2009-12-27, 22:00
I simply love this new layout, Fallujah is one of my favourite maps.

I'd not be so afraid of the tank, actually the supply cars for insurgents are possibly a bigger buff for the insurgents than the tank is for USMC. We will likely see RPGs far away from the caches and minefields everywhere. Hopefully it will encourage people to organize ambushes.

Tinfoilhat
2009-12-27, 22:38
I think the new curbs you dont have to jump over all the time will be a bigger improvement than the M1A1 or the insurgent ammo pickup.
Will make moving around the city so much better!:-D

Snazz
2009-12-28, 05:03
Wish where was 1 less APC with the new Abrams
Because of concern it might be unbalanced or that you'd prefer less crewmen and more infantry?

00SoldierofFortune00
2009-12-28, 07:13
Because of concern it might be unbalanced or that you'd prefer less crewmen and more infantry?

It could go either way really. It could either be a detriment to the US if they still lose APCs like crazy and hurt their small 200 tickets on that map, or it could be a detriment to the Insurgents if it is way too much armor and that they aren't able to take them out. I'm leaning towards it being overpowered for the US though if their main isn't so easily attackable anymore. But I guess we will see.

Snazz
2009-12-28, 07:28
I'm betting it will be more of a detriment to the US based on:
- Tanks being less appropriate for urban combat against insurgents and their fast vehicles, due to rate of fire and ammunition capacity.
- Replacement of an IFV with a tank meaning a reduction of their armored transport capacity.
- Tanks not being significantly stronger than IFVs in PR, resulting in a similar frequency of asset loss.

Ryan
2009-12-28, 07:53
thats way much better than the other one

Spartan0189
2009-12-28, 12:12
Oh.. My.. God, that base will be win, Can't wait to play this baby

But woot, Abrams on Fallujah :D, That gives me more chances to kill armor in Fallujah

bosco_
2009-12-28, 12:15
Oh.. My.. God, that base will be win, But, wouldn't this make the base west of the Insurgent Main? O_O


Read the original post and look at the last two pictures, then you should be able to answer that question yourself. ;)

Snazz
2009-12-28, 12:21
That gives me more chances to kill armor in Fallujah
Probably the exact same chances as before considering it is replacing a Bradley.

Mad-Mike
2009-12-28, 13:38
nice work :D but a tank on falluja:confused:

rampo
2009-12-28, 13:43
Hope you can have the 32 version tank free so if people don't like it you could just use that version? Just an idea.

alberto_di_gio
2009-12-28, 14:18
Wow.... amazing work done guys. Thank you in advance :)

And here I see a brand new tank sleeping there. Thats great though that but with insurgent who knows what they are doing it would be challenge to keep it moving :D

Garmax
2009-12-28, 14:56
cant wait to get on that mounted gun its so perfectly placed

dtacs
2009-12-28, 15:05
Is the tank having a respawn, or the same deal as Basrah?

TBH its not gonna be that OP'd, insurgents should have no problems taking it down if they work together.

Snazz
2009-12-28, 15:48
but a tank on falluja:confused:
If the two photos I posted earlier weren't enough for people to get their head around the idea of a tank in Fallujah:
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Ricardo-SC
2009-12-28, 17:34
Wow, an Abrams in fallujah, could not be better, I can not wait to enjoy it! :-P

IAJTHOMAS
2009-12-28, 18:11
If the two photos I posted earlier weren't enough for people to get their head around the idea of a tank in Fallujah

I don't think they're point is that it didn't happen in reality somehow.

Personally dont see the problem with it though. Rather a tank than another Brad.

Nibbit
2009-12-28, 21:19
I saw ABRAPORNTNK

Lagsalot 56k
2009-12-28, 22:07
Looks great, hopefully the base rape will be brought down now.
I also noticed the supply crates in back of the Logi trucks.
Cant wait. :)

iceman
2009-12-28, 23:25
And now all Insurgents leave the caches and go hunt this one Abrams :mrgreen:. A tank on urban map is always fun, is like white crow :goodvibes all want drive this war-pig or destroy

=]H[= JakCurse
2009-12-29, 16:25
I love it. <3

Kirra
2009-12-29, 23:50
The tank won't be a problem as it can't aim that high and is slow and loud.

But do i see a m240 on top of it?

Kossolax
2009-12-30, 01:16
nice work. looks like its going to be a storm fighting your way into town.

robbie3211
2009-12-30, 11:25
The tank won't be a problem as it can't aim that high and is slow and loud.

But do i see a m240 on top of it?

Ye, I noticed too, there's a .50 mounted and and m240!

foxtwofive
2009-12-30, 16:53
Ye, I noticed too, there's a .50 mounted and and m240!

Yeah, I think its the USI M1A1.

Zar2Roc
2009-12-30, 22:41
Won't the tank create soundbugs? Or the view distance is getting increased?

Sgt.BountyOrig
2009-12-31, 12:18
duckhunt;1217125']

http://i48.tinypic.com/35ko5eq.jpg



Blue dot? :???:

Spartan0189
2009-12-31, 13:07
Maybe a clue to the past :o

Also, I didn't notice the M240 and M2 on that Abrams, this is gonna be epic :D

=]H[=[Amish]Kommando
2009-12-31, 17:09
[QUOTE=Snazz;1217195]It doesn't matter what it is replacing. It is a Marine M1A1, they were used in Fallujah IRL.

http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/Assets/Still/2006/Marines/DM-SD-06-03753.JPG

Still Asset Details for DMSD0603753 (http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/DVIC_View/Still_Details.cfm?SDAN=DMSD0603753&JPGPath=/Assets/Still/2006/Marines/DM-SD-06-03753.JPG)


OT: Did anyone else notice the Coleman cooler on the turret? ^^

chuckMFd
2009-12-31, 20:51
Looks like Fallujah just got win-sauce spilled all over it!!

00SoldierofFortune00
2009-12-31, 20:57
Kommando;1221542'][QUOTE=Snazz;1217195]It doesn't matter what it is replacing. It is a Marine M1A1, they were used in Fallujah IRL.

http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/Assets/Still/2006/Marines/DM-SD-06-03753.JPG

Still Asset Details for DMSD0603753 (http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/DVIC_View/Still_Details.cfm?SDAN=DMSD0603753&JPGPath=/Assets/Still/2006/Marines/DM-SD-06-03753.JPG)


OT: Did anyone else notice the Coleman cooler on the turret? ^^

They needed to keep their beers cold for their victory party.

triggger30-06
2010-01-01, 05:15
Wow that is so cool cant wait the new 0.9 is going to be unreal.




Trigger

PowerPickle
2010-01-01, 11:14
I like how you can see the supply crates in the back of the logistic's truck.

kram16
2010-01-02, 09:33
wow!! keep at it. good job.:)

sniperrocks
2010-01-02, 13:56
sweet!!! cannot wait!

duckhunt
2010-01-02, 18:59
@ snazz well if you insist ive added some new sangars, i actually didnt have the files on my computer before so forgot about them. But congrats you have directly affected the map ;)

Baw_Chicka_Wah_Wah
2010-01-03, 03:58
I noticed there are 2 machine guns on the turret. Does this mean there will be 4 men manning the tank? (Driver, main gunner, commander, 50. gunner?)

Bazul14
2010-01-03, 04:44
I guess so, i checked, there are 2 MG's on the in game abrams now. Hmm, i guess insurgents are going to have a fairly hard time to take it down.

Kirra
2010-01-03, 05:06
I guess so, i checked, there are 2 MG's on the in game abrams now. Hmm, i guess insurgents are going to have a fairly hard time to take it down.

Naah, IIRC i saw a Tandem RPG-7 on the new weapon cache model. It shouldn't be too hard to take out a tank with one of those in the city unless it is properly supported by infantry.

Bazul14
2010-01-03, 05:14
can i see the cache with the tandem RPG-7 if possible? :)

Kirra
2010-01-03, 08:08
can i see the cache with the tandem RPG-7 if possible? :)

Ammo Cache Update - Spot the Diffrence! - Project Reality Forums (http://www.realitymod.com/forum/blogs/2363/b132-ammo-cache-update-spot-diffrence.html)

Human_001
2010-01-04, 04:01
Why give Insurgents a current U.S. base if it was in such horrible spot on map that U.S. side had such a hard time defending?

In another word I can imagine Insurgent side player having horrible time just as U.S. side player did in current and previous versions.

Feriluce
2010-01-04, 05:56
Why give Insurgents a current U.S. base if it was in such horrible spot on map that U.S. side had such a hard time defending?

In another word I can imagine Insurgent side player having horrible time just as U.S. side player did in current and previous versions.

Usually baseraping is not allowed for anyone but insurgents, meaning their base wont get raped.

MurderDogg
2010-01-04, 21:43
Why give Insurgents a current U.S. base if it was in such horrible spot on map that U.S. side had such a hard time defending?

In another word I can imagine Insurgent side player having horrible time just as U.S. side player did in current and previous versions.

What else should happen to an abandoned fortified base area? The insurgents took it over(back). Also, I don`t think it`s harder for the insurgents to defend than the rest of the map.

myles
2010-01-05, 00:00
Thats how it is in real life

gazzthompson
2010-01-05, 01:03
Thats how it is in real life

how what is?

Rudd
2010-01-05, 01:42
Why give Insurgents a current U.S. base if it was in such horrible spot on map that U.S. side had such a hard time defending?

In another word I can imagine Insurgent side player having horrible time just as U.S. side player did in current and previous versions.

the thing is that the old US base is in a nice part of the city, the city is where INS rule

the area where the new base is was an area that no self respecting insurgent would tread unless forced by pitchforks covered with dog excrement as it had no cover or CQB oppotunities.

myles
2010-01-05, 22:43
how what is?

The fallujah west main base which is currently in use is the oppisite of where it is IRL but now since its moved itll be like the real base.

Wh33lman
2010-01-06, 00:14
the Abrams this, the Abrams that. Screw the Abrams, nobody noticed the ramp leading out of the insurgent main? I am going to have SOOO much fun with that!

no but srsly, i hope the M1A2 TUSK makes it into .9

Skodz
2010-01-06, 20:02
Hopefully we can still attack it, it's what make this map so interesting compared to other insurgency maps because the US actually need to defend it.

PLODDITHANLEY
2010-01-06, 20:28
There are four heavy duty garages with 3 Humvee's inside, I would like to see the four armoured vehicles in there to offer the maximum protection from those red cars.

Will make a nice change just having the mains moved about.

DusanYugoslavia
2010-01-07, 12:42
Nice!!!I love Fallujah! 8-)

rampo
2010-01-07, 16:09
There are four heavy duty garages with 3 Humvee's inside, I would like to see the four armoured vehicles in there to offer the maximum protection from those red cars.

Will make a nice change just having the mains moved about.

You know having a Hummer or APC wont make much difference when a Bomb car hits you.

Human_001
2010-01-08, 04:35
Insurgent shouldn't be guarding a base.

If Insurgent side is given an objective to guard something, the whole battle becomes like Conventional vs Conventional. Which is what we are trying to avoid when depicting Insurgency.
And this Main Base setting is just like Conventional warfare map. symmetrical with Main Base on each end of map.

I personally think current "Guard the ammodump" is already standing in way of trying to depict non-conventional warfare. Insurgent side used to have alot of random spawn point all across the map. Which gave Insurgent side players ability to pop out of nowhere. But now Insurgent side have very few of this and it expires after 5 minute from starting of the round, giving symmetrical Main Base is only making matter worse.

TheWhaleHunter
2010-01-08, 12:51
Is that a bike jump in the last pic? :lol:


Looking great, seems more reasonable to set up base further away from the city than the previous.

TheOldBreed
2010-01-08, 19:43
i spy an Abrams. YEEEEEEEEEEEEESS!

D1g1t
2010-01-08, 23:46
Will Change the map dynamics, that is sure!!
Gd Work Devs

mongol-horde
2010-01-09, 01:15
yeah, auto cannons FTW
i still dream to see BMP-3 in insurgency one day:cry:

russian insurgency?
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gamerx12
2010-01-11, 00:08
Insurgent shouldn't be guarding a base.

If Insurgent side is given an objective to guard something, the whole battle becomes like Conventional vs Conventional. Which is what we are trying to avoid when depicting Insurgency.
And this Main Base setting is just like Conventional warfare map. symmetrical with Main Base on each end of map.

I personally think current "Guard the ammodump" is already standing in way of trying to depict non-conventional warfare. Insurgent side used to have alot of random spawn point all across the map. Which gave Insurgent side players ability to pop out of nowhere. But now Insurgent side have very few of this and it expires after 5 minute from starting of the round, giving symmetrical Main Base is only making matter worse.


I defiantly agree with that. I would love to have the feeling an insurgent could appear in any area to ambush me rather then just be near a cache. Also considering that it would feel as if the whole city is a death trap. You should put that for a suggestion

DankE_SPB
2010-01-11, 00:29
russian insurgency?
not going to happen i guess, even though BMP-3 saw action in 1st war, not sure about 2nd

[RIP]Robbo
2010-01-11, 03:20
Some good work to that Map, Great Job

=]H[= JakCurse
2010-01-11, 14:14
I can see bomb cars being an issue now that the LAV's are so close to the entrance, rather than inside then around a corner :wink: