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THE.FIST
2009-10-01, 15:31
Updated soldier models for idf faction that makes way to 0.9
for mapper choice standart helmets and helmets with material ( miznefet )

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/SirChuc/screen004-5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/SirChuc/screen007-8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/SirChuc/screen009-6.jpg


http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4074/soldiersc.jpg

supahpingi
2009-10-01, 15:38
OMFG miznefetz

I luv you guys so much!

LoneSniperJim
2009-10-01, 15:39
<3 the rocket models on the back

rampo
2009-10-01, 15:41
WTH no more SRAWs on the back when ur AA?

burghUK
2009-10-01, 15:43
very cool.

MonkeySoldier
2009-10-01, 15:49
That's epic badassness. :D

burghUK
2009-10-01, 15:56
4pXfHLUlZf4

we were all thinking it...had to.

Expendable Grunt
2009-10-01, 16:04
For us Ignorant American pig-dogs, what's with the netting on the helmet? I didn't think anyone still used that webbing for attaching camo, but I've been wrong about it before.

M.

Hauteclocque
2009-10-01, 16:16
WTH no more SRAWs on the back when ur AA?

These are new models, so they can do everything they want. They couldn't remove SRAW on soldier's back because US soldiers are DICE models which cannot be modified.

The netting on the helmet is put here to avoid being shot in the head ;)

Very nice work for the IDF, this faction will bring a lot of new assets, players, etc. You really deserve to be in this mod. See you in 0.9 :)

Foehrunner
2009-10-01, 16:17
Very Cool!!!!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3268/3210627228_8151bbd954.jpg

http://www.lexpress.fr/medias/198/israel-soldats_83.jpg

Gore
2009-10-01, 16:43
That's badass.

=Romagnolo=
2009-10-01, 16:46
I'm speechless ! @_@

DonDOOM
2009-10-01, 16:49
Looks awesome!

JSteger
2009-10-01, 17:20
Bagpipe Helmets... Pretty hi tech =D

Awesome job man look perfect.

162eRI
2009-10-01, 17:31
Awesome, beautiful new helmets guys ;)
Congrat' for your faction!

jbgeezer
2009-10-01, 17:38
Mushrom men, weehee! :D

Arnoldio
2009-10-01, 18:06
Miznefet ftw, i allways wanted this in PR :D

gazzthompson
2009-10-01, 18:24
For us Ignorant American pig-dogs, what's with the netting on the helmet? I didn't think anyone still used that webbing for attaching camo, but I've been wrong about it before.

M.


THE.FIST;1149977']
for mapper choice standart helmets and helmets with material ( miznefet )


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitznefet_(Israeli_military)

Aquiller
2009-10-01, 18:26
That Miznefet thingie looks hiliarious nevertheless I'm looking forward to play IDF!

Oskarious
2009-10-01, 18:27
Too bad the irl IDF has ugly equipment

sparks50
2009-10-01, 18:27
Mushroom faction! :D (the webbing)

Looks awesome.

Technoelite
2009-10-01, 18:48
looks really really nice

Tomato-Rifle
2009-10-01, 19:34
Sweeeet!

Snares
2009-10-01, 19:38
Excuse my ignorance but why exactly do they wear those nets on their heads? Is it for cooling/sunburn purposes?

ReadMenace
2009-10-01, 19:39
Awesome work! Send me tri counts! ;)

-REad

Jaymz
2009-10-01, 19:52
Excuse my ignorance but why exactly do they wear those nets on their heads? Is it for cooling/sunburn purposes?

It's purpose is to break up the head/helmet outline of the wearer to enhance their camouflage.

503
2009-10-01, 20:21
Kick ass. Absolutely kick ass.

Claymore
2009-10-01, 20:48
Excellent job, something tells me the Israeli vs Hamas matches are really going to be something special.

Peeta
2009-10-01, 20:58
<3 the new helmets!

Snares
2009-10-01, 21:04
Jaymz;1150191']It's purpose is to break up the head/helmet outline of the wearer to enhance their camouflage.Ahh. Well that definitely makes sense. :D

This looks super awesome; I can't wait for 0.9. Do we get a Jerusalem map with the Dome of the Rock in it? 8-)

Nebsif
2009-10-01, 21:14
Ahh. Well that definitely makes sense. :D

This looks super awesome; I can't wait for 0.9. Do we get a Jerusalem map with the Dome of the Rock in it? 8-)


A destroyable dome of the rock plz

Hauteclocque
2009-10-01, 21:32
Not a very constructive sentence...

Seiran
2009-10-01, 21:37
Holy Hell! Those look flippin' great!

d_man
2009-10-01, 22:18
A destroyable dome of the rock plz

plz no...
it will just ruin the game with stupid politics
better not put the dome of the rock at all or any other religious site (i.e. wailing wall, Church of the Holy Sepulchre etc....)

rangedReCon
2009-10-01, 22:57
I didn't think you could've made the other most recent models look better, but then....:-D

Rangu
2009-10-01, 23:03
aaah... anti-sniper mushroom hats <3

Lemon
2009-10-01, 23:20
Neat! Gj dudes!

HangMan_
2009-10-01, 23:52
Those player models are awesome :D Finally another army who wears potato sacks on their heads :p its not just us Kiwi's after all!

Drop_Deadx
2009-10-02, 00:47
Looks amazing, But why are their hats like that?

gazzthompson
2009-10-02, 00:49
Looks amazing, But why are their hats like that?

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f196-pr-highlights/68017-soldiers-idf-2.html#post1150106

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f196-pr-highlights/68017-soldiers-idf-3.html#post1150191

can a DEV clearly state the use of the helmet thing because i foresee ALOT of questions like this.

Rudd
2009-10-02, 01:01
Jaymz;1150191']It's purpose is to break up the head/helmet outline of the wearer to enhance their camouflage.

there ya go

The_Blitzcraig
2009-10-02, 01:30
Not being racist or anything, but is there really a significant number of Africans in the IDF to warrant a skin for them?
Also is the Miznefet going to be on all models or only on specific classes or maps?

ReadMenace
2009-10-02, 02:38
Not being racist or anything, but is there really a significant number of Africans in the IDF to warrant a skin for them?


Here. (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ethiopian+jews)


Also is the Miznefet going to be on all models or only on specific classes or maps?

The OP's response:
THE.FIST;1149977']Updated soldier models for idf faction that makes way to 0.9
for mapper choice standart helmets and helmets with material ( miznefet )


-REad

dbzao
2009-10-02, 02:42
That's funny huh... the original post has 2 lines and the answer to the question... :roll:

kstep
2009-10-02, 05:52
Great work

with this "miznefetz" it'll be easy to catch headshot

imho :)

edit: and what about screens with Hamas soldiers wearing IDF kits? :)

UncleSmek
2009-10-02, 06:20
Great work

with this "miznefetz" it'll be easy to catch headshot

imho :)

edit: and what about screens with Hamas soldiers wearing IDF kits? :)

x2 Was just thinking the same thing^^

THE.FIST
2009-10-02, 08:02
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f196-pr-highlights/68017-soldiers-idf-2.html#post1150106

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f196-pr-highlights/68017-soldiers-idf-3.html#post1150191

can a DEV clearly state the use of the helmet thing because i foresee ALOT of questions like this.

IDF Camouflaged Helmet Cover - \"Mitznefet\" Israel Military Products IDF Army Surplus Store (http://www.israelmilitary.com/camouflaged-helmet-cover-mitznefet-p-983.html)

Fat Man Jim
2009-10-02, 09:07
man i hate those frilly helmet things the IDF wear

Nibbit
2009-10-02, 09:30
Nicely modeled man,

epic mario hat :p

Antonyo
2009-10-02, 10:11
The models look great and the helmet netting is just awsome 8)

ReadMenace
2009-10-02, 12:02
Great work

with this "miznefetz" it'll be easy to catch headshot

imho :)

edit: and what about screens with Hamas soldiers wearing IDF kits? :)

Kit geometries do not have hit boxes -- if they did we could have helmets that offered protection.

-REad

ZZEZ
2009-10-02, 12:35
Read is correct - if anything it will be harder to headshot IDF soldiers with miznefet as it will give a impression of a larger hitbox then it is.

kstep
2009-10-02, 12:46
ReadMenace;1150730']Kit geometries do not have hit boxes -- if they did we could have helmets that offered protection.

-REad

I meant its easy to aim at smb head :) ; not about hitting system.

rampo
2009-10-02, 12:47
Neat helmets...

TGT
2009-10-02, 13:23
I friggin love u man...

Mj Pain
2009-10-02, 14:30
Any chance of some highsettings ingame photos?

JERICHO777
2009-10-02, 15:50
THEY BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!)))
Whery nice work you maid mate!!!!
Hold a sec... wa..whata..omg.. Oh no... NOOOOO... GLOVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NOOOOOOOOOO WHERYS GLOVES!!!!AAAAA!!!!!....)))

Mr. Hader
2009-10-02, 16:14
I'm not using any gloves.
only at winter... if any

Gore
2009-10-02, 17:10
ZZEZ;1150745']if anything it will be harder to headshot IDF soldiers with miznefet as it will give a impression of a larger hitbox then it is.

But they'll be easier to spot.

gazzthompson
2009-10-02, 17:41
But they'll be easier to spot.

well, breaks up the usual helmet shape so could be harder.

psychickactivity
2009-10-02, 23:40
Very good job.

theflidgeface
2009-10-03, 04:25
awesome and badass nice work

agentscar
2009-10-03, 04:51
No IDF babes?? lol,jk. Lovely work guys,looks great! :)

WilsonPL
2009-10-03, 08:37
reduce shine on stinger model ; )

Maxfragg
2009-10-03, 10:39
No IDF babes?? lol,jk. Lovely work guys,looks great! :)

right, for an army, where women have to do a military service as well, female playermodels would be really awesome

MonkeySoldier
2009-10-03, 10:40
right, for an army, where women have to do a military service as well, female playermodels would be really awesome
It's not awesome if they have a male voice in-game, or vice versa. :shock:

05grottim
2009-10-03, 16:28
why do these people look like 60 year old women about to go in the shower? Or are they afraid the rain might ruin ther hair?

gazzthompson
2009-10-03, 16:38
why do these people look like 60 year old women about to go in the shower? Or are they afraid the rain might ruin ther hair?

read the thread:

THE.FIST;1149977']
for mapper choice standart helmets and helmets with material ( miznefet )


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitznefet_(Israeli_military)

Jaymz;1150191']It's purpose is to break up the head/helmet outline of the wearer to enhance their camouflage.

THE.FIST;1150649']IDF Camouflaged Helmet Cover - \"Mitznefet\" Israel Military Products IDF Army Surplus Store (http://www.israelmilitary.com/camouflaged-helmet-cover-mitznefet-p-983.html)


can a DEV clearly state in the OP the helmet thing, will help alot with all these questions.

THE.FIST
2009-10-03, 16:46
why do these people look like 60 year old women about to go in the shower? Or are they afraid the rain might ruin ther hair?
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way (http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=260935)

CLICK HERE (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=miznefet)

Foehrunner
2009-10-03, 16:55
THE.FIST;1151500']How To Ask Questions The Smart Way (http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=260935)

CLICK HERE (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=miznefet)

:thumbsup:You couldn't give a better answer!

Pronck
2009-10-03, 17:03
It looks great!

TheAssProtectors.Nr1
2009-10-03, 19:30
First of all, it looks GREAT! I'm really looking forward to play this faction. :P
However, what about the in-game speech? Does IDF speak Hebrew in-game?

05grottim
2009-10-03, 20:17
THE.FIST;1151500']How To Ask Questions The Smart Way (http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=260935)

CLICK HERE (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=miznefet)

yes that would be funny but they dont actually look like the picture. They look like an old womans shower cap.

Hauteclocque
2009-10-03, 20:30
Pff, really... stop saying that sort of craps.
If you are not happy, learn how to make models, we'll see if you can make something as good as what THE.FIST has done...
What does that mean ? Huh ? And why do Scots wear kilts ? (no offence to Scots.;), it's just an example)
There is a reason for everything, you have just to search a bit...

Nibbit
2009-10-03, 20:37
No IDF babes?? lol,jk. Lovely work guys,looks great! :)

ye so we can have sexy time when were defending stuff that doesnt get attcked

THE.FIST
2009-10-03, 21:12
yes that would be funny but they dont actually look like the picture. They look like an old womans shower cap.
i suggest you to stop talking in that tone , i am not going to search references for you

Wheeter
2009-10-04, 01:46
can't wait to fire qassam rockets at them

OriginalWarrior
2009-10-04, 07:16
Lol, those kilt-hats are so funny looking. I like them, it will give me a good target for BOOM headshots! /drunk

Tonnie
2009-10-04, 09:20
Lol, those kilt-hats are so funny looking. I like them, it will give me a good target for BOOM headshots! /drunk

the point is so that its harder for headshots

Kain888
2009-10-04, 09:21
Awesome job. Can't wait to see that miznefets on my character! :]

Nebsif
2009-10-04, 13:12
First of all, it looks GREAT! I'm really looking forward to play this faction. :P
However, what about the in-game speech? Does IDF speak Hebrew in-game?

Yap yap they do
Some messing around... (Part 2) - Project Reality Forums (https://www.realitymod.com/forum/blogs/12510/b98-some-messing-around-part-2.html)

THE.FIST
2009-10-04, 13:30
this is outdated voices tho

Mr. Hader
2009-10-05, 06:34
THE.FIST;1152054']this is outdated voices tho

are you still using the voices guy gave you?

THE.FIST
2009-10-05, 11:30
i think its gonna be old rc's not the voices guy made , sorry

MMad
2009-10-05, 11:53
*Awesome* stuff. :) Love the mushroom hats. :p

Mad-Mike
2009-10-05, 13:15
I like the way the weapons are on the back etc.:lol:
Good Work!

ramonrochamoreira
2009-10-05, 17:35
Nice. :smile:

Garmax
2009-10-05, 22:45
uh la la.. is that an unscoped saw?

and great job guys i love the way it looks

Malkav
2009-10-07, 15:10
They remember me the Rebel Forces on Star Wars

ZZEZ
2009-10-07, 15:12
uh la la.. is that an unscoped saw?

and great job guys i love the way it looks


Its a placeholder for Negev LMG which will hopefully make an appearance in 0.9

combine.
2009-10-16, 14:51
hey all im here to help you out with this mode
(im in the IDF)
the thing on the helmet need to be military color like this:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i146/ND-Art/MilitaryCamo1.jpg
this is the shoes that we use here:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/he/e/e1/%D7%A0%D7%A2%D7%9C%D7%99_%D7%A6%D7%91%D7%90.JPG
we use 29 bullets in a magazine and using 7 magazines
engeneers using explosives here not the spec ops and m4
not shotgun like bf2
at is saw or sraw
our scopes is trigicon mars and meprolight
some soliders have red shoes but they are the same shoes
and not all of them using that helmet covers!
http://www.edu-negev.gov.il/ilay/motivation/pictures/raal.jpg

they have 2 pockets in the left side of the pants and 1 on the right
and stripes in the knees like here:
http://www.datili.co.il/files_media/ed515f5a02a194be653c460ecc28a05b.jpg

weapons:
shors m16
M4
Barret sniper
M24
Tavor
Galil
negev
FN MAG 58
M14
T.C.I. M89SR
sr 25
and more in spec ops that i dont know

vehicles:
Puma
D9
Merkava
Hammer
Sufa 2
and more i dont remember them

here is some pics:
http://msc.walla.co.il/archive/512772-5.jpg
http://albums.tapuz.co.il/flix/buffer/thumbs/flx_2453562_430300_01_3.jpg

MurderDogg
2009-10-16, 16:32
I`m dreaming of a Camo Christmas...

Seiran
2009-10-16, 17:59
hey all im here to help you out with this mode
(im in the IDF)
the thing on the helmet need to be military color like this:
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i146/ND-Art/MilitaryCamo1.jpg
this is the shoes that we use here:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/he/e/e1/%D7%A0%D7%A2%D7%9C%D7%99_%D7%A6%D7%91%D7%90.JPG
we use 29 bullets in a magazine and using 7 magazines
engeneers using explosives here not the spec ops and m4
not shotgun like bf2
at is saw or sraw
our scopes is trigicon mars and meprolight
some soliders have red shoes but they are the same shoes
and not all of them using that helmet covers!
http://www.edu-negev.gov.il/ilay/motivation/pictures/raal.jpg

they have 2 pockets in the left side of the pants and 1 on the right
and stripes in the knees like here:
http://www.datili.co.il/files_media/ed515f5a02a194be653c460ecc28a05b.jpg

weapons:
shors m16
M4
Barret sniper
M24
Tavor
Galil
negev
FN MAG 58
M14
T.C.I. M89SR
sr 25
and more in spec ops that i dont know

vehicles:
Puma
D9
Merkava
Hammer
Sufa 2
and more i dont remember them

here is some pics:
http://msc.walla.co.il/archive/512772-5.jpg
http://albums.tapuz.co.il/flix/buffer/thumbs/flx_2453562_430300_01_3.jpg

Several of the Dev's also are in the IDF. I'd say they know what they are doing and have it covered. But if you want to help, I'd suggest reposting this in the IDF section. You might get more attention there.

THE.FIST
2009-10-16, 18:28
well we have enough ppl in idf and dont realy need military advicers combine if you want to help we need texture , modeling , mapping artists

Edi1314
2009-10-17, 19:35
idk french had an army :D anyway i thought it was only an invisible one ;)

Hauteclocque
2009-10-17, 19:49
?
Can you explain ?
What's the link with this topic ?

I'm fed up with those guys saying that sort of thing on English-speaking community, there are not even jokes in their sentences...just saying s***

Sgt_Doctor
2009-10-17, 20:51
idk french had an army :D anyway i thought it was only an invisible one ;)

Ahahah, and you are ? Yougoslavian ? So, everybody knows how the yougoslavian army rox. Wait, no one knows the yougoslavian army ? (Oh, this country is over !) ;-)

French Bashing is old-fashioned now. Iraki war was in 2003. :-D

THE.FIST
2009-10-17, 20:59
How does this connects to particular topic? anyway i think it was just mistake by yugoslavian guy that can't know how the real army looks :)

combine.
2009-10-21, 09:10
THE.FIST;1161228']well we have enough ppl in idf and dont realy need military advicers combine if you want to help we need texture , modeling , mapping artists

hehehe sorry man i just playng the game...!
i really tried to help little bit but if you from idf too so i guess that you dont need my help!
anyway keep it up your mod is the best and im waiting to the release! (i hope that i will be at home then and not in the army)

Chuc
2009-10-21, 09:11
I'm sure you'll love what we've done ;)

THE.FIST
2009-10-21, 10:11
hehehe sorry man i just playng the game...!
i really tried to help little bit but if you from idf too so i guess that you dont need my help!
anyway keep it up your mod is the best and im waiting to the release! (i hope that i will be at home then and not in the army)
heheheh you can add me on msn also and we are making some game with other ppl when 0.9 is out :D

BogusBoo
2009-10-21, 13:00
I cannot wait till the IDF come into PR, i hope they have good maps though.

Nebsif
2009-10-21, 15:50
Lul, I will go to the army around the time it comes out, 02/12/09, artillery

Mr. Hader
2009-10-21, 20:20
THE.FIST;1152751']i think its gonna be old rc's not the voices guy made , sorry

and I thought 13 year old don't serve in the idf...
Bad call mate, but it yours to do.

dbzao
2009-10-21, 21:21
Neither voices are up to the quality we want sound-wise (room noise, reverb, etc). If you guys want better voices, you need to follow [R-DEV]Jaymz instructions.

Heaven
2009-10-21, 22:41
Dey lok silly cap'n

ZZEZ
2009-10-21, 22:45
and I thought 13 year old don't serve in the idf...
Bad call mate, but it yours to do.

Guys lets bring the sound discussion to this thread
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f193-israeli-defense-force/68984-help-needed-hebrew-voice.html
As opposed to continuing it here

Chuc
2009-10-21, 22:47
Added a few more screenshots of the kits and soldiers into the first post.

Zulnex
2009-10-22, 01:43
Superb work. Can't wait until release.

Sandmarken
2009-10-24, 12:17
This is going to be great =D

-|Tactic|-Japsen
2009-10-24, 12:36
Where are my Germans :,(

Demonic
2009-10-25, 06:44
well, breaks up the usual helmet shape so could be harder.

Some how I hardly see how a giant mushroom is going to offer protection against being spotted.

At 6:00 AM, A IDF soldier attempts to sneak behind a bush. A Hamas soldier looks his way and tells him to surrender. The IDF soldier talks and sais. "What gave me away". The Hamas soldier sais "Well your mushroom helmet thing is larger than the bush so."

At 9:00 AM, The same IDF soldier tries to sneak up on the Hamas soldier again. This time he chooses to crawl against a wall. The Hamas soldier shows up behind him and tells him to surrender. The IDF soldier asks again what gave him away. The Hamas soldier sighs and sais "Your mushroom cap was peaking out on the wall".

In real-life I'd think you'd find the same problems. It just sticks out too much. There is no way that would keep you not visable. In game however, that thing is going to stick out like a sour thumb. However the benefit of it is no more friendly fire. You can easily tell who a IDF soldier is by looking at his helmet. Which I will be glad for, tired of getting team killed in PR.

On a side note, great job on the faction. Great models and great skinning job.

Anhkhoa
2009-10-25, 07:02
YOU GUYS LIED TO ME!!!:neutral:
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f193-israeli-defense-force/57080-wip-new-player-models-kits-6.html

AlbanianDragon
2009-10-25, 09:19
Is the galil-rifle included ?
nice work btw

American
2009-10-25, 13:13
Wow...Israeli looks great. :D

-|Tactic|-Japsen
2009-10-26, 16:25
You can easily tell who a IDF soldier is by looking at his helmet. Which I will be glad for, tired of getting team killed in PR.
Sry to tell you, but this wont help :D Helmets wont show up over distance.
(i know from low grapics, maybe also high:P)

bosco_
2009-10-26, 16:28
Are you sure? ;)

THE.FIST
2009-10-26, 16:50
Is the galil-rifle included ?
nice work btw
yep galil will be included

gazzthompson
2009-10-26, 17:05
Some how I hardly see how a giant mushroom is going to offer protection against being spotted.
......................................

im no expert on the matter but from what i can tell is when scanning a area the first thing a human eye will pick up is the shape of another human, a perfect circle helmet and/or head will stick out very easy.

its also used in western forces tactics when considering camouflage :

The six basics of camouflage and concealment@Everything2.com (http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1452904)

(under shape)

To a human being, the single most distinguishable object in the world, is another human being. So what you want to do is to break up your shape and blend in with the background.

Antonyo
2009-10-26, 17:18
bosco;1168565']Are you sure? ;)

NIce :) so the long distans drawing of kits will be included

Anhkhoa
2009-10-26, 20:27
NIce :) so the long distans drawing of kits will be included

Yep.
0:44 - 1:03

7JC5fno6Uwo

Nebsif
2009-10-26, 21:30
Yep.
0:44 - 1:03

7JC5fno6Uwo

The hand looks so huge.. but I think they changed it to make the aimpoint better (atm I'd choose irons over aimpoint anytime as it blocks 2 much of the screen and doesnt help @ all), sucky aimpoint + sucky burst mode = mega fail in CQB.

Anhkhoa
2009-10-26, 21:38
The hand looks so huge.. but I think they changed it to make the aimpoint better (atm I'd choose irons over aimpoint anytime as it blocks 2 much of the screen)

It's not the size of the hands but rather the size of the weapon in comparison with the hands. The weapons aren't as big as they used to be (0.8) because they were scaled down to have the stock not stick into the shoulder.

Nebsif
2009-10-26, 22:31
It's not the size of the hands but rather the size of the weapon in comparison with the hands. The weapons aren't as big as they used to be (0.8) because they were scaled down to have the stock not stick into the shoulder.

The hand looks too huge, or the weapon looks 2 small, w/e :P However, it should be much better in combat, just took 2 screenies of aimpoint and irons from the 0.9 vid, and then loaded prsp (so i can request any kit) and took 2 screenies at the same place with aimpoint and irons:
0.87:
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3592/pointvsiron.jpg
0.9:
http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/6322/point09.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2880/iron09.jpg

As u can see, in 0.87 the aimpoint sight is GIGANTIC!, + it covers all the windows from that building, but in 0.9 it looks allot smaller and the difference between the two sights isnt that big.

Rudd
2009-10-26, 22:42
afaik the hands and gun are modified seperately :) they'll probs do the hands when they've got their aimpoint how they want.

Chuc
2009-10-26, 22:59
Just so you know, the current ingame first person model for the AR-15 series is nearly 200% oversized.

MisterSparkles
2009-10-27, 12:59
It looks to me that the IDF's weapons are a mix.

Not complaining, a good variety of weapons on the battlefield is good :)