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AncientMan
2009-09-17, 14:25
Most people were probably a bit confused when I posted this developer blog (https://www.realitymod.com/forum/blogs/12510/b91-too-many-numbers.html) a while back. Now that I've got something to show, I might ease that confusion and show you all some screenshots of the new commo rose that myself and [R-DEV]Chuc are making for PR v0.9.

http://realitymodfiles.com/ancient/squadleaderrose1.jpg

http://realitymodfiles.com/ancient/squadleaderrose2.jpg

It's all WIP, some small things will probably change for the final version :).

Rudd
2009-09-17, 14:28
Very nice change, looks professional and informative :)


edit..

what camo is that? looks different.

foxxravin
2009-09-17, 14:33
Wow, nice! looks very good

rampo
2009-09-17, 14:42
HOT! would be so cool if you could customize the color yourself but still HOT!

J.F.Leusch69
2009-09-17, 14:46
looks great,....sooo much different than vbf2!

good job!

StuTika
2009-09-17, 14:59
OK that looks really good! :)

Kranich
2009-09-17, 15:01
It is a good improvement
Very nice work

Gore
2009-09-17, 15:02
Woah looks really modern-like. Soon there won't be any traces of BF2, keep it up! Nice work.

DankE_SPB
2009-09-17, 15:14
will it be offset from centre of the screen?
you already removed reticle from binos but its still possible to aim with commo rose:-)

Mad-Mike
2009-09-17, 15:32
lookin ten times better than the bf2v one we have atm.
Good work mate keep it up

single.shot (nor)
2009-09-17, 15:38
this is really nice and clean-looking. it would be nice to have left-click-scopes, right-click-irons and show those off as another "sidebar" on the menu with a scope pictogram on the left and a "irons"-pictogram.

i would suggest re-arranging the way the classes appear as indicated below.
top to bottom, as suggested:
Crewman
Pilot
HAT
Sniper
AA
Engineer
Medic
Officer
LAT
Grenadier
Marksman
this way, the 5 specialised classes will be on top, and the 2 supportive below that, and then the "squad-kits", starting with the officer. this is more or less useless, but maybe stupid people like me, will understand better if the kits are arranged after what they are used for...

like this: (with some nice looking PRish pictogram instead of text... maybe an M16-style carrying handle in white for irons, and an Acog in white for the scope side)
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee207/by_the_emperor/squadleaderrose2.jpg

Zrix
2009-09-17, 16:06
Looking good :)

And I agree with single.shot (nor), sounds like a good idea.

=Romagnolo=
2009-09-17, 17:08
The little symbols are great ! Nice idea and very well done guys, you all are awesome ! I s2 u

Claymore
2009-09-17, 17:09
Excellent imprevements, the icons are also a good idea.

General Dragosh
2009-09-17, 17:23
OMFG O.O *droll*

That is . . . . *falls over from excitement*

jbgeezer
2009-09-17, 17:31
This is quite hot, I like the illustrations :)

cyberzomby
2009-09-17, 17:45
Awesome work as ever I must say!

Outlawz7
2009-09-17, 18:18
Could remove the extra space next to the kit icons, but overall wtfpwn.

akatabrask
2009-09-17, 18:47
Wow that is looking sweet.
One step further away from vanilla indeed.

I also agree with single.shot about being able to choose between scope/irons but that's another discussion.

Dizakui
2009-09-17, 18:48
That looks really amazing. The symbols fit in really well, and it looks professional.
This keeps on looking better and better.
Great job

Edit: after looking at it again there is one small thing. On the actual kit request I'd suggest moving the text across so theres less space between the edge and the symbol, and maybe putting the ironsights symbol on the right of the text for the kits where you right click to get iron sights. Sortof like what single.shot said.

HangMan_
2009-09-17, 19:49
little things like this make PR so much more professional than the other mods. This will be a great addition to the aesthetics of PR

Tomato-Rifle
2009-09-17, 20:06
Great job!

Nebsif
2009-09-17, 20:15
Cool, btw, is it only me or the weapon looks smaller?

503
2009-09-17, 20:27
Sick. This is absolutely sick. PR would look so sophisticated.

VoXiNaTiOn
2009-09-17, 21:02
Very very nice work!

Rangu
2009-09-17, 21:05
Looks really great, good job guys!

Dev1200
2009-09-17, 21:37
DO WANT.

The rose will look kickass. Good work guys :)

Mad-Mike
2009-09-17, 22:07
i like the idea of the option of iron sights and scopes aswell

-.-Maverick-.-
2009-09-17, 22:28
Looks awesome. Great work.

AncientMan
2009-09-17, 23:18
You can already choose the "alt" kits by right clicking. However, the commorose is static for all factions. Not all "alt" kits are ironsighted, some have an aimpoint for example. So having an icon or text that represents an ironsight wouldn't work that well. I also think it would increase the amount of "icon spam", too many pictures, it would get confusing pretty quickly, it's starting to get there even now. But hey you never know, it is all subject to change :p.

McBumLuv
2009-09-17, 23:43
Mint. Finally the roses are getting a revamp :p

Very polished, though.

jim1994
2009-09-18, 00:00
very nice addition.
Looks very sexy.

bloodthirsty_viking
2009-09-18, 00:15
.... i am speachless, that will help everyone find out wht ppls need =P

great for everyone =) seccially the noobs=P

LithiumFox
2009-09-18, 00:39
J.F.Leusch69;1139620']looks great,....sooo much different than vbf2!

good job!

o.o still.. sandboxe's is super different from vBF2 .... ;) i wish we had a cool glossy finish... XD

Looks nice tho guys! ;) I like the emblems... maybe we could make that the basic look of ALL the menus? Just nice, simple..... grey?

Seiran
2009-09-18, 01:08
Definitely nicer than the current version. And the icon next to the kit selection is a nice touch, and seems like it would make it easier for people to save a few moments picking a kit, as they can match the icons from the squad window to the selection window.

Oak
2009-09-18, 08:33
Very nice, AncientMan. Not only looks professional but this can also really help new players. I especially liked how building icons get a little triangle and the request icons get an exclamation mark, though the symbol for markers is unclear. Maybe just leave it symbol-less, since this is the thing vanilla players are used to anyway. This will better signify that those are the old commands they're used to, and everything else is new.

Also, I'm not sure your about your "icon spam" fear regarding unscoped kits. Consistency is a very important thing in a user interface, in my opinion, and with the main comma rose having an icon for both options it's important for the kit selection menu to behave similarly. Otherwise new users might not be sure that the "x / y" without right icon still responds to right click like the main rose.

As for aimdot / ironsight issue, I think it's actually beneficial to have a single icon for both aimdot and iron sight. In general making icons consistent along different factions is good, whenever possible, especially with PR having a gazillion different ones.

Grasli
2009-09-18, 10:22
i like the idea of the option of iron sights and scopes aswell
Yeah, me too.

AncientMan;1139945']You can already choose the "alt" kits by right clicking. However, the commorose is static for all factions. Not all "alt" kits are ironsighted, some have an aimpoint for example. So having an icon or text that represents an ironsight wouldn't work that well. I also think it would increase the amount of "icon spam", too many pictures, it would get confusing pretty quickly, it's starting to get there even now. But hey you never know, it is all subject to change :p.
So we can already (in 0.87) for example right-click on Officer and get the Iron Sight version of it? Whaat? I didn't know that.. I thought the only way to get it was to spawn with it, and that we only got the Scope version when requesting.. ;)

Anyway, we need to make such things more clearly. Either by the system which single.shot (nor) posted, or make it like the regular commo rose with TEXT / TEXT. That really shows that I can get something else if I right-click.

An example for the kit request menu; Officer (Scope) / Officer (Iron/aimpoint) :D

paratrooper[BG]
2009-09-18, 10:48
nice work :)

SketzoH
2009-09-18, 12:03
looking real good its a nice addition ;)

bearking19
2009-09-18, 12:31
Looking great hope to see this ingame soon

Engineer
2009-09-18, 12:53
Has anyone thought about NATO symbols?

nutter308
2009-09-18, 13:00
V-ery good work, love the new look & icon work + thought that has gone into this ;-)

I must say though that the issue with right-click on Officer and get the Iron Sight version of a kit, could simply be explained with the PR Help HUD for 0.9 (Topic Link) (https://www.realitymod.com/forum/blogs/15429/b63-pr-help-hud-0-9.html). This means that not mtch has to be changed and things dont get confusing ^^

Just an idea i had to prevent too mutch work being done and making things confusing 8-)

Hotrod525
2009-09-18, 14:35
Awesome, how come you guyz always had freaking good idea :P

Grasli
2009-09-18, 14:50
The Officer kit on the request screen should be called:

Officer (Scope) / Officer (Iron)

and the same for other kits which has rightclick too. A system like this clearly shows that we can get another variant of the kit if we right-click. ;)

Zar2Roc
2009-09-18, 16:12
Swap pilot and crewman kit please?

EnermaX
2009-09-18, 16:18
Hell yeah!

LithiumFox
2009-09-18, 17:54
Well... ;) Maybe you could just do something like Weapon/Alt.. so...

Medic/Alt
or
Officer/Alt

Just to show that we CAN get an alternate version at least.... instead of just wondering if i right click if i'll get an alternate version.... ;)

Dawidson<RangersPL>
2009-09-19, 05:56
Look nice

Reach[UA]
2009-09-19, 06:21
It looks great. Probably it was added for people who could not read. :lol:

TGT
2009-09-19, 08:27
Masterpiece :D

arty_bomber
2009-09-19, 10:36
Looks very professional :)

hall0
2009-09-19, 10:51
Very nice :D

Poi_Medic
2009-09-19, 21:03
Still missing "Defend" comma rose.

EricHsuTW
2009-09-20, 16:32
Is all the font in game been changed? (menu, game descriptions..)

or just Q & T pannel?

Grasli
2009-09-20, 21:32
Still missing "Defend" comma rose.
Ye. I have to say I really miss that one. The fact that I have to open the map to issue an "Defend" marker is just...
Put it back into the commo rose please! :D


Also, on the kit request screen, make it so that we can really see that we can get another version of the kits if we right-click. Make it just like the commo rose with placing TEXT / TEXT.
Officer (Scope) / Officer (Iron). For aimpoint versions just put in Aimpoint instead of Iron or something.. ;)

Terminal-Access
2009-09-20, 22:23
Also for the Kit requests (From crates e.t.c) can you guys please add the specialist kit, so many times iv seen people spawn in with out it and go to request it but realise they cant

T.Nightingale
2009-09-21, 02:24
this is really nice and clean-looking. it would be nice to have left-click-scopes, right-click-irons and show those off as another "sidebar" on the menu with a scope pictogram on the left and a "irons"-pictogram.

I really like this idea and i think it really open it up to the people who dont know.

mr.cuddelywuddely
2009-09-21, 17:21
stylish, usefull and sexy.
nice work devs!

Archerchef
2009-09-22, 01:01
cant wait for 0.9! so many new things.. and now this.

AnRK
2009-09-23, 10:46
Ye. I have to say I really miss that one. The fact that I have to open the map to issue an "Defend" marker is just...
Put it back into the commo rose please! :D


Also, on the kit request screen, make it so that we can really see that we can get another version of the kits if we right-click. Make it just like the commo rose with placing TEXT / TEXT.
Officer (Scope) / Officer (Iron). For aimpoint versions just put in Aimpoint instead of Iron or something.. ;)

I get shot enough in the first place looking at my map, would be nice to not have to get the map up for defence. It is a WIP though so I'm sure they'll iron out these kinda things.

PlasmaSoldier
2009-09-24, 14:31
Perfect! It makes the commrose look more cooler then the one before

Garmax
2009-09-24, 17:30
it makes it look more proffesional and awesome, i specially like the exclamation points even though it looks like something from MGS!

goguapsy
2009-09-25, 02:30
will it be offset from centre of the screen?
you already removed reticle from binos but its still possible to aim with commo rose:-)

do you really can't picture a center of the screen?

read at my sig...

Lzryde
2009-09-25, 03:36
Very nice change, looks professional and informative :)


edit..

what camo is that? looks different.

Definitely.

Looks much more polished. Fantastic.

DankE_SPB
2009-09-25, 09:03
do you really can't picture a center of the screen?
read at my sig...

you got to live in other universe, but i can't see "i can't picture centre of screen" in my post
it just seems illogical to remove reticle from binos to prevent aiming with it but saving commo-rose which acts like a reticle

Poi_Medic
2009-09-25, 20:05
I wouldn't mind the move or attack button for the squad leader to be in the middle. Its easier that way.

TheLean
2009-09-28, 19:51
AncientMan;1139945']You can already choose the "alt" kits by right clicking. However, the commorose is static for all factions. Not all "alt" kits are ironsighted, some have an aimpoint for example. So having an icon or text that represents an ironsight wouldn't work that well. I also think it would increase the amount of "icon spam", too many pictures, it would get confusing pretty quickly, it's starting to get there even now. But hey you never know, it is all subject to change :p.

I didnt know this so apparently it not a totally bad idea.

Grasli
2009-10-05, 22:13
So whats the current status on this? We need some sort of indication that we can get another variant of the kit by right-clicking on the kit we want to request. Imo it would be easy to have it like this:

Officer (Scope) / Officer (Iron).
Grenadier (Scope) / Grenadier (Iron). Afaik Grenadiers will get this option as well.. ;)

Another solution would be to just add another set of icons down on the right side (just like on the left side), however they would have to show the Iron sights and not Scope of course. But the thing is, the regular commo rose (not the request menu) have both of these things. It has icons on both sides and / to show differences between left and right-click. Why cant the kit request menu have the same system? ;)


Also, getting "Defend" back on the commo rose would be nice! :D

major sharpe
2009-10-28, 21:22
well done