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Sgt_Doctor
2009-08-19, 15:03
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/Panhard_AML-90_img_2308.jpg/600px-Panhard_AML-90_img_2308.jpg

The Panhard AML (called the AML 245 by Panhard) 60/90 is a light armoured car with permanent 4×4 drive for mobility. It can carry either a 90 mm quick firing low pressure gun, or a 60 mm breech loading mortar as main weapons.

During the 1950s, the French Army used the Daimler Ferret in large numbers but decided to build their own armoured car and Panhard started the production of the AML in 1960. Since then over 4000 vehicles have been completed and manufacture continues for the export market. The AML 60/90 have been sold to over 30 countries. In addition to the French production, 1300 AML 60/90 were built under licence by South Africa under the name of Eland 60/90.

An armoured personnel carrier (APC) version was also developed, the Panhard M3. The M3 and the AML share 95% of working parts, encouraging many countries to employ both the M3 and the AML in order to reduce operational costs.


Operators :

* Algeria: 55/44 AML-60
* Argentina: 48 AML-90
* Bahrain: 48, 22 AML-90 and 26 AML-60
* Benin: 22
* Bosnia and Herzegovina: 12
* Burkina Faso: 15
* Burundi: 18
* Chad: 50
* Côte d'Ivoire: 16, 8 AML-90 and 6 AML-60
* Djibouti: 24
* Gabon: 24
* Ecuador: 27
* Egypt
* El Salvador: 10 AML-90
* Iraq: 10
* Republic of Ireland: 47
* Kenya: 72
* Lebanon: 70, 60 AML-90
* Lesotho: 10
* Malawi: 13
* Malaysia: 140 AML-60
* Mauritania: 60, 39 AML-90 and 20 AML-60
* Mexico
* Morocco: 230, 140 AML-90 and 38 AML-60
* Myanmar
* Nigeria: 180, 120 AML-90 and 60 AML-60
* Niger: 125
* Polisario captured from morocco
* Portugal: 40, 15 AML-90 and 32 AML-60
* Rwanda: 12 AML-60
* Saudi Arabia: 300/235
* Senegal: 57, 24 AML-90 and 28 AML-60
* Somaliland
* South Africa: 118
* Sudan: 6 AML-90
* Togo: 10
* Tunisia: 35, 20 AML-90 and 10 AML-60
* United Arab Emirates: 50, 49 AML-90
* Venezuela: 22
* Yemen: 185
* Zimbabwe: 20 AML-90
(Source : Wikipedia.)

http://uppix.net/f/2/e/5e907c885638329673b1afa32de44tt.jpg (http://uppix.net/f/2/e/5e907c885638329673b1afa32de44.html)
(Made by bao, of course. 3600 tri.)


AND DON'T FORGET : WIP !

MAINERROR
2009-08-19, 15:47
Looks good. Can't wait for more pics. :)

Btw. is this Bao some sort of machine?

Sgt_Doctor
2009-08-19, 15:52
The greatest man i ever seen ! :-D

No, seriously Bao does an amazing job.

smart_boy00
2009-08-19, 15:55
I am looking forward to following your updates on this! Can't wait!

MAINERROR
2009-08-19, 15:59
Seems like he does not need any sleep. Weird man. :D

McBumLuv
2009-08-19, 16:55
Dites à Bao que je lui félicite sur tous ses accomplissements, ils sont excellents :)

Hope my grammar's not off, it's been a while since I've had the chance to write in french ;)

Anyways, it's coming along quite well, I can't wait to see some of the detail added to it all. Also, that thing looks quite puny, even smaller than the Warrior IFV :o (Or is it the Scimitar? I can't ever seem to remember)

Sgt_Doctor
2009-08-19, 17:11
No, your french is good ! ;)

(And, it's the Scimitar.)

steve_06-07
2009-08-19, 17:55
This looks like it would be a great hit and run vehicle. The african faction comes out of the jungle with one of these, hits a leclerc or supply truck, then hightales it out of there before the leclerc has a chance to fire back.

Sgt_Doctor
2009-08-19, 22:47
I imagine more a combat with an AMX 10 RC vs a T62, and an ERC 90 vs an AML 90.

MMad
2009-08-20, 12:13
My, that's a weird vehicle. :) Cool stuff, keep it up!

sheggalism
2009-08-20, 18:14
Keep up the good work Bao ! Cheers :smile:

This looks like it would be a great hit and run vehicle. The african faction comes out of the jungle with one of these, hits a leclerc or supply truck, then hightales it out of there before the leclerc has a chance to fire back.

I think its main gun would be close to something like an AT-4 in terms of anti-tank capability. Dunno if it has HEAT rounds or APFDS, or even anti-personnel rounds.

IIRC, this kind of light vehicle with high-caliber gun cannot fire on the move (or maybe on some kind of low-speed cruise throttle...) without making a nice backflip stunt :o

And it sounds logical to me that its turret has mainly a anti-personnel use (thanks to the coaxial MG), and the vehicle acts as some kind of modern StuG, with limited firing positions and accuracy.

Does someone here know his stuff about this kind of vehicle ?

FLOZi
2009-08-21, 13:21
I'm fairly sure the only AT round for the AML-90 will be HEAT, iirc it's a low pressure gun.

VisOne
2009-08-21, 14:11
Anyone noticed that the main reference picture has a flat front left tire. :D

Also I assume your well aware of this but it won't hurt to mention the barrel of your WIP shot is about twice the size of the reference pictures. Although everything else looks fine especially giving its such a early shot.

jbgeezer
2009-08-24, 16:18
Strange looking tank :/ nice start of model though ;)

162eRI
2009-08-25, 20:39
Thanks all for the feedback ;)

Also I assume your well aware of this but it won't hurt to mention the barrel of your WIP shot is about twice the size of the reference pictures. Although everything else looks fine especially giving its such a early shot.
Don't worry, thank you to mention it thought ;)

Here some pictures of AML-90 in use in African armies
http://armyreco.ifrance.com/afrique/gabon/vehicules_a_roues/aml-90/aml-90_1_gabon.jpg
http://armyreco.ifrance.com/afrique/somalie/vehicules_a_roues/aml-90/aml-90_1_somalie.jpg
http://www.armyrecognition.com/Afrique/Tchad/vehicules_a_roues/AML-90/Chad_Army_AML-90_07012008_news_001.jpg
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/2327/aml90ho7.jpg
http://armyreco.ifrance.com/afrique/nigeria/vehicules_a_roues/aml-90/aml-90_1_nigere.jpg
http://www.armyrecognition.com/Afrique/Senegale/vehicules_a_roues/AML-90/Senegale_AML-90_1.jpg


Like I said in the other thread, we could imagine a Western African Conventional Army with the AML-90 (like in the first pix), in Central Africa, insurgents with AML-90 (like the third pix) and in Eastern Africa, rebels with damaged AML-90 (like in the second pix)

162eRI
2009-08-29, 18:12
http://uppix.net/2/c/9/51f1a8cd04274d5c14df4d73487d6tt.jpg (http://uppix.net/2/c/9/51f1a8cd04274d5c14df4d73487d6.jpg)

http://uppix.net/f/4/2/003b345e20a167352586e88222eb6t.jpg (http://uppix.net/f/4/2/003b345e20a167352586e88222eb6.html)http://uppix.net/d/a/7/3d05640fc69b3d9b80077e4571123t.jpg (http://uppix.net/d/a/7/3d05640fc69b3d9b80077e4571123.html)
http://uppix.net/1/5/9/371cc702f461b3a7b6977d06d7a34t.jpg (http://uppix.net/1/5/9/371cc702f461b3a7b6977d06d7a34.html)http://uppix.net/2/e/b/15f29a518bdb5477117dc0b8f296bt.jpg
(http://uppix.net/2/e/b/15f29a518bdb5477117dc0b8f296b.html)
Model by Bao. Tri 6055.
Enjoy!!!

I'm gonna check for the barrel size and the wheels. They seem too big.

MAINERROR
2009-08-29, 18:20
162eRI;1123846']I'm gonna check for the barrel size and the wheels. They seem too big.

Was going to say that. Other than that it looks ace. :)

Wilkinson
2009-08-29, 21:02
If the barrel is to big that can be scaled down no worries. Still looks real ace. Bao needs to learn English and get on the forums

DankE_SPB
2009-08-29, 21:21
will this thingie make a ninja side flip if you try to shoot at +-90 degrees turret traverse position? :-P:-P:-P


looks ace!

anglomanii
2009-08-30, 02:10
i think you will find the gun is not overly, over powered. from what i have read its not like its a AT gun.

MMad
2009-08-30, 10:49
Does anyone know the rate of fire of the gun on this thing? I've been trying to find it through google, no luck as of yet... the same gun on a different turret and vehicle seems to fire about 10 rds/min. Does that sound about right?

162eRI
2009-08-30, 11:17
Well, I found none informations... But 10 rds/min seems too much IMO.

In 1961, Panhard adapts a turret carrying a rifled canon D921 F-1 90-mm with 20 rounds. The validity of the concept has been confirmed by the Israeli army and South Africa who have successfully undertaken 90 AML against type T-54 or T-55 medium tanks .

I love this picture. Lebanon AML-90
http://www.armyrecognition.com/moyen_orient/Liban/vehicules_a_roues/AML-90/AML-90_1_LIBAN.JPG

ShockUnitBlack
2011-05-25, 00:16
Peanut-gallery lobbyist time.

This might be an interesting vehicle for the MEC to go around pimping in, serving as a sort of Scimitar/AMX-10 RC equivalent while the AU gets finished up. Your source had Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and the UAE operating the vehicle, the Saudis in large numbers, so it probably wouldn't be all that unrealistic. It'd be a great way to get the vehicle into the game, anyway.

simeon5541
2011-05-25, 01:29
This looks like something from Wacky Races !! XD

maniac1031
2011-05-25, 02:55
This is a sweet looking vehicle looks a bit like one of the US armored cars from ww2.

=]H[= Apollo
2011-05-25, 13:56
that baby tank looks sooo adorable!

Redamare
2011-07-14, 04:47
Its been Quite a while . . .. is it finshed?? 2009 to now? ... probly is done I HOPE its done :)

Rhino
2012-05-03, 07:12
Bumpy.

Any updates on this Bao? We could use it for PR:Falklands as the Argies used a few ;)

I believed they used the AML 90 version with the 90mm gun too in the Falklands :D

Hauteclocque
2012-05-05, 13:33
Bao has been AFK for the past few months.

I guess the model isn't 100% finished. Bao only worked on French and PR stuff since 2010, I suppose he hasn't made progress on this asset.

Swaggzor
2012-05-05, 18:52
Any knowledge on how long he will be gone for haute?

Redamare
2012-08-04, 05:40
well 5/2/12 has been a while until now thought i would re open this Wheres Bao question.. Any one hear from him? i know Rhinos still working like a champ on that falkland project it would be nice to see this model show up for that.

http://www.nerdsraging.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/waldo1.jpg

Rhino
2012-10-04, 20:20
Rhino;1767263']Bumpy.

Any updates on this Bao? We could use it for PR:Falklands as the Argies used a few ;)

I believed they used the AML 90 version with the 90mm gun too in the Falklands :D

Hauteclocque;1768170']Bao has been AFK for the past few months.

I guess the model isn't 100% finished. Bao only worked on French and PR stuff since 2010, I suppose he hasn't made progress on this asset.

As per the Falklands Community Tasks (http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f388-pr-bf2-community-modding/110920-falklands-community-tasks.html#post1773627) topic it seems that there is very little chance of Bao finishing this so if anyone wants to give it a shot let both ARF and PR:F know as we both could really use this! ;)

ZondaX15
2012-10-09, 02:47
What does it need to be finished? Is the mesh complete?

Rhino
2012-10-09, 02:54
We don't have the mesh from Bao and most likely never will so needs to be made again from scratch.

ZondaX15
2012-10-09, 03:27
That's a shame. I'll give it a shot once I've finished the Dyna