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-kodiak-
2009-08-13, 07:39
Sometimes during production things may need to be redone and the hours spent on a model or texture are thrown out the window almost immediately. That was the case for the original SVD model I created. It was good, but not good enough for PR standards. But it had potential so I was given the task to remake the SVD adding more detail where needed and a list of things needed to be changed before it was worthy.

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l197/Tac0m/3D%20Art/SVD-render.jpg

This is a WIP of the new improved Russian SVD I'm in the process of creating. I was pretty much told to go nuts on this model and so I did. There is faaaar more modeling detail on this SVD than the previous. Nosferatu has guided me through this weapon from almost the beginning this time. Give that guy props, he knows his stuff.

miner
2009-08-13, 10:32
Lookking great, too bad your last model got trashed :( but whats up with the bipod? Never seen one on SVD :P

Aquiller
2009-08-13, 10:34
GJ kodiak and Nosferatu!

single.shot (nor)
2009-08-13, 10:38
A-mazing. Great job!

Did u make a bipodless version for da Chechens?

Tonnie
2009-08-13, 10:38
cats out now ;) nice work

Rangu
2009-08-13, 11:00
Looks very nice!

Proceed
2009-08-13, 11:02
Looks great m8 !
@miner
I have already shot it with bipod, and I think google should have some pics ;)

cyberzomby
2009-08-13, 11:09
+1 for both of you than! Looking ACE!

Stiller_001
2009-08-13, 11:52
Looks cool, nice work mate!

akatabrask
2009-08-13, 12:08
Wow, thats really a good piece of craftmanship there. Good job! :)

wookimonsta
2009-08-13, 12:32
looks good enough to eat

paratrooper[BG]
2009-08-13, 12:41
very good nice work

Threedroogs
2009-08-13, 15:50
wow...looks sexy! i may have to start using this bad boy.

Polka
2009-08-13, 16:21
Pretty epic.

Bob_Marley
2009-08-13, 16:42
I see the thread title is suffering from RAS :p

Still looks pretty damn nice.

-kodiak-
2009-08-13, 17:18
Thanks guys, and yes it is able to get a bipod. There's a kaka load of images on google if you search it.

McBumLuv
2009-08-13, 17:32
Looking awesome again :p

What was the problem with the last one, though? Specifically, I mean.

Rhino
2009-08-13, 17:44
What was the problem with the last one, though? Specifically, I mean.

I believe from a MA point of view it wasn't accurate to the real life SVD.

McBumLuv
2009-08-13, 17:46
Rhino;1111417']I believe from a MA point of view it wasn't accurate to the real life SVD.

Ok, I see, I thought it was something like an optimisation problem or something like that :D

[wow]titan
2009-08-13, 17:52
NiCe :D
current model looks like stick with optics

Rudd
2009-08-13, 18:46
I've never seen a rifle with the bipod so near the trigger, interesting.

DankE_SPB
2009-08-13, 18:53
I've never seen a rifle with the bipod so near the trigger, interesting.

there are different approaches to this
http://liveguns.ru/files/SVDSM_2.jpg
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/svdk.jpg
http://i2.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/000753/753402.jpg
http://i2.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/000755/755056.jpg

Nosferatu
2009-08-13, 18:54
Props to kodiak, unlike some of his predecessors, he worked hard and succesfully enough to avoid meeting with black trucks.

After proper texturing this model would be what Zangieff calls "BOLSHOY POBEDA!"©

Lemon
2009-08-13, 19:20
wow great detail man! Keep it up!

Zoddom
2009-08-13, 19:48
http://www.dragunov.net/action/russian_svd_pose.jpg
bipod is ok

ReadMenace
2009-08-13, 20:01
http://www.dragunov.net/action/russian_svd_pose.jpg
bipod is ok

Subtitle for that picture is "Posing with Russian equipment."

Anyways not only is this an authentic bipod to be used on an SVD, it is also superior to other mounting solutions. Because the SVD barrel is not free-floated, upward pressure on the handguard or barrel can cause a shift in the point of impact -- by mounting the bipod on the receiver, this problem is somewhat relieved.

-REad

smart_boy00
2009-08-13, 20:04
Looks very nice!

Zrix
2009-08-13, 20:20
fap fap fap fap

ryan d ale
2009-08-13, 20:53
Amazing job.

When I saw it all I could think was 'awesome'. As far as detail goes this weapon seems to outclass others (imo) simply because there is a good level of detail on the real thing so you can go nuts on the model.

-kodiak-
2009-08-13, 21:51
Thanks for all the positive feedback guys. I'm going into the texturing stage on this weapon now. So keep your eyes peeled for more WIP renders.

JacenSolo
2009-08-13, 23:28
Very nice!! Bravo!

rangedReCon
2009-08-14, 04:38
Oh god, it is so beautiful.

Maxfragg
2009-08-14, 08:53
really nice, i guess there will be a wodden stock version as well for the insurgents?

SilentNoobAssasin
2009-08-14, 16:12
Nice work.. thumbs up ;)

-kodiak-
2009-08-14, 17:46
Yes there will be an insurgent version as well with some changes to make it fit the insugent role.

hiberNative
2009-08-14, 17:58
receiver looks way too high/fat in my opinion.
but VERY nice details.

berny
2009-08-14, 20:12
nice !!!

Snowmonc
2009-08-14, 22:55
Almost shit myself to death :o Awwwwwwesome :o

redbutcher(#1sniper)
2009-08-15, 02:39
Nice, makes me wish I had a bipod for mine 8-)

EnermaX
2009-08-15, 12:15
Awesome!

ObeerBongKenobi
2009-08-16, 00:29
Where do you think you're going soldier?!!
Keep up the good work or you'll be punished! :clap:

ProfDrBANane
2009-08-19, 22:09
hmm... its just a suggestion... but i think the bipod on a dragunov is normally fixed to the barrel.

gazzthompson
2009-08-19, 22:17
hmm... its just a suggestion... but i think the bipod on a dragunov is normally fixed to the barrel.

read the thread:

there are different approaches to this
http://liveguns.ru/files/SVDSM_2.jpg
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/svdk.jpg
http://i2.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/000753/753402.jpg
http://i2.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/000755/755056.jpg

Howitzer
2009-08-19, 22:38
in this case you WANT to use a single URL like

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f196-pr-highlights/65476-weapon-dragunov-svd-3.html#post1111456

Black Magic
2009-08-20, 02:29
love it, looks awesome!

BlackMagikz
2009-08-20, 05:38
we need MOAR sexy Russian weapons!!!!!

Froztbyte
2009-08-21, 07:38
SVD looks swweeeeeett

ComradeHX
2009-08-22, 08:23
-kodiak-;1110950']
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l197/Tac0m/3D%20Art/SVD-render.jpg


It looks okay except: the bayonet lug could be bigger, and you modeled the handguard after a wooden-furniture SVD but the stock is modeled after the polymer stock... The front of the handguard is more rounded on the polymer version.

It could be just me, but the barrel to handguard length ratio seems a bit off.

There are also some pretty obvious differences, but I think you can put those other handguard details on the textures.

Also, please consider the exact POSP scope model you are modeling it after.

http://www.kalinkaoptics.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=54

P.S. - It looks like you were modeling the exact opposite of this:http://www.armsandammunitions.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/svd_dragunov.jpg (pic: wooden stock, polymer handguard, 3d model - polymer stock, wooden handguard).

-kodiak-
2009-08-22, 09:12
It looks okay except: the bayonet lug could be bigger, and you modeled the handguard after a wooden-furniture SVD but the stock is modeled after the polymer stock... The front of the handguard is more rounded on the polymer version.

It could be just me, but the barrel to handguard length ratio seems a bit off.

There are also some pretty obvious differences, but I think you can put those other handguard details on the textures.

Also, please consider the exact POSP scope model you are modeling it after.

Rifle Scopes - POSP - Fixed Mag - Kalinka Optics Warehouse® (http://www.kalinkaoptics.com/SearchResult.aspx?CategoryID=54)

P.S. - It looks like you were modeling the exact opposite of this:http://www.armsandammunitions.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/svd_dragunov.jpg (pic: wooden stock, polymer handguard, 3d model - polymer stock, wooden handguard).

Great post, i love getting torn apart lol :)

Ok the POSP i modeled it after would be the 4x24 i believe. It's a popular scope for the AK and SVD. I'm not an MA so please excuse me if i'm wrong. The bayonet lug seems fine to me, and the barrel length also is fine. It could just be the perspective angle that it was rendered at. Could you please post the pretty obvious differences you found on this? As you stated there are some things that will not be modeled and just textured in. I have a feeling i know what your going to point out and yes, it will look like two separate pieces and those lines at the front will also be textured/normal mapped. I checked my material and i don't see what your talking about the handguard. It's rounded where it needs to be and it's been approved by our MA's who have the 3d model to view. Nos has a keen eye for these things so i'd trust his judgement when he says it's A ok to go.

DankE_SPB
2009-08-22, 10:13
Also, please consider the exact POSP scope model you are modeling it after.


afaik standard issue for SVD is PSO-1 scopes and/or its modifications, POSP is civil version of it, not sure if they look same

proportions are ok imo, look at other pics in his album;-)

ComradeHX
2009-08-23, 01:18
afaik standard issue for SVD is PSO-1 scopes and/or its modifications, POSP is civil version of it, not sure if they look same


Really, there is no such thing as standard issued optics(SVD could be one of the exceptions, but I am not 100% sure on that because I have seen many other optics on a SVD), anything you see on the papers are only on paper, unless we are talking about some of the special forces(hell, there is a unit that is currently testing out Western gears and aimpoints and stuff) which I am sure PR is not going to have.

POSP is not the civilian version, it is just of less quality, but cheaper.

ComradeHX
2009-08-23, 01:22
-kodiak-;1118561'] it will look like two separate pieces and those lines at the front will also be textured/normal mapped. I checked my material and i don't see what your talking about the handguard. It's rounded where it needs to be and it's been approved by our MA's who have the 3d model to view. Nos has a keen eye for these things so i'd trust his judgement when he says it's A ok to go.

That was what I was looking for.

Good to hear that you are going to make it correct.

Now, if only the serial numbers/factory stamps can be put onto the textures...(probably not possible).

Mechanic
2009-08-23, 04:35
Personally I think the bipod needs to be taken off, NO GOOD!
Also the buttplate needs to be change a little very rough no good.
Looks very rough overall...

ReadMenace
2009-08-23, 04:51
POSP is not the civilian version, it is just of less quality, but cheaper.

PSOs manufactured for use by the Russians are from in Novosibirsk, Russia -- POSPs are manufactured in Belarus, by BelOMO.

-REad

D2v0n279
2009-08-23, 06:55
Much better model and now.. if you could get some other models done also... *looks away*

DankE_SPB
2009-08-23, 07:26
POSP is not the civilian version, it is just of less quality, but cheaper.

this= civilian;-) lesser quality, lesser durability, lesser reliability, higher weather restrictions, when i started to look for differences i usually found that POSP was installed on Tigr, Saiga etc., not in russian army
about "standard issue"
i hope you dont expect that conscripts are buying optics and other equipment, so they have what they've been issued or, if we're talking about war, what they taken from enemy/dead friendlies

RdClZn
2009-08-26, 23:21
I think DankE is right...
SVD is equipped with the 4x PSO-1M2 optical
sight, with an illuminated sighting mark
and a screen for detecting IR sources. The sight
is provided with a target range scale, as well as
a range and a lateral adjustment input device.
For firing at night, the optical sight can be
replaced with a night one. A standard attachment
point can mount various day and night
sights. A mechanical sight comprises an
adjustable foresight and a selector-type backsight.
Is this useful?

-kodiak-
2009-08-27, 04:39
Actually yes the serial number and stuff will be able to be textured on. There will be a lot of detail added once i bake the normal from a high rez model.

The "buttplate" or buttstock yes does look a little rough, but since you will never see the backside of the buttstock (unless there is an idle animation i don't know about) it would be a waste of polys to add to a part that will not be seen. Even in 3p view the buttstock end will almost always be covered by the shoulder, aaaaannnd if seen from 3p view it will still be high enough detail to produce a great overall final high quality that meets the high PR standards C:

I will hopefully be posting new renders either tonight or tomorrow.

diogo25
2009-08-27, 16:26
yeah that dragunov is great

Dirgenator
2009-08-28, 04:34
Looking great. Think your gonna make an even better model.

Ome99
2009-09-03, 17:57
for those who want to see a real SVD with a bipod, watch this:
K1tVsFwrGgs
you can see a trainee using a snow camouflaged SVD with a bipod at 0:20

Sgt.Desert Tiger[TR]
2009-09-09, 12:21
Good work:wink:

EasyField
2009-09-13, 08:18
wow! That's awesome!

strongbird
2009-09-13, 22:57
nice one i like;)

EnermaX
2009-09-14, 10:45
for those who want to see a real SVD with a bipod...


Stop complaining. Tank you.

Swat54swe
2009-09-24, 18:15
Great work dude!

Lzryde
2009-09-25, 04:43
Very nice

WeeGeez
2009-10-08, 19:47
Nice Gunnn :D
Cant wait to see more WIP

tommytgun
2009-10-12, 16:24
Looks great, can't wait to see it skinned & try it out.
Also, will the Insurgents/Taliban/Militia also have this? Or only the Russians?

Nibbit
2009-10-12, 16:42
Looking good man, good work!

Pronck
2009-10-12, 18:35
it looks great!

LeChuckle
2009-10-12, 19:31
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/images/pr/rating/rating_5.gif

JSteger
2009-10-22, 22:16
Any updated pics of the model or perhaps a render/textured version?

Awesome work btw

Antilopax
2009-10-27, 17:15
nice one!

major sharpe
2009-10-27, 21:58
how do they doo that? thats sooooo awsome

StealthBanana
2009-10-28, 16:15
will this version of the svd be available to the Iraqi Insurgents aswell?

Bazul14
2009-11-01, 00:13
i don't think so, insurgents use the old SDV, vietnam style