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Astromici
2009-01-24, 07:26
Not blaming specific people, and maybe it's the night with the monster energy drinks everyone's hopped up on, but everyone seems like they've been playing PR for 2 months.

1:Lotsa rushing. The common scenario where one guy goes ahead of the others and tries to storm a .50. Squad leader did this too :evil:

2.Lack of leadership. The only orders being given are: Get in the truck! Shoot the tank! Attack this position! We're going to stay here and defend!

Compared to: I want you to be a medic, you to be a rifleman, etc. ; Split up into two teams. Team one will supress and team 2 will flank. ; Get back here! Stay with your squad! ; Optical sights in the back, irons in the front ; Specialist, get over here and blast this lock!

3.General stupidity: Squad leaders grabbing APC's and crewmans, the medic saying it's too much work reviveing people, a certain person blasting music into the microphone making it hard to hear squad lead's orders, choppers dropping people off in the wrong place, and lots of other bits of idiocy.

BTW, all this was from three rounds.

The good thing is: Great job devs! I want to personally thank the people responsible for the animation and HUD design. It seems a lot more open and natural now, like it's not a game. One qualm: If you don't want directional arrows on the infantry icons, at least give the player a facing arrow. I walked back to main thinking I was going to a control point.

Swe_Olsson
2009-01-24, 07:37
new releases attracts new players, players without any experience, This is/was expected. Lets just hope that the experienced people step up and teach these new players how PR meant to be played.

Far to many times i've seen locked up squads, leaving many new bloods on the side. We're all newbies at one time, good squad leaders takes PR to a whole different level.

Cheers

Astromici
2009-01-24, 07:41
No, I'm not saying there's a lot of new newbies. I'm saying there's a lot of old newbies. All the PR vets suddenly turned nOOb. Maybe it'll be better tommorow.

Alex6714
2009-01-24, 07:45
No, I'm not saying there's a lot of new newbies. I'm saying there's a lot of old newbies. All the PR vets suddenly turned nOOb. Maybe it'll be better tommorow.

I kind of agree with you, but its probably everyone just trying out new stuff.

CAS_117
2009-01-24, 07:46
If you don't want to/can't cope with other players behavior you probably don't want to be in a sandbox game.

Solid Knight
2009-01-24, 07:47
People aren't used to the changes yet. You don't just jump into a map with new game mechanics that you've never played before and suddenly have an expert plan for assaulting the enemy.

Tartantyco
2009-01-24, 07:56
-American servers. What else do you expect?

Skodz
2009-01-24, 08:20
I kind of agree with you, but its probably everyone just trying out new stuff.

yeah

Dunehunter
2009-01-24, 08:47
Every new release brings an influx of new players, or people who used to play but dropped out a while ago. It gets better over time ;)

Though, truth be told, the first round I played (Fallujah West), was one of my best in ages. When we had to cross a field, we split up so we could cover each other etc.

h0mie
2009-01-24, 08:52
Well actually im also having really good rounds now, maybe even because everyone is a little bit less professional, so theres just a little more action than in normal PR

.blend
2009-01-24, 08:52
Normally when you go SL out of necessity, you get maybe 3 good teamplayers with experience, 1 noob, whos willing to learn and one sniper/jackass/noob. Now and for maybe a week you'll be getting 1 good teamplayer with experience, 1 vet that just wants to try out the new kits, 1 noob that is willing to learn and 2 snipers/jackass/noobs.
So ppl like me, that dont SL out of pure want, will just resignate.
...i think i'll try to make a "4 new players" sq next time, maybe thatll help. Or ill have 2 sniper kits on my hands.

PFunk
2009-01-24, 08:58
Its a fact of life with new releases. I remember playing the first public released Alpha for Resistance and Liberation. Very small tight community there, very much a heavy realism oriented mod. For some reason this one kid had downloaded it and was team killing the teams in spawn on one map and would 'even things up' by switching which team he TKed every few minutes.

Its part of new releases. You should console yourself by playing with a friend. Friends help us tremendously through this difficult time. :D

Airsoft
2009-01-24, 14:20
Yeah not everyone in right now is a .8 veteran moving to .85. I still see a lot of 1 man tanking, people with no voip or clue how to play the game. Soon it will stop and people who don't like how this game will play will move to somewhere else and ones veterans or intrested in this sort of thing would stay.

socomseal45
2009-01-24, 17:35
I played 3 rounds last night and only 1 seemed really crappy. My first round was great, I was able to finally hit someone at range.

WilsonPL
2009-01-24, 17:46
Ive played few roounds on Kozelsk (various servers) and Chcechens didnt used these Anti Tank BRDMs i dont know why..

daranz
2009-01-24, 17:57
I can't make it to my usual favorite servers, cause they're all full. So, I did not experience that much teamwork lately.

Yesterday was good, before everyone and their dog downloaded .85. Even still, people are still getting used to a lot of things, and are trying out a lot of new weapons. Hell, even I was reluctant to go civvie (something I usually did in .8 out of necessity), because I wanted to try the new toys.

Oh, and on one server, there was so much SL shuffling that I became SL within under a second of joining a squad. I literally clicked "join," blinked, and saw that I was SL.

supahpingi
2009-01-24, 18:03
No, I'm not saying there's a lot of new newbies. I'm saying there's a lot of old newbies.


Lol,now that makes sense :grin:

Doom721
2009-01-24, 18:04
To quote the OP - Squad leaders getting crewman kits isn't a bad thing as long as your running a tank or apc-trasport/logisitcs squad :P

Now if you had an infantry squad... and then he *was leading* then switched yeah I could see the problem there lol

For the most part be ready to explain basic things to people who haven't read the manual ( big mistake! ) or just don't plain know how mechanics work in the game ( I.E. How do I get a kit, how do I use this vehicle, whats the collborator phone for :P )

Rudd
2009-01-24, 18:06
I keep having to tell my clanmates off for running off....

though I've been pretty fail as well tbh

Killarfromduty
2009-01-24, 21:02
Not blaming specific people, and maybe it's the night with the monster energy drinks everyone's hopped up on, but everyone seems like they've been playing PR for 2 months.

1:Lotsa rushing. The common scenario where one guy goes ahead of the others and tries to storm a .50. Squad leader did this too :evil:

2.Lack of leadership. The only orders being given are: Get in the truck! Shoot the tank! Attack this position! We're going to stay here and defend!

Compared to: I want you to be a medic, you to be a rifleman, etc. ; Split up into two teams. Team one will supress and team 2 will flank. ; Get back here! Stay with your squad! ; Optical sights in the back, irons in the front ; Specialist, get over here and blast this lock!

3.General stupidity: Squad leaders grabbing APC's and crewmans, the medic saying it's too much work reviveing people, a certain person blasting music into the microphone making it hard to hear squad lead's orders, choppers dropping people off in the wrong place, and lots of other bits of idiocy.

BTW, all this was from three rounds.

The good thing is: Great job devs! I want to personally thank the people responsible for the animation and HUD design. It seems a lot more open and natural now, like it's not a game. One qualm: If you don't want directional arrows on the infantry icons, at least give the player a facing arrow. I walked back to main thinking I was going to a control point.
Maybe you should calm down and be patient and maybe help the newbies.

Without these "noobs" PR wouldn't have had any community at all. You were a noob once too.

Rhino
2009-01-24, 21:19
yes there are lots of "noobs" in v0.85 just dont be all crappy towards them since just remember, at one point you where also a "noob".

Tell them on VOIP how to do stuff, how they should play, whats the best way to aim and kill some one etc. That way they will become a decent PR player.

Killarfromduty
2009-01-24, 21:26
Not blaming specific people, and maybe it's the night with the monster energy drinks everyone's hopped up on, but everyone seems like they've been playing PR for 2 months.

1:Lotsa rushing. The common scenario where one guy goes ahead of the others and tries to storm a .50. Squad leader did this too :evil:

2.Lack of leadership. The only orders being given are: Get in the truck! Shoot the tank! Attack this position! We're going to stay here and defend!

Compared to: I want you to be a medic, you to be a rifleman, etc. ; Split up into two teams. Team one will supress and team 2 will flank. ; Get back here! Stay with your squad! ; Optical sights in the back, irons in the front ; Specialist, get over here and blast this lock!

3.General stupidity: Squad leaders grabbing APC's and crewmans, the medic saying it's too much work reviveing people, a certain person blasting music into the microphone making it hard to hear squad lead's orders, choppers dropping people off in the wrong place, and lots of other bits of idiocy.

BTW, all this was from three rounds.

The good thing is: Great job devs! I want to personally thank the people responsible for the animation and HUD design. It seems a lot more open and natural now, like it's not a game. One qualm: If you don't want directional arrows on the infantry icons, at least give the player a facing arrow. I walked back to main thinking I was going to a control point.

Rhino;914774']yes there are lots of "noobs" in v0.85 just dont be all crappy towards them since just remember, at one point you where also a "noob".

Tell them on VOIP how to do stuff, how they should play, whats the best way to aim and kill some one etc. That way they will become a decent PR player.
Thats exactly the same way i got teached in PR. A friendly guy taught me everything

NyteMyre
2009-01-24, 21:35
I noticed that at the start of a new release (usually only the first 2 days) there's a higher teamwork going on then normal.

Probably because all the die hard fans get the release first :p

Alex6714
2009-01-24, 22:04
No one minds the newbies, its the noobs that people don´t like.:p

Cobhris
2009-01-24, 22:56
Last 3-4 games, I've ended up on teams where I went to about 3 different squads and the only guy using his mic was me. The one time I ended up leading, everyone was off doing his own thing and we could hardly get people together to set a rally. But I bet a lot of the vet noobs are just people who are having fun playing with all the new weapons. It'll settle eventually.

Nickbond592
2009-01-25, 00:09
No one minds the newbies, its the noobs that people don´t like.:p

you used to be cool alex, :(

DannyIMK
2009-01-25, 13:12
i don't use VoIP but does that mean that im a noob?

i don't have a mic, but because i don't have Voip i don't lead squads etc or do activities that you gotta act fast like tank/heli . only things like building etc. but i listen to other squad members.

i always look for tactical squad cause they are fun

General_J0k3r
2009-01-25, 15:42
i don't use VoIP but does that mean that im a noob?

actually yes i'm afraid ;)

why don't you just get one? they're not THAT expensive.

pclipse_teh_owner
2009-01-25, 16:02
actually yes i'm afraid ;)

why don't you just get one? they're not THAT expensive.

+1, if you don't have VOIP go play the good ol crappy nade spamming BF2.

PR is about teamwork and discipline and also fun.


I started playing at .5, and I was a noob. But a lot of people actually started at .5, so we were all noobs. I didn't play much of .6, but since .7 I've been playing quite a lot.

I say give it a week or a month, then all the noobs from BF2 will start hating PR, and they will all be gone, or they will start liking it, and improve.

Lord.Helmet
2009-01-25, 17:19
Thats exactly the same way i got teached in PR. A friendly guy taught me everything

Exactly the way it's should be!

+1, if you don't have VOIP go play the good ol crappy nade spamming BF2.

PR is about teamwork and discipline and also fun.


I started playing at .5, and I was a noob. But a lot of people actually started at .5, so we were all noobs. I didn't play much of .6, but since .7 I've been playing quite a lot.

I say give it a week or a month, then all the noobs from BF2 will start hating PR, and they will all be gone, or they will start liking it, and improve.

Well, go have a look on a "busy" pr night and count the people online. I don’t think it is worth to piss every newbie off and wish they'll be gone from the pr community soon. :confused:

Sure there will be newbies driving vehicule alone but maybe they would become great teamplayer instead of leaving the pr scene if they heard on their first round: “hey man, here in pr we need to be two to drive an apc because bla blab bla, ho you’re new! No worries and welcome!” instead of hearing “another fuc*ing moron is alone in the apc”. You know what adults (pr target players) do when they hear that?? They normally don’t try to argue, they leave. :duh:

I'm sorry but I think this community would benefit from the "skilled" players of pr who would give tips and clear "newbie oriented" instructions instead of being arrogant and incendiary.

By the way, stop saying to people “go read the guide”! Man, a newbie going on the pr website who clicks “guide” will be very lucky if he can access ONE page of this guide! Not everybody knows that the pdf guide is part of the pr installation.

There will always be pure assholes (think of hackers first) who only want to mess things up and that are hopeless cases for teamplay in pr, but it’s the same in all games. I would prefer 200 assholes for 10 000 good teamplayers than 20 assholes for 1000 good teamplayers.

:15_cheers

Emnyron
2009-01-26, 09:43
Nickbond592;914969']you used to be cool alex, :(

The dev`s used to be cool, then you reduced aircraft to a point between useless and toothless. ;)

Solid Knight
2009-01-26, 09:55
+1, if you don't have VOIP go play the good ol crappy nade spamming BF2.


-1 for being a jerk.

Cobhris
2009-01-26, 20:26
i don't use VoIP but does that mean that im a noob?

i don't have a mic, but because i don't have Voip i don't lead squads etc or do activities that you gotta act fast like tank/heli . only things like building etc. but i listen to other squad members.

i always look for tactical squad cause they are fun

Not necessarily. There are many reasons that someone may not be able to use a mic other than not wanting to communicate with people. For example, if you're playing at midnight and everyone else in the house is asleep, it's kind of difficult to use your mic without waking them up. That being said, mics should be used whenever possible, as they allow you instant communication with the rest of your squad (comes in handy when you have to warn them about the vodnik that's about to run you all over). If you can't use the mic, at least type out comms to your squad when needed.

CodeRedFox
2009-01-26, 20:57
Until we stop updating your ALL noobs!

I like how this harmless/trash talking word has turned into the main video game process and discussions.

MadTommy
2009-01-29, 20:13
CodeRedFox;917242']Until we stop updating your ALL noobs!

PMSL - dont you mean "we're" rather than "your", which i think should have been "you're".

Noobtastic comment... way to go :p

kf_reaper
2009-01-29, 23:43
had an good one today with 1337 uber noobs. lost the game because of them. i was bringing back the Apache to reload and right on take off some uber noob got on the 50.Cal and lit us up. really !@#@up my steering. so we have to turn around and try to fix it and the @#!$ing noob shot out the rotor. 20 min latter TKing 1337 uber noob get the Apache and does a front flip onto the ground.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/kf_clansmen/screen004.jpg

CodeRedFox
2009-01-29, 23:50
Nope MT...I'm always leet! Plus I'm playing the next version months before you get you hands on it.

MadTommy
2009-01-30, 00:02
So you're elite & you're testing the next version. I'm so impressed i have no come back.

Do you have a shrine i can grovel at?

CodeRedFox
2009-01-30, 00:07
Yes I do. This will be a mission for you to find it. I pray to ...uhh...myself that your journey will be safe.

...watch out for the dragons

kf_reaper
2009-01-30, 08:33
CodeRedFox;920715']Nope MT...I'm always leet! Plus I'm playing the next version months before you get you hands on it.

So you're elite & you're testing the next version. I'm so impressed i have no come back.

Do you have a shrine i can grovel at?

CodeRedFox;920726']Yes I do. This will be a mission for you to find it. I pray to ...uhh...myself that your journey will be safe.

...watch out for the dragons

1337 lolz