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marcoelnk
2009-01-10, 19:18
PROJECT REALITY
GERMAN FORCES
PROGRESS UPDATE



After a long time of silence , lots of effort has been made during the last two months to get this project rolling again.
Our current aim is to be implemented into PR 0.9 which is , if things keep going on this well very realisable.


Beside all the great modellers and texturers i'd like to especially thank :

Operation Peacekeeper
(Operation Peacekeeper: Operation Peacekeeper - A Battlefield 2 Modification (http://www.opkmod.com))
TrahnLee
Leusch
Hans Martin Slayer
Kaijleor
azn_chopstick_boi
the test team


So here it is, the long expected media update... ENJOY!




Weapons


G36 Variants

Model : Dylan
UV/Texture : Pride / Chuc (G36C)
Animations/sounds : Chuc


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0903/SirChuc/g36cfinalsshot3.jpg
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm115/Pride10101/G36/Render18.jpg




MG4

Model / UV / Texture : Kaijleor
Animations: Chuc

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/6484/mg4final7ee7.jpg




DM51 Handgrenade

Model: Dr.Nick
UV/ Texture : Pride / Kalo Shin

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c249/Tempos/Splitternade.jpg


Here is a little video i made about the wepons that are already ingame.
(crappy quality but its my first video ever ;) )
doesnt work...click the link below.
gertest

Link : gertest (http://www.wegame.com/watch/gertest/)

Panzerfaust 3

Model / UV / Skin : Kaijleor

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/152/finishedhl2.jpg




Vehicles



Leopard2A6


Source : OPK


http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen971.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen972.jpg



Wolf Geländewagen

Source : OPK


http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen880.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1015.jpg



Eurofighter

Source : OPK / PR
Texture edits : Martin


http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1044.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1051.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1058.jpg




Huey UH-1D

Source : OPK

Important Note: Im still negotiating with OPK about this. We do not have full permission to use this yet. Maybe we will have to reskin the PR one but for now this is just a placeholder

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1057.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1047.jpg



Maps

Playerskins by Martin

Codename Silent Eagle ( former Airborne )


Mapper : marcoelnk
Church static : Mescaldrav


Map description :

4x4 km , Vehicle based
Located somewhere in Russia , Factions : Ger vs. Rus

Status :

Lightmaps need to be done. Currently it only has terrain lightmaps on medium and this not even for overgrowth.




http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1027.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1030.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1035.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1037.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1039.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen976.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen971.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen972.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen973.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen974.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1016.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen979.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen981.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen987.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen990.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen991.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen993.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen998.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen995.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen994.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1051.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1052.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1053.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1057.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1001.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1003.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1004.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1007.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1010.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1050.jpg




Lashkar Valley

Mapper : Hans Martin Slayer

Map description :

2x2 km , mix of infantry and light armored vehicles
Afghanistan , Factions : Ger vs Taliban ; Gamemode : Most likely a mix of insurgency and AAS

Status:

Hans is reworking the textures and improving the overgrowth.


http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen933.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen934.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen936.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen937.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen938.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen941.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen943.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen951.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen952.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen954.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen959.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen961.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen963.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen965.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen966.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen967.jpg


Iron Thunder


Mapper : HughJass

Map description:

4x4 km , vehicle based
Located in Belarus , , Factions : Ger vs TBA

Status: quite WIP


http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1059.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1060.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1062.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1064.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1065.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1068.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1069.jpg



Arzan Kar Region (former Ambush)


Mapper : marcoelnk


Map description :

1x1 km , infantry based map
Located in Afghanistan ; Ger vs Taliban

Status:

I personally put alot of effort into to this map during the last 2 months ,
reworking large areas of the map.
Im currently working on implementing the static fields , so that the poppie
actually provides cover. Textures need some more work as well.
I think a comparison of the minimap before and afterwords shows this best :


Beforehttp://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/screen1071.jpg
Afterhttp://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/screen1070.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/screen832.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/screen821.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/screen820.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen879.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen880.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen884.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen896.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen899.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen906.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen911.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen913.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen914.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen917.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen920.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen925.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen932.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen930.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen928.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen927.jpg




WIP renders

Dingo II

Model : gumball/77sicario

Status : Currently being textured


http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee195/ricardosic/lado2.jpg
http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee195/ricardosic/lado-4.jpg



Puma

Model / UV : Kaijleor

Status : Soon gonna be textured


http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/198/puma1ms9.jpg
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1230/puma3ec7.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5601/puma4hg5.jpg



"Outtakes"


SN1P3R !!!

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1042.jpg

REEEEEEBOOOOOOUND!!!!

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1020.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1021.jpg
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1022.jpg




:-P:-P:-P

Lt Mic
2009-01-10, 19:31
Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
waiting to play it !!!

Iron Thunder


Mapper : HughJass

Map description:

4x4 km , vehicle based
Located in ??? , , Factions : Ger vs TBA

Status: quite WIP


it looks nice to Ger vs RUS or militia :)

Spush
2009-01-10, 19:32
Nice, good job peeps :P

azn_chopsticks_boi
2009-01-10, 19:33
Nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
waiting to play it !!!



it looks nice to Ger vs RUS or militia :)

Should be Russian if i am right :D

Christian92
2009-01-10, 19:34
THIS IS FREEAKING AMAZING!!!!! WANNA PLAY THIS ON PBLIC^^^^

Sgt.Sheep
2009-01-10, 19:36
I am struck by the sheer awesomeness of this post :D

Also lol@Fozzynator:
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1042.jpg

Kahn
2009-01-10, 19:47
Great job.
Keep up the good work.

Dizakui
2009-01-10, 19:52
Looks really good. Wasn't truely looking forward to this mod until I saw this.
May I just mention one thing though, the magazine on the G36C in the first image. It's wrong. The section going into the magwell is too short, looks like an Airsoft magazine.
Look: http://world.guns.ru/assault/hk_g36e.jpg
There are 3 box indents at the top of the magazine, not 2.
Apart from that it looks like its getting along really well. Just wish I diddn't have a thing against the Germans.

Hans Martin Slayer
2009-01-10, 19:57
great job, lads! you made some great progress there, congratulations!

pretty sweet to see my map with your stuff on it. 8-)

- love the outtakes.. :lol:

azn_chopsticks_boi
2009-01-10, 19:57
The G36C wont be used, since the spec op class is gone. The G36C was posted here since it was still a WIP.

edit: awesome map Hans :)

Priby
2009-01-10, 20:05
Woaha epic.
And i thought youre sleeping:P

Edit:
azn_chopsticks_boi;896105']The G36C wont be used, since the spec op class is gone. The G36C was posted here since it was still a WIP.


Nooooooooo!

Glimmerman
2009-01-10, 20:05
WOW big update fellas and a lot of maps also :)

Cant wait to play them :)

hawKKK
2009-01-10, 20:07
Fozzy, check this:
http://img1.abload.de/img/lolkopieh4z2.jpg




and for PR:GF
:shock::shock::shock:

Marco ich will ein Kind von dir! :D

marcoelnk
2009-01-10, 20:09
Marco ich will ein Kind von dir! :D

ne lass ma :D

AREM117
2009-01-10, 20:13
azn_chopsticks_boi;896105']The G36C wont be used, since the spec op class is gone. The G36C was posted here since it was still a WIP.

Does he meen in the german mod or in all of PR. I didnt see anything for sure on this. If its been taken out of PR then will there be separate spotter and demo kits?

azn_chopsticks_boi
2009-01-10, 20:16
Does he meen in the german mod or in all of PR. I didnt see anything for sure on this. If its been taken out of PR then will there be separate spotter and demo kits?

Its somewhere in this thread...its pretty epic and long :/
http://www.realitymod.com/forum/f196-pr-dev-journal/51047-gameplay-logistics.html

DonDOOM
2009-01-10, 20:24
Looks awesome!

HughJass
2009-01-10, 20:32
looks amazing, lashkar looks really good, its going to be the german korengal.

also, horray iron thunder made it in :D

hall0
2009-01-10, 20:32
Nice one.

And btw the G82 does have an awesome sound thats why we all stand next to the sniper :)

Conman51
2009-01-10, 20:39
what do the germans use for their marksman..its it that g3 thing?? or is taht just a place holder

hawKKK
2009-01-10, 20:39
Nice one.

And btw the G82 does have an awesome sound thats why we all stand next to the sniper :)

Wasn't it the G22 :confused:?

@Conman: Yes they do. It's still in service as its fully built in germany.

LtSoucy
2009-01-10, 20:39
looks great guys, amazing job.

RedAlertSF
2009-01-10, 20:44
Oh my god...I'm actually wordless.

Bundeswehr and Germany is just awesome, I could never believe that they would be even MORE, MUCH MORE awesome in PR. Thanks you so much.

So, are we getting this in 0.9? You know, there's no way I can wait..

hall0
2009-01-10, 20:45
@Conman51=US=
It will be the G3SG1 which is allready the marksman for mec

@hawKKK
No from the outtake screen (http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1042.jpg) its 100% a G82/Barrett M107.

azn_chopsticks_boi
2009-01-10, 20:46
Oh my god...I'm actually wordless.

Bundeswehr and Germany is just awesome, I could never believe that they would be even MORE, MUCH MORE awesome in PR. Thanks you so much.

So, are we getting this in 0.9? You know, there's no way I can wait..

That is what we are aiming for, but in the end, it depends on the dev's.

J.F.Leusch69
2009-01-10, 20:52
looking great, well do [R-CON]marcoelnk aka German Force Leader ;)

i also hope you get everything ready till 0.9.

...also i think this update was outstanding :D

Polka
2009-01-10, 20:52
I came.

gumball
2009-01-10, 21:41
nice work boys

rangedReCon
2009-01-10, 21:42
Amazing work! I never knew you guys had so many good looking maps already. :smile:

ReaperAce712
2009-01-10, 22:35
OMI GOD!!!!!!!!! :lol:

Chuc
2009-01-10, 22:37
Congratulations guys, with more time, it'll look even better :D
I'll move this to the Dev journal board, so you guys can get more exposure.

Raic
2009-01-10, 22:44
Wow, looks cool :D those guns look huge to me though.

Spec
2009-01-10, 22:46
Great job people. Looking forward to it. Too bad we won't have red dot + scope, though.

hiberNative
2009-01-10, 22:53
holy hell.
awesome maps! and i'm getting poe2 feelings ^^

gazzthompson
2009-01-10, 22:58
good rebound.

pclipse_teh_owner
2009-01-10, 23:04
MAN!! LOOKING GOOD!'
I want to see some Canadian Forces updates.

HunterMed
2009-01-10, 23:06
see germäns are komming!

hurra!

very good work!

=EB=Reaper
2009-01-10, 23:06
I just jizzed my self....

That has to be better then all the fractions in pr.. by a long way.

Good work guys!

=Romagnolo=
2009-01-10, 23:07
Nice work !

z0MbA
2009-01-10, 23:19
Pure Win

Saint
2009-01-10, 23:21
AWESOME! I WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LeChuckle
2009-01-10, 23:23
russians and germans - all we need :D silent eagle looks awesome

are you making wiesel btw?

scandhi
2009-01-10, 23:24
I AM Very IMPRESSED!! Amazing work. Looking forward!! :-o:-o

Rudd
2009-01-10, 23:24
Love it, hope all the community mods are gonna be this good!

badmojo420
2009-01-10, 23:28
Optics on the LMG? Will other factions be getting the same i wonder.

Nickbond592
2009-01-10, 23:32
well done thus far everyone involved, keep it up !

C.vanDijk
2009-01-10, 23:32
Optics on the LMG? Will other factions be getting the same i wonder.

From what I've seen the Germans like to put optics on everything so it doesn't really surprise me that the MG4 has them :P Bino's with Optics anyone? :lol:

master of the templars
2009-01-10, 23:32
Lashkar Valley is one of the best looking map i have seen, but well done to the whole team.

Scot
2009-01-10, 23:40
4pXfHLUlZf4

:D

Lovin' it

HunterMed
2009-01-10, 23:50
LOL scot... this video is funny

ERASERLASER
2009-01-10, 23:51
looks really good, good effort!

crazy11
2009-01-10, 23:51
good job!

Jigsaw
2009-01-10, 23:53
Looks beautiful, cant wait :D

Rangu
2009-01-11, 00:07
Great work guys! Looking forward to its done! :D

charliegrs
2009-01-11, 00:09
azn_chopsticks_boi;896105']The G36C wont be used, since the spec op class is gone. The G36C was posted here since it was still a WIP.

edit: awesome map Hans :)

does that apply to all factions?

Rezza
2009-01-11, 00:11
Awesome? really awaiting!

McBumLuv
2009-01-11, 00:13
Good job, can't wait to play these maps :)

azn_chopsticks_boi
2009-01-11, 00:18
does that apply to all factions?
it's mention in the [Gameplay] Logistics....dont remember exactly

Cptkanito
2009-01-11, 00:22
Love it, can't w8 xD

Claymore
2009-01-11, 00:22
That's great news! German weaponry is one of the best, can't wait to play this :)

ghOst819
2009-01-11, 00:53
Nice job guys, lovin the g36 sound

FLOZi
2009-01-11, 00:55
Looks great. Are those houses OPK statics, too? They look familiar.

Anyway, OPK level of quality for germans in PR = unbelieveable win

Masaq
2009-01-11, 00:56
Good lord, one hell of an update! Nice work you guys, I look forward to seeing you in-game :)

torenico
2009-01-11, 01:02
Awesome!

I lav u bundeswehr!

[T]waylay00
2009-01-11, 01:03
SWEET!

It would be awesome if we could Serbian forces in PR too. Actually, I would love playing OPK's setting/scenario with PR rules/gameplay.

$pyker
2009-01-11, 01:06
g36 sounds awesome and please make your own mg4 sound

Element66
2009-01-11, 01:20
thats some real impressive work

nice one

chuckMFd
2009-01-11, 01:34
scoped machineguns = pwng!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Zoddom
2009-01-11, 01:35
NICE JOB GUYS!!!!!!
i like the OPK houses, they look awesome^^
and nice models dudes :)

ReaperAce712
2009-01-11, 01:38
how come there hueys get door guns? :wink:

Rhino
2009-01-11, 01:38
i like the OPK houses, they look awesome^^

they are PRs...

STORM-Mama
2009-01-11, 01:39
Wow, ich liebe der Bundeswehr! At last an army that can match the badassness of the upcoming Russian Forces. Russia vs. Germany maps will be my favourites.

Kontrollturm
2009-01-11, 01:41
Very good work, but i have to say that the Scope of the MG4/G36 isnt correct. If you look threw it, you dont see the parts of the gun, cause it has a 3,5x scope. Maybe you correct it.
Will the LMG be a selectable kit? or just for testing?
Still missing the Reddot ;)
But very good work!

PS: maybe the Combat Engi can get the G36C, or tank drivers... who knew

azn_chopsticks_boi
2009-01-11, 01:45
Very good work, but i have to say that the Scope of the MG4/G36 isnt correct. If you look threw it, you dont see the parts of the gun, cause it has a 3,5x scope. Maybe you correct it.
Will the LMG be a selectable kit? or just for testing?
Still missing the Reddot ;)
But very good work!

PS: maybe the Combat Engi can get the G36C, or tank drivers... who knew

Still a WIP :) just for testing for the selectable kit.

Tank drivers will get MP7.

Airsoft
2009-01-11, 01:46
can we get this van from OPK mod?

http://screenshot.xfire.com/screenshot/large/7748052a15be8b07bd6704da1415ca46fcc7609c.jpg

vilhelm123
2009-01-11, 01:48
Epic win, just full of epic win.

Much kudos team can't wait to get my grubby hands on this stuff!

Vege
2009-01-11, 01:50
I just wanna see Ger vs US where US is defending and Ger is attacking that territory. Would be cool wouldnt it.

This is just something iw not seen :)
As realistic as ger fighting rus.

Still, looks nice nice

charliegrs
2009-01-11, 02:14
Wow, looks cool :D those guns look huge to me though.

thats the same thing i was thinking. does anyone with any experience with a g36 know if those guns are at the correct scale in PR?

Priby
2009-01-11, 02:26
Just asking, but what happened to the g36´s red dot + scope?

Sabre_tooth_tigger
2009-01-11, 02:27
Will Mg3 be vehicle mounted only

CodeRedFox
2009-01-11, 02:28
Congrats guys, good job!

00SoldierofFortune00
2009-01-11, 02:36
BEAST!

4pXfHLUlZf4

00SoldierofFortune00
2009-01-11, 02:42
O yea, like the fact that you guys sorta remade Steel Thunder too. I see what you did there.

Renegade Warrior
2009-01-11, 03:05
Very nice work! Look forward to seeing it in 0.9!

BetterDeadThanRed
2009-01-11, 03:09
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/152/finishedhl2.jpg

Is that a bunkerfaust I see?

azn_chopsticks_boi
2009-01-11, 03:56
Stil a WIP guys :)

the mg3 will be mounted on vehicles, used as the Deployed MG, etc.

No, its the carrying mode i think, and once fired, the spike should pop out...thats wat i gathered from the info we have...correct me if i am wrong :P

edit: the IDF are not in v.85

cocacola
2009-01-11, 04:06
nice but you might wana get a diff sound for the lmg sound like saw idk maybe it sounds like that not german also im gona have fun killing those germans with my ak

Comander
2009-01-11, 04:24
And btw the G82 does have an awesome sound thats why we all stand next to the sniper :)

... and everyone screamed : Shoot Comander, shoot ... :mrgreen:

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk147/mar_copone/Bundeswehr%20Update/screen1042.jpg

Thanks to Marco for the awesome first experience ... it was a pleasure!

Very good work by all involved!

YouTube - Mundstuhl - Germans (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGPk-ZzXR7o)

azn_chopsticks_boi
2009-01-11, 04:25
nice but you might wana get a diff sound for the lmg sound like saw idk maybe it sounds like that not german also im gona have fun killing those germans with my ak
Ya, its a placeholder for right now

Rudd
2009-01-11, 04:29
Just asking, but what happened to the g36´s red dot + scope?

that's what I was wondering

also, you guys are really going foward with teh paratrooper thing? (would love to see how it turns out)

looks like a few things the DEVs can watch and see how they turn out

Spec
2009-01-11, 05:23
Once again (Now that it's in the dev journal), awesome job. Can't wait.

ReaperMAC
2009-01-11, 05:57
It's gonna be more kick ass than POE2 that's for sure :thumbsup:

NYgurkha
2009-01-11, 06:12
:D Iron thunder = Kursk Round II!!!

MarineSeaknight
2009-01-11, 06:21
It's gonna be more kick ass than POE2 that's for sure :thumbsup:

It's highspeedlowdrag status.

flickflackingfligger
2009-01-11, 06:50
omg omg omg omg ! ! ! ! ! CANT WAIT for zee germans:mrgreen:

the weopons look and sound amazing, great job you all should be proud:mrgreen:

black-wolf
2009-01-11, 08:05
Simply too good to be true.

WilsonPL
2009-01-11, 08:59
Evrything looks very good! :-)

YouTube - Mundstuhl - Germans (http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=cGPk-ZzXR7o) => win sound plz :wink:

shifty66
2009-01-11, 09:07
Looks faaarking amazing guys.

My dream is to have all my Blood lines represented in PR. Australian, German and Scottish.

Dreams are coming true....oooh how i love PR.


Except for the Scottish....Scot guards anyone? :lol:

D-JHappyMeal
2009-01-11, 09:16
omgholyshitliekomgwtfbbqsuprisedifyoucanreadthis

cyberzomby
2009-01-11, 09:22
Some quality work right there! Good job guys!

Outlawz7
2009-01-11, 09:33
This is the most awesome thread ever, I've never seen so much stuff being showcased at the same time and the huge progress made :D

MaxBooZe
2009-01-11, 09:37
Glimmerman;896118']WOW big update fellas and a lot of maps also :)

Cant wait to play them :)

Heh, Im busy on a map based on Deh Rawod, You'll see it when its worth it ;)


Nice job guys!

Deadfast
2009-01-11, 09:50
The only think I have to point out is the absence of a round in the G36 mag.

Looks quite noticeable while reloading :(



On top of that...awesome!

Hell, I didn't even know you guys had so many maps. So many awesome looking maps :D

Saint
2009-01-11, 09:57
GERMANS FTW!
Y4MqRKqV23Q

p.s. erase the first post plz ;)

cyberzomby
2009-01-11, 10:37
One thing I found amusing was: Hans is still working on this.

Perfect! The typical german "guy" workin on the german forces mod :)

Fenriswolf-GER-
2009-01-11, 11:13
very nice good job guys!!!

NyteMyre
2009-01-11, 11:15
wow, when I saw the topic title...The first thing I thought about was the Wehrmacht. And I thought, that must be a joke.

Haha...maps looks awesome btw

Brummy
2009-01-11, 11:18
Very nice work :D

HughJass
2009-01-11, 11:22
Who made that B.A. russia vs germany map :P?

Japub
2009-01-11, 11:36
Looks really nice. Didn't know you were making some awesome maps as well! But doesn't the guns look very big in the hands of a soldier?

[NPK]ShieldBreaker
2009-01-11, 12:09
This is so freaking epic.

cocobutter333
2009-01-11, 12:17
The definition of epicness is now simply "PR"

supahpingi
2009-01-11, 12:20
awesome,nice job :D

ERASERLASER
2009-01-11, 12:24
european maps FTW I hope germany can bring more forrest maps:razz:

LeChuckle
2009-01-11, 12:25
wonder how big the 0.9 client files will be.. not that size is a factor for me though

LeChuckle
2009-01-11, 12:27
european maps FTW I hope germany can bring more forrest maps:razz:

just look at codename silent eagle. those are the kind of maps we've been lacking. green, thick and lush european forests :mrgreen:

Napoleon_TR
2009-01-11, 13:08
really nice :)

BloodyDeed
2009-01-11, 13:08
Uhh, that looks so nice.
Cant wait to beat the russians :-)
Great work, especially the maps are gorgeous.

Le_Damner
2009-01-11, 13:11
Very nice work guyz !
Tons of hours results in something great ... hope to play this very soon !

ExisSellos
2009-01-11, 13:22
THIS IS OWNAGE

MAINERROR
2009-01-11, 13:27
Very nice. Looking forward to play this faction.

Japub
2009-01-11, 13:51
The russia vs germany map reminds me a bit of BF1942, with the forest and cities. Nice. :)

Cpl.Small
2009-01-11, 13:52
i haven't exactly been waiting for the german forces to b released, but this looks sooo good, can't wait to play those maps and those weapons look awesome. well done guys, keep it up!

Panzerfire
2009-01-11, 14:09
Ze germans are coming!
Ze germans are goming!

WOOT!
Awesome stuff! :D Nice faction, nice gear and nice maps. This will rock hard.

The MG4 and the Panzerfaust 3 are... well... just beautiful! :mrgreen:

Keep up guys! I'm looking forward to see the Bundeswehr faction in PR. :thumbsup:

=IX=CrisMoreno666
2009-01-11, 14:12
Looking forward to it!!! Good work!

Skodz
2009-01-11, 14:24
Is the Canadian Leopard gonna be like this one ?

Maxfragg
2009-01-11, 14:57
yes, canadians will use the same Leo2, polands and norway will use a Leo2A4/A5 and not this A6 model (completely new turnet)

DrugKoala
2009-01-11, 15:17
DO WANT!

From the beginning of my life, I've been learned to respect whatever Germans touch.

Respect, :)

arakis
2009-01-11, 15:22
Der absolute Hammer!
Freu mich schon :)

Fox_Naturalist
2009-01-11, 16:43
great job! CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jbgeezer
2009-01-11, 16:51
MAn, this was beyond expectations=)

TeRR0R
2009-01-11, 16:52
awesome!

Outlawz7
2009-01-11, 18:41
more factions ftw.
sorry for oftop...would there be jews in 0.85?

What?

hall0
2009-01-11, 18:48
Think he means IDF.

McBumLuv
2009-01-11, 18:48
Double... what? I hope it's not a racist slur against the IDF :p, no matter how much you politically disagree with them, they're still people.

Rick Bazooka
2009-01-11, 18:49
PANZERFAUST 3 <3 ^^

Zoddom
2009-01-11, 19:50
erm... are our forces ready for 0.85? :oops:

azn_chopsticks_boi
2009-01-11, 20:00
erm... are our forces ready for 0.85? :oops:

Sorry, but you won't see ze germans in 0.85

Zoddom
2009-01-11, 20:07
azn_chopsticks_boi;897676']Sorry, but you won't see ze germans in 0.85

*cry* :hissyfit:
But looking forward to russian army :)

slayer
2009-01-11, 20:11
Ive always liked OPK, still sad you had to "steal" the models and other. Take the G3 skin and Im satisfide.

Zoddom
2009-01-11, 20:18
they didnt steal it.
both mods are managed or published by the black sand studios, so its normal that you share your ideas and works

azn_chopsticks_boi
2009-01-11, 20:20
Ive always liked OPK, still sad you had to "steal" the models and other. Take the G3 skin and Im satisfide.

We were allowed to use their models, so how are we "stealing", they get all the credits and are allow to use any models we make if they want to. I personally dont know all the details, since i dont talk to them, but we are allowed to use their leo, wolf and wiesel tow models in our agreement. Marco is talking to them about the UH-1D, since it even said Marco is currently talking to them.

Biggaayal
2009-01-11, 20:28
It's cooperation lol. It's great to see all the splintered mods come together and combine forces. After all, it is why we play mods; many efforts combined always surpass the profit-based and time constricted efforts of a company developement team.

It would be foolish of modders not to share resources. It is the unique advantage of modding.

Spec
2009-01-11, 20:50
If you refer to the Bundeswehr; no. 0.9 is the target.

Spec
2009-01-11, 20:51
Gawd am I slow. Please delete/ignore/eat this post and the one of me above

evya
2009-01-11, 21:35
great work there!
also do someone else so engi and support as an spawn kit? do that mean devs come back from what they said with engi as limited kit and specops out?:?: or its just didnt fixed yet and engi will still be limited? and what about support spawnable? lots of question from only two pics...
also few more question rose, but saw them allrdy in topic[didnt go all pages thourgh, dont be harsh if allrdy posted...:|]

Spec
2009-01-11, 21:38
I guess it's simply WIP. I doubt both kits will be spawnable. Or either.

M_Striker
2009-01-11, 21:40
Good work! I have a question though. Am I just seeing things or is that a suppressor on the G36(?) in the first picture.

Drude
2009-01-11, 21:42
omg! great job.

Spec
2009-01-11, 22:06
Good work! I have a question though. Am I just seeing things or is that a suppressor on the G36(?) in the first picture.

There is a suppressor on the G36C, yes. It won't be used though with the special forces class being removed (unless someone makes a special forces based map or something, but I wouldnt think that'd work out too well)

Blakeman
2009-01-11, 23:28
Excellent work gents, I love the European buildings and the town they are running through. I am glad in the future we will see more than deserts and jungles.

Große Arbeit!

UK_Force
2009-01-12, 00:03
Ive always liked OPK, still sad you had to "steal" the models and other. Take the G3 skin and Im satisfide.




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WhiteTiger
2009-01-12, 02:51
Come on guys, if your going to be realistic, dont give Germany the M249. That is a strict United States Weapon. Britain already has it. But at least they are our allies. Germany is not an ally is it? If your going to give Germany the G36, give them the MG36 for support. Not the M249.

cocacola
2009-01-12, 02:54
haha the russians beat the germans to the realise once again the germans loose to the russians who's the infirior race now bitch


EDIT : USER Warned for posting a racist comment

Panzerfire
2009-01-12, 02:56
Come on guys, if your going to be realistic, dont give Germany the M249. That is a strict United States Weapon. Britain already has it. But at least they are our allies. Germany is not an ally is it? If your going to give Germany the G36, give them the MG36 for support. Not the M249.

Look again and carefully this time. The Bundeswehr faction is using the MG4 as it does IRL.

And the MG-36 option has ben ruled out a while ago since the Bundeswehr is NOT using the MG-36. At best the KSK use the 100 mag on standar G-36s.

Panzerfire
2009-01-12, 02:59
haha the russians beat the germans to the realise once again the germans loose to the russians who's the infirior race now bitch

WTF?!
Seriously man... that's just a dumb comment. :x

Pariel
2009-01-12, 03:12
WTF?!
Seriously man... that's just a dumb comment. :x

I laughed.

This thread is Wagner approved. :m1helmet:

cocacola
2009-01-12, 03:15
WTF?!
Seriously man... that's just a dumb comment. :x

still upset from WWII?

Panzerfire
2009-01-12, 03:20
still upset from WWII?

No I'm upset at this:
haha the russians beat the germans to the realise once again the germans loose to the russians who's the infirior race now bitch

Germans are not a race but talking about racial superiority makes you looks "Not-smart".

Russians are not superior to germans as well as germans are not superior to russians. No nationality is better than other because of events that happened more than 60 years ago.
Also.... refering to us germans as "b*tch" won't get you friends over here. I'm sure of that. :?

Colonelcool125
2009-01-12, 03:21
still upset from WWII?

First off, another useless post.

Second, if you really are Russian, please translate.

(Spelled phonetically)

Kak vas zavoot.

azn_chopsticks_boi
2009-01-12, 03:22
There is no need to post that kinda stuff here. Quit that pointless spam and any racial comments.

Colonelcool125
2009-01-12, 03:27
I'd like to apologize for my post. It's not useful in this thread and I'm sorry.

slayer
2009-01-12, 04:46
azn_chopsticks_boi;897720']We were allowed to use their models, so how are we "stealing", they get all the credits and are allow to use any models we make if they want to. I personally dont know all the details, since i dont talk to them, but we are allowed to use their leo, wolf and wiesel tow models in our agreement. Marco is talking to them about the UH-1D, since it even said Marco is currently talking to them.
I know, Im a modeler myself and our community borrows your statics as well.

Bragonfly
2009-01-12, 05:49
YES!!! Finally the german army, been hoping for this news flash for months!

OkitaMakoto
2009-01-12, 06:14
Looking good. Im loving the MG4 :)

Keep it up! Get this done and out! :)


And bragonfly your sig is like hella way too long, its 700px × 152px
gotta be knocked down to 550 by 200.

Thanks mate

marcoelnk
2009-01-12, 12:34
Thanks for the positive feedback guys.
But please do us the favour to actually read though my post before you ask questions and stat things like "haha germans dont use the SAW" ...

marco :)

Rambo Hunter
2009-01-12, 22:07
I don't think I posted here yet:
Wonderful work! I'm really looking forward to using that G36/AG36 and the MG4 (Which is, by the way, the nicest looking LMG ever made :P )...
Once again, good work!

Zekeadalic
2009-01-13, 13:58
Hammer! Freu mich schon drauf! Hab mir aber überlegt, dass die deutschen wohl kaum gegen Russland kämpfen können. Vielleicht sollte man sich bei der BW eher die Militia, Taliban oder Insurgents als Gegner raussuchen. Je nach Karten-Geographie.

Great! Looking forward to this! Thought about the history and current happenings about the Bundeswehr. You perhaps shouldn't let the BW fight against Russia. Would be more realistic to choose Militia, Taliban or Insurgents to fight against the BW. Chosen by the geography of the map.

Priby
2009-01-13, 14:19
...You perhaps shouldn't let the BW fight against Russia. Would be more realistic to choose Militia, Taliban or Insurgents to fight against the BW.

We have USA/GB vs. China.

Zekeadalic
2009-01-13, 14:31
We have USA/GB vs. China.

Thats a point ;)

Zoddom
2009-01-13, 16:24
Thats a point ;)

wieso auch nicht? PR handelt teilweise doch auch von fiktiven Konflikten, oder?

why not? PR is also about fictivt conflicts, isnt it?

Jaitara_X
2009-01-13, 16:55
Oh dear goodness.... =O my dreams of wielding the beautiful G36E are about to be realized...!!!

kannietwo
2009-01-13, 17:44
Isnt the top of the HKV a little bit to flat ? I think it could be smoother (above the reddot)


http://www.rk-neckarzimmern.de/Wissenswertes/Bilder/G36/HKV_G36.jpg

Spec
2009-01-13, 19:27
Oh dear goodness.... =O my dreams of wielding the beautiful G36E are about to be realized...!!!

G36. Not G36E. :p

icemannor
2009-01-13, 19:29
Come on guys, if your going to be realistic, dont give Germany the M249. That is a strict United States Weapon. Britain already has it. But at least they are our allies. Germany is not an ally is it? If your going to give Germany the G36, give them the MG36 for support. Not the M249.

LoooooooooooooooL !

Spec
2009-01-13, 19:36
LoooooooooooooooL !

yes, indeed, lol.

The M249 is a belgian weapon, by the way.

-=TB=- Sturmjaeger
2009-01-13, 19:43
Oh dear goodness.... =O my dreams of wielding the beautiful G36E are about to be realized...!!!

G36A1 is the correct designation. The G36E is the export version without the Red Dot.

LeChuckle
2009-01-13, 19:49
am i the only one who doesnt like the german flag on the leo?

-=TB=- Sturmjaeger
2009-01-13, 19:49
Come on guys, if your going to be realistic, dont give Germany the M249. That is a strict United States Weapon. Britain already has it. But at least they are our allies. Germany is not an ally is it? If your going to give Germany the G36, give them the MG36 for support. Not the M249.

Lol

I love American people! We are a member of the NATO and yes we are your allies since 1955!:wink:

Priby
2009-01-13, 20:13
am i the only one who doesnt like the german flag on the leo?

No youre not, i think they wouldnt use them in battle situations.

black-wolf
2009-01-13, 20:30
Its a part of the model they've got from opk, IRCC.

black-wolf
2009-01-13, 20:31
*edit*:

I meant IIRC, lol.

Fox_Naturalist
2009-01-13, 21:05
the M249 is not a Belgium weapon; it was created in the United States by the mother of a US Army soldier lol!

Fox_Naturalist
2009-01-13, 21:06
Oh and Germany is an ally of the United States!

STORM-Mama
2009-01-13, 21:10
the M249 is not a Belgium weapon; it was created in the United States by the mother of a US Army soldier lol!
Not sure if you were 100% serious right there, but the M249 is based on the Belgian FN Minimi. :wink.

hall0
2009-01-13, 21:15
No youre not, i think they wouldnt use them in battle situations.

Maybe but its fact the flag is used on tanks see this screen (http://soldatenglueck.de/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/bw-leoprad2kfor-300x200.jpg) took in kosovo (its a small flag but i think you can recognize it) But i agree they wouldnt use a flag like this one (http://www.checkpoint-online.ch/CheckPoint/Images/N-KFOR-Kosovo-1.jpg):wink:

And as black-wolf already said its part of the OPK model.

CaptWildstar
2009-01-13, 21:21
isn't that the MG4 you y'all talking about, and i don't think its the M249. It looks similar but is a different gun I'm pretty sure

Spec
2009-01-13, 22:22
We were talking about the M249, but that is of course not the MG4 the german forces will use.

agentscar
2009-01-13, 22:33
WOW,This is looking amazing,watch out OPK,lol. ;)

Though,I'm not too fond of airborne being against Ruskies..Maybe Militia..But anyways,I love everything,just all around awesome work,really good work on the weapons,and Puma IFV.Also,make sure that MG4 looses the M249 sounds. ;) :)

SocketMan
2009-01-13, 22:59
ze Germans are coming with a Blitzkrieg -we're all fuked ;)
good job

HughJass
2009-01-13, 23:13
ze Germans are coming with a Blitzkrieg -we're all fuked ;)
good job

the russians will bring out their secret weapon thats been testing since ww2:
kittens

scandhi
2009-01-13, 23:31
Shock Army's?

Cobhris
2009-01-13, 23:38
Germany is not an ally is it?

Last I checked they were members of NATO, a military alliance that includes America. Doesn't mean they have to or should use the same weapons.

Ricardo-SC
2009-01-13, 23:46
Very nice job, i liked!!!:D

azn_chopsticks_boi
2009-01-14, 01:16
;)
Also,make sure that MG4 looses the M249 sounds. ;) :)

WIP keep that in mind

;)

Sabre-Oz
2009-01-14, 01:35
Looking great guys, very nice work, love German kit.

Some people need to step back and do some research before posting, there's some really dull comments in here.

Spaz
2009-01-14, 01:43
yes, indeed, lol.

The M249 is a belgian weapon, by the way.

Its Belgian but they make it in US, afaik.

Sabre-Oz
2009-01-14, 01:53
Yes original design the Minimi was designed and made in Belgium by FN, the US used Minimi's for a short period until they made some modifications and called it the M249 SAW which is manufactured in the US by FNHUSA

Sabre-Oz
2009-01-14, 01:55
Still the same weapon when you get into the specifics and subtract some additions, but the Germans don't even use it, so this ain't the place.

agentscar
2009-01-14, 03:23
Ok,I new the MG4 sounds were just temp. hehe.

Last I checked they were members of NATO, a military alliance that includes America. Doesn't mean they have to or should use the same weapons.

To answer this..no..NATO countries do not use the same weapons,or have to use the same weapons,etc..US has M4's/M16's Germans have G36's,UK has L85A2's ,so that answers that..They all kick arse together though,we all know that! :)

Maxfragg
2009-01-14, 05:50
DID i miss something or are you really complaining about the placeholder icons in the spawnlist, that show a G36E and a M249 ?

Spaz
2009-01-14, 08:21
DID i miss something or are you really complaining about the placeholder icons in the spawnlist, that show a G36E and a M249 ?

I don't think anyone complained about that, since it's WIP everyone should know that it will be changed ;)

And about the sound, I think the MG4 sounds a lot like the SAW IRL so the sound isn't that bad.

Doc_Frank
2009-01-14, 09:29
Great looking faction, well done for everyone contributing!

How many maps are you planning to put in the next version? The amount you came up with seems a lot. Is there going to be some filtering or they all get tested publicly?

StUfz
2009-01-14, 12:44
I will be happy if you can implement OPK into PR.

It's a great idea and I think that it will be a great triumph for you, because the gamers will love this ;-)

I hope that Germany will never fight again versus Russia indeed :-D

Spec
2009-01-14, 13:17
Its Belgian but they make it in US, afaik.

Yes original design the Minimi was designed and made in Belgium by FN, the US used Minimi's for a short period until they made some modifications and called it the M249 SAW which is manufactured in the US by FNHUSA

Sure the newest versions are made in the US, but the weapon was still designed in belgium. I didn't want to go into too much detail. I'd also call a G3 a "german weapon" and an AK47 a "russian weapon" even if they can be found and are probably produced anywhere.

The point was just to counter the "The M249 is an american weapon and can't be used by anyone else!111" post, as the weapon's origins are belgian.

So let me rephrase my post:

"The M249's origins are belgian, by the way"

That doesn't change the point though :p

(But thanks for the history lesson, ppl^^)

marcoelnk
2009-01-14, 16:32
Great looking faction, well done for everyone contributing!

How many maps are you planning to put in the next version? The amount you came up with seems a lot. Is there going to be some filtering or they all get tested publicly?

probably 3 (silent eagle, lashkar, and arzan kar)
...maybe 4 if we "get" feyzabad...

i think new maps are always good :)



and yeah guys, its all WIP so SAW icon + sound is just a placeholder.

HughJass
2009-01-14, 17:50
I will be happy if you can implement OPK into PR.

It's a great idea and I think that it will be a great triumph for you, because the gamers will love this ;-)

I hope that Germany will never fight again versus Russia indeed :-D

you mean in real life?

whats wrong with fighting them in game.

Spec
2009-01-14, 17:54
Well, he said again. So he probably means real life.

TommY
2009-01-14, 17:54
If Russia are going to be a NATO force then why are they fighting the Germans who i presume are also NATO?

Or do you mean militia?

Spec
2009-01-14, 17:57
Russia in PR will fight NATO countries indeed for some reason. Since no story exists, we can only guess. But they do.

HughJass
2009-01-14, 17:57
If Russia are going to be a NATO force then why are they fighting the Germans who i presume are also NATO?

Or do you mean militia?

You know russia pretty much hates NATO and the EU right?

Tannhauser
2009-01-14, 18:15
In PR Russia will fight anyone, doesn't matter if they're NATO, EU or other like PLA, etc..

HughJass
2009-01-14, 18:59
In PR Russia will fight anyone, doesn't matter if they're NATO, EU or other like PLA, etc..

I believe geze said they will not fight mec.

Rudd
2009-01-14, 19:02
whyz?!^

-=TB=- Sturmjaeger
2009-01-14, 19:03
If Russia are going to be a NATO force then why are they fighting the Germans who i presume are also NATO?

Or do you mean militia?

I dont think that Russia will join the NATO in real life. Ok if they would do it the NATO would be very mighty. But why they should?

TommY
2009-01-14, 19:20
I dont think that Russia will join the NATO in real life. Ok if they would do it the NATO would be very mighty. But why they should?

I read that Russia will be a NATO force in PR is what i mean, not in real life. Thats why i asked why they would be fighting another NATO force, perhaps its me with the wrong information but i read somewhere they are a NATO force.

Spec
2009-01-14, 19:27
You read they were in team 2 i guess, in the same team as e.g. the US, UK etc. However, on some maps they can also switch to team 1, the team of MEC and PLA. Earlier people thought that a faction could only be in EITHER team 2 or 1, but it seems it can be in both, which means they can fight whoever the mapper wants (for now chechen rebels aka militia only. Later possibly Bundeswehr, PLA and others).

TommY
2009-01-14, 19:37
Alright thanks for clearing that up.

Leo Vs. T90, can't wait.

STORM-Mama
2009-01-14, 21:47
Alright thanks for clearing that up.

Leo Vs. T90, can't wait.

Leo is here to show us that he can do better than grampa Tiger, while T90 is eager to live up to the legacy of his T34 ancestors :wink:

Kursk - round 2!

crudge
2009-01-14, 23:27
Damn nice! I'm loving the G3 nade tube!

flickflackingfligger
2009-01-14, 23:31
just trowing this out there, but would it be possible to mix up the factions? Like a 21st century revolution USA vs UK, USA vs GER, UK vs GER, etc...
that could be pretty sweet:mrgreen:

K3V1N=US=
2009-01-15, 13:19
Uhm is anyone else thinnking too that the leopard looks a little weird?? or is it just the pics?? from what it looks like on the pics it looks more like a Bradley than a MBT its too short both in length and width..

Sorta like this :P

http://image.trucktrend.com/f/auto-shows/sema-scion-xb-monster-truck/1019576+w480+cr1+re0+ar1/2007-scion-xb-by-david-choe.jpg

Spec
2009-01-15, 13:56
Thats just the angle of view. The OPK Leo2 model doesnt look wrong.

Sgt1 v/d Sluis
2009-01-15, 15:00
The picture with rebound, is that a .50 sniper?

Spec
2009-01-15, 15:03
Yea, probably as placeholder though.

Titan
2009-01-15, 15:27
mh.. yea looks corious on some pics... and ok on others ...

I`m most looking forward to play on the Taliban maps. GER vs. RUS is such a stereotyp ;) .. but its the mappers choice.

I just wonder what is about the Fuchs or the Boxer? No WIP?

Doozer0815
2009-01-15, 16:44
Well done guys - but as far as i remember u dont see the handle if u are looking through the sight. Please fix it.

Doozer0815
2009-01-15, 17:01
btw: i mean sight on g36 and mg4. where is no edit button:?: also are u able to get the red dot in? maybe press the right mouse button one time red dot and second time scope. woud be fine 4 close combat.

Spec
2009-01-15, 17:22
Has been tried, didn't work. (Red Dot + Scope, that is)

marcoelnk
2009-01-15, 17:29
Has not been tried. We have more important things to do right now :)
Thing is that both one one class is imbalanced and furthermore annoying in certain circumstances.
we will probably go with reddot for the classes that have reddot now in main PR and 3x scope for the others.

Spec
2009-01-15, 17:37
Hmm... Got that wrong then.


Good you make it depending on class, however.

Zoddom
2009-01-15, 17:46
hmm :/ i like youre idea spec, but i think the g36 would be too "strong" then.

Anteater
2009-01-15, 17:59
marcoelnk;902619']
Thing is that both one one class is imbalanced and furthermore annoying in certain circumstances.

I think it would be much more annoying to know that your weapon has a red dot and a ZF but you can only use one of them. I'd strongly suggest that you find another way for balancing instead of crippling the main rifle of the soldiers. When you cannot make full use of the G36 then why call the faction Bundeswehr?

Still, I know that balancing is a difficult thing to achieve but it would be better to wait with such fundamental decisions until you can do proper playtesting and try different approaches.

DeadSmile187
2009-01-15, 18:26
Ohhh yeah cant wait to play them :D

marcoelnk
2009-01-15, 18:32
When you cannot make full use of the G36 then why call the faction Bundeswehr?



This is the most retarded comment in this thread.... honestly.

Spec
2009-01-15, 18:36
Afaik, OPK and POE don't have two sights for the G36 either. Why would this mod here not be a Bundeswehr-Mod for not having both at the same time when the two most important mods including the Bundeswehr don't have that either?

black-wolf
2009-01-15, 18:47
I think it would be much more annoying to know that your weapon has a red dot and a ZF but you can only use one of them. I'd strongly suggest that you find another way for balancing instead of crippling the main rifle of the soldiers. When you cannot make full use of the G36 then why call the faction Bundeswehr?

Still, I know that balancing is a difficult thing to achieve but it would be better to wait with such fundamental decisions until you can do proper playtesting and try different approaches.

You really think they haven't thought this out?

Anteater
2009-01-15, 20:31
marcoelnk;902683']This is the most retarded comment in this thread.... honestly.

If that's the way you want to see it, then that's it.

Cobhris
2009-01-15, 21:15
Ok,I new the MG4 sounds were just temp. hehe.



To answer this..no..NATO countries do not use the same weapons,or have to use the same weapons,etc..US has M4's/M16's Germans have G36's,UK has L85A2's ,so that answers that..They all kick arse together though,we all know that! :)

That wasn't a question.

sir_kryptonite
2009-01-15, 21:45
I love it! I cant wait to drive those leopards!

azn_chopsticks_boi
2009-01-15, 22:30
I think it would be much more annoying to know that your weapon has a red dot and a ZF but you can only use one of them. I'd strongly suggest that you find another way for balancing instead of crippling the main rifle of the soldiers. When you cannot make full use of the G36 then why call the faction Bundeswehr?

Still, I know that balancing is a difficult thing to achieve but it would be better to wait with such fundamental decisions until you can do proper playtesting and try different approaches.
The problem is, if there were the red dot and scope, then there would be 2 G36s, like the MGs, that would cause a problem in the number of items u can have which is 9. Perhaps we might find a way to work this out, then we will.

jeeao
2009-01-15, 22:39
Would it not be possible to simulate a sniper's double zoom and have one zoom be scope, and one zoom be red dot?

Drop_Deadx
2009-01-15, 22:48
I had to check my pants to make sure I didn't shit myself :O

Excuse my language, It just looks that awesome.

DrugKoala
2009-01-15, 22:51
Please, no double sights... I'm already pissed to hell due to slow bring-up-the-sights action... I don't need that doubled.

WilsonPL
2009-01-16, 00:34
It would be good. One right click - reddot, second click zoom. But without delay.

Chuc
2009-01-16, 00:36
Not possible to change between LODs with zoom.

Drop_Deadx
2009-01-16, 03:59
One problem is that, the guns look so Hugh compared to the player. I don't know if that's just me or is anyone else seeing this.

Doozer0815
2009-01-16, 10:20
sounds fair. also remove the scope from mg4 - other factions dont got a scope on mg.;) whats with the point that u dont see the handle in rl?

azn_chopsticks_boi
2009-01-16, 11:42
sounds fair. also remove the scope from mg4 - other factions dont got a scope on mg.;) whats with the point that u dont see the handle in rl?

Scope stays on the Mg4, asymmetrical balance and there is no point in arguing , and the handle is being fixed.

MAINERROR
2009-01-16, 11:53
It's not germanys fault that other countries don't attach scopes to their LMGs thou canada does AFAIK.