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Matrox
2008-09-28, 17:39
A new player whom I recently play with, crouchingsniper, has recently taught me a technique with grenadier that is particularly interesting!

Having dropped a firebase as MEC in the hills on the left, He told me to grab a grenadier kit, whilst he went storming off in a vodnik just East of the Enemy firebase. he then put down a marker and told me to stand by the 2x ammo crates, and start shelling smoke grenades. i did as instructed, and he then started guiding my shot onto the enemy Firebase!

When I had zero'd it in correctly, and started shelling it with a large supply of shells some 400m away, not only did i manage to rack up 6 kills, but apparently the poor usmc were running around like headless chickens.

If you ever see us with a squad called mortars or artillery, feel free to grab a grenadier kit from the enemy (or other squad if your cheeky) and join our MEC mobile artillery!

Harrod200
2008-09-28, 17:52
Seems a nice system :D

"A little forward, a little more..."
*4 enemies go orbital*
"There ya go!"

How far is the range of UGLs? Could this be used say by a squad from main using the CP as an arm point?

Outlawz7
2008-09-28, 17:54
Was possible to do before, but the revamped grenadier sights make it easier now

Sondre Einarsen
2008-09-28, 17:58
I am so interested in this... Nice..

Rudd
2008-09-28, 18:22
Was possible to do before, but the revamped grenadier sights make it easier now

indeed

CareBear
2008-09-28, 20:40
iv had finch do some guiding in for me a few times,

notable in the TEAM vs community match, at the north rock he guided my nades onto nanjings etc that were assulting us :D

ReaperMAC
2008-09-28, 20:56
Love the new Grenadier sights, have been able to achieve similar results with the grenadier in v.8. Specially on the rooftops of Muttrah :twisted:

Solid Knight
2008-09-28, 21:09
What can we do to stop this? This is clearly not how the grenade launcher was intended to be used.

strima
2008-09-28, 21:12
What can we do to stop this? This is clearly not how the grenade launcher was intended to be used.

What's it for then? Making nice sounds?

Scot
2008-09-28, 21:13
Oh i did this when grenadiers had no love, but now they have love, its SO easy!!

Solid Knight
2008-09-28, 21:28
What's it for then? Making nice sounds?

Being realistic and blowing stuff.

chimpyang
2008-09-28, 21:52
If you ever go on a training server, grab a whole squad full of grenadiers and fire all round the same target. It looks properly like the morter strikes that the insurgetns get and with careful co-ordination, you can cover a borad area.

Scot
2008-09-28, 21:59
Well apparently the M203 can fire accurately ish to 400m, so it's not that un-realistic.

Spuz36
2008-09-28, 22:01
Love the new Grenadier sights, have been able to achieve similar results with the grenadier in v.8. Specially on the rooftops of Muttrah :twisted:

Ahh yesss, taking out whole squads with one shell, them not even knowing you are there. :P Have to say, sending a guy launching off the Hotel ladder is the best :D

TF6049
2008-09-28, 23:28
YouTube - The 935M shot from airfield to arty island (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgoDIIK_qM0)

He did it first =( But he's a friend of mine =)

DeadSmile187
2008-09-28, 23:40
Already done in C6 was great i had to 15 Kills in the Tourament but Sure add me in Xfire so we can Play write me an PM :=

Alex6714
2008-09-29, 14:33
iv had finch do some guiding in for me a few times,

notable in the TEAM vs community match, at the north rock he guided my nades onto nanjings etc that were assulting us :D

Hydras work too.:D So well that half a squad left because of it.:p

Outlawz7
2008-09-29, 14:40
What can we do to stop this? This is clearly not how the grenade launcher was intended to be used.

LMFAO

What I hear here is 'zomg, someone found an uber tactic, nerf nao!!11'

That's exactly how grenadier is intended to be used, why do you think they added such a long arming distance? To shoot enemies you could take out with your knife? No, to shoot the enemy who is probably too far away for your rifle to be effective or a couple of them happen to be bunched up.

Alex6714
2008-09-29, 14:45
Remember folks, airsupport, tanks, apcs even snipers > grenadier. So when this is happening, think to youself. I canĀ“t kill him, but maybe someone in my team can, I will ask them!

cyberzomby
2008-09-29, 14:56
I am so interested in this... Nice..

I hope your saying this sarcastic. This is not how they use the launcher in real life and clearly this is a real gamey tactic. If you dislike bunny hoppers, kit stealers and every other gamey tactic you shouldnt use this as well.

Its fun that it works this way but please refrain from using it.

People who say: In real life it works 400 m so this is realistic: Its not :P You dont send a guy out to spot for you so you can fire your grenade launcher!

@Outlawz: Not exactly. The bunched up people yes. But more for people hiding in buildings and stuff. Not to really make sniping kills.

daranz
2008-09-29, 15:54
The solution to this is to issue everyone 140mm underbarrel mortars.

WildBill1337
2008-09-30, 02:58
yeah, grenadier is my favorite kit in 0.8 scope+explosives=OWN!

Durandal
2008-10-01, 12:35
My buds and I do this same thing, 'cept from further away with RPG rounds....

Tomato-Rifle
2008-10-01, 12:50
I cant aim for crap with the gl now

Sadist_Cain
2008-10-01, 14:02
Would much rather see the GL have iron sights like everything else :P

The spotter system is loadsa fun, I like doing it with grenadiers but also using support gunners and guiding their shots to target so they can hail down lead from above

@bsurd
2008-10-01, 14:13
sounds like a thing we have to test in the clan...:-)

But here same as Tomato...

I ever be happy not to kill myself with the GL... Never get used to this thing...

Safekeeper
2008-10-02, 23:24
Sounds like the Packered Mortar Gun in the First Strike Mod for BF2142. It can lob HE bolts over several hundred meters, and if you actually do some training beforehand offline (especially using BattleRecorder to see afterward how your shots land) or use a forward spotter, preferably one who has VOIP, that thing is deadly, especially when you have a whole mortar squad (spotter, guy or guys with ammo, and several mortars taking turns to fire for a continuous rain of bolts :mrgreen: ). Use it once on Mos Espa from the vantage point of one of the map's many tall buildings and you'll love it for the rest of your life.

The downside is that it seems to be thebest thing in the entire mod when it comes to ticking enemies off. I swear, only a single volley fired and you've got a whole squad charging you. The same will probably be true in PR :twisted: .

I hope your saying this sarcastic. This is not how they use the launcher in real life and clearly this is a real gamey tactic.So just running around popping off grenades at people you can see is OK, but getting to work as a team with an ammo provider and spotter is "a really gamey tactic"? I call it teamwork, personally.

davetboy_19
2008-10-03, 02:40
Top notch idea, I've done it my self before, by accident...to a team mate. wasn't thinking and thought I had the smoke grenades selected, Turns out it was the HE Rounds and when I randomly fired a round it ended up TKing a team mate from miles away

cyberzomby
2008-10-03, 06:59
Sure its teamwork. But its not realistic. Its just a game tactic ( teamwork ) instead of a real life tactic. To me this is in the same line as prone diving just because you can in a game. You dont see any soldiers in real life doing that?

If you carried a mortar or a weapon that was designed to shoot at unseen targets over a big distance than it would be a cool teamwork trick/tactic. But now its just abusing a weapon. I dont believe that the grenades fired out of these weapons would be so accurate in real life. If they are than Im shutting up :P