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Katarn
2008-04-21, 04:58
The SVD has finally been replaced as the marksman rifle for the MEC. Its place has been taken by the G3/SG1 rifle with a 6x scope.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Katarn/3p.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Katarn/1p-1.jpg

OkitaMakoto
2008-04-21, 05:02
Haha, man, that looks SWEET. That's gonna be the kit I run for when I wanna be leet, or more importantly, do something effective for my squad :)

That scope just screams badass. As much as I liked the SVD for MEC, I think I'll love this even more because the G3 is quickly becoming my favorite weapon in PR.

Is its scope reticle the same as the G3 Scoped riflemans? I would guess it is different[because its a different scope], but I wouldnt be the one to know :) Also, are its deviations/accuracy values the same or slightly tweaked? Any info on that?

Polka
2008-04-21, 05:18
I like it

KP
2008-04-21, 05:20
As I've told you before, really badass. I'm looking forward to .8 even more now! :D

Expendable Grunt
2008-04-21, 05:32
OkitaMakoto;658672']Haha, man, that looks SWEET. That's gonna be the kit I run for when I wanna be leet, or more importantly, do something effective for my squad :)

That scope just screams badass. As much as I liked the SVD for MEC, I think I'll love this even more because the G3 is quickly becoming my favorite weapon in PR.

Is its scope reticle the same as the G3 Scoped riflemans? I would guess it is different[because its a different scope], but I wouldnt be the one to know :) Also, are its deviations/accuracy values the same or slightly tweaked? Any info on that?

Crosshair.

ReadMenace
2008-04-21, 06:24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCRfkPDlwps

-REad

*fixing youtube link, i think, that IS the link you had, right?*

Ghost Dog
2008-04-21, 07:06
Nice!

I also noticed the compass has been adjusted... much better :grin:.

Drude
2008-04-21, 07:44
ahhh finally. SVD is a horrible weapon over 150m> ranges. POSP ain't so bad scope in real life but somehow you (or at least I) cannot utilize it same way in games.

Farks
2008-04-21, 07:55
Rawr...

Saint
2008-04-21, 08:16
Sweet sweet candy!!!!! äääh G3 ;)

halvor1
2008-04-21, 08:23
So youre saying you will remove the SVD or will it be for sniper cause SVD is one of the most used weapon in the east I think?

CodeC.Seven
2008-04-21, 08:29
Looks simply amazing... I cant wait to give some headies with it!!!

Atandon
2008-04-21, 08:36
Excellent

Fearosius
2008-04-21, 08:43
Looks very promosing, can't wait to use, does it also come with a 20 rnd mag?

Eruntalon
2008-04-21, 09:25
The model looks very nice, looking forward to giving it a try out.

But now I'm really starting to wonder if the MEC is supposed the Iranian army. The G3 is the main service rifle of Iran. And there are some other hints to it as well.

Rudd
2008-04-21, 10:37
the SVD is going the way of the dino?

hall0
2008-04-21, 10:53
Great weapon :D

Outlawz7
2008-04-21, 10:58
No more SVD!! :D

eXmaniac
2008-04-21, 11:00
I like it!

Maxfragg
2008-04-21, 11:54
the SVD will ofcause stay for militia an insurgents, but I'm glad with the g3 sg1 for the MEC DM, it looks ways cooler than the normal g3 with its new handguard

Spec
2008-04-21, 12:13
Awesome! I asume the german forces project will also use this G3SG1? However, nice work, love the G3 series :P

Maxfragg
2008-04-21, 12:16
seams so, yes

darkNight
2008-04-21, 13:30
I hate the G3 but okay!

Rhino
2008-04-21, 13:34
So youre saying you will remove the SVD or will it be for sniper cause SVD is one of the most used weapon in the east I think?

:roll:

the G3SG1 is for the MEC, who do not use the AK47 series of weapons, they use the G3 series, and this comes into the G3 series of weapons...

The Insurgents and Militia will still get the SVD...

markonymous
2008-04-21, 13:58
lookin sweet!! but will it have auto fire?

Cyrax-Sektor
2008-04-21, 13:58
Epic win! Hope this frees up SVDs for the Insurgents. ;)

Are the iron sights there because they haven't been removed yet?

Spec
2008-04-21, 14:04
Epic win! Hope this frees up SVDs for the Insurgents. ;)

Are the iron sights there because they haven't been removed yet?

Doenst the real G3SG1 still have ironsights too? Would be quite useful as backup, since they are not as high as the M16's.

Maxfragg
2008-04-21, 14:12
i think the ironsights will stay, and yes, it has still autofire, but as on every G3 its not the best idea to use it ;-) (if the devs would have wanted to have a semi only g3 marksman variant, they would have moddeled a MSG-90 or a MSG-3)

arjan
2008-04-21, 14:18
I hate the G3 but okay!

please dont post than.. i think its nice :grin:

question: are we going to get a update on the m16a4 with m203? just wondering :) coz its my favorite

Spec
2008-04-21, 14:30
please dont post than.. i think its nice

Well, he has a right for his own opinion. And always saying "looks great" isnt constructive either. And he also said that he likes the model, but not the rifle. I'm fine with that statement.

MSG-90 or a MSG-3

Well, i guess the G3SG1 is just more common. At least more than the MSG90. No idea about the MSG3, never seen one, but i'm no expert.

Maxfragg
2008-04-21, 14:33
well, no wonder that you've nver sen the MSG3 it is a very rare hybrid between G3/SG1 and MSG-90, but i doub that the G3/SG1 which was actually made for the german army is less common than the MSG-90, which is in open sale for armys worldwide

=Romagnolo=
2008-04-21, 14:38
sweet !

And the new compass looks more visible. Great news.

Spec
2008-04-21, 14:42
well, no wonder that you've nver sen the MSG3 it is a very rare hybrid between G3/SG1 and MSG-90, but i doub that the G3/SG1 which was actually made for the german army is less common than the MSG-90, which is in open sale for armys worldwide

But isnt the MSG-90 quite new? The SG1 could have been produced earlier for the MEC (who knows what they produce). Well, i could be wrong.

Maxfragg
2008-04-21, 14:56
hm, let me thing, no the 90 stands for the year of its introduction, don't think that this can be called new, but, yes the G3/SG1 is older

Spec
2008-04-21, 15:20
oh, btw, i think you just had your 1000st post :P

Saint
2008-04-21, 16:17
Will it also be the Marksmen rifle for the german forces?? That would be great ;)

Maxfragg
2008-04-21, 16:18
well, since this rifle had been made for the bundeswehr . . .

azn_chopsticks_boi
2008-04-21, 16:27
Will it also be the Marksmen rifle for the german forces?? That would be great ;)Yep, the G3SG1 is the Germans marksman rifle.

hall0
2008-04-21, 16:28
azn_chopsticks_boi;658974']Yep, the G3SG1 is the Germans marksman rifle.

Ok this was the next good news:grin:

DeltaFart
2008-04-21, 19:12
Sweet looking rifle
And that humper video is absolutly distrubing!

Alex6714
2008-04-21, 19:31
That is very win!:-D

SuperTimo
2008-04-21, 19:39
awww im goiong to miss the SVD i loved using it on EJOD, someone play the last post!!

this looks awesome though!!

DavidP
2008-04-22, 01:47
Holy Crap! Is that 8 spare mags i see? Please tell me we get more marksmen ammo!

Ironcomatose
2008-04-22, 03:35
Im wondering, how does this compare to the G3A3?

Ghost1800
2008-04-22, 04:06
I'm wondering, how does this compare to the SVD and M14?

Maxfragg
2008-04-22, 06:11
well, it has a heavyer barrel and some other modifications, so it will more accurate than the normal G3, I guess it will be quite similar to the M14 and far better than the SVD (which is actually more like a 2. row battlerifle than a real precisision rifle, as you can also see by the fact, that every russian infantry squad has a SVD in its rows)

Le_Damner
2008-04-22, 06:15
Good for NATO hunting ! Thanks !

Spaz
2008-04-22, 07:55
Looks great, im going to miss the SVD but still this looks awsome.

Maxfragg
2008-04-22, 11:21
why will you miss it? you can still use it as Militia and MEC and there are some maps for both of them to come

krajsnick
2008-04-22, 18:28
I'm quite new to PR, so what's the negative part with SVD ? ;)

Waaah_Wah
2008-04-22, 20:23
I'm quite new to PR, so what's the negative part with SVD ? ;)

Nothing. They just want MEC to use G3 series weapons

Expendable Grunt
2008-04-22, 20:55
I'm quite new to PR, so what's the negative part with SVD ? ;)

Map view distances.

Katarn
2008-04-22, 21:01
Also, the SVD uses the PSO-1 scope, which is only 4x in magnification. This should be quite a boost with limited damage reduction. (7.62x54R vs. 7.62x51NATO). The SG1 will also do more damage on top of the G3A3 because of the high grain ammunition it uses.

agentscar
2008-04-22, 21:26
I'm sorry,but,the gun,you've done a beautiful job on and etc.

But giving it to MEC,is just...dumb,I think.SVD fits them,very well,you gies just should've made a new one...I'll make sure to kill MEC Marksmen and take their SG1's and give it back to the Germans/KFOR...lol.

bosco_
2008-04-22, 22:24
MEC is already using the G3 and other HK weapons, why shouldn't they use a G3/SG1? :fryingpan:

agentscar
2008-04-22, 23:12
Just because they use some HK weapons doesn't mean they should use them all...Germany uses almost nothing but ALL HK weapons,but they don't use the HK SL8...

azn_chopsticks_boi
2008-04-22, 23:35
SL8 is a civilian version of the G36. Also cause the dev said so, and they do what they want :-P

Expendable Grunt
2008-04-22, 23:59
bosco;660044']MEC is already using the G3 and other HK weapons, why shouldn't they use a G3/SG1? :fryingpan:

Because, you know, Arabs are so dumb they can only use Russian equipment :lol:

agentscar
2008-04-23, 00:21
EXACTLY! :lol:

Maxfragg
2008-04-23, 06:16
welcome (good to ask questions for the beginnig, try not to suggest thinks to easy, since most things have already been suggested here - just an advise ;-) )
well, the point is, that the MEC will get all handweapons from EU companys and not like in (normal) vBF2 from Russia and the SVD especially isn't really better than the MECs main assaultrifle, since it does less damage.
As if written above, the SVD isn't actually made for such huge distances as the other DMR, but to outrange the AK-47 what isn't that hard, so the DMR should be used till 600m distance while the SVD is made for distances till 400m

zangoo
2008-04-23, 12:45
currently the zero ranges for guns are

LRRs:600m
Snipers:500m
Marsmen:400m
Scopes:300m
LMGs:300m
Irons:200m
SMGs:100m
pistols:50m

btw the m40a3 is a sniper, the l115a1 is a lrr, just so you know.

ŠøÏÐÌ£®
2008-04-23, 18:33
I hope it's accurate , Looks kinda lame no offence.

Expendable Grunt
2008-04-23, 19:07
It looks like a G3.

KP
2008-04-23, 19:14
That's because it is one. ;)

agentscar
2008-04-23, 19:51
Hey KP,is this KP from the I.A.A. Forums/P.A.R.A. ?

If so,this is Agent07...

agentscar
2008-04-23, 19:51
Oh,srry,I see your location,srry,lol...

Should've done that as PM,srry...

Bob_Marley
2008-04-23, 21:26
But you didn't, and now you look a fool, Agent's Car! :p

Scot
2008-04-23, 21:38
lmao! nice, but looks good, 1 question, what is a LRR??

Rhino
2008-04-23, 21:40
lmao! nice, but looks good, 1 question, what is a LRR??

LRR stands for Long Range Rifle afaik.

Scot
2008-04-23, 22:24
cheers rhino!

billdan
2008-04-24, 00:11
'tis F/A capable, correct?

if so, the sg1 will be my favorite toy, whether the recoil/handling is better than the g3 or not.

more scope power=more win

zangoo
2008-04-24, 01:12
anyone know the muzzle velocity for this gun, i cant find anything about it.

Expendable Grunt
2008-04-24, 03:01
That's because it is one. ;)

I know, I was talking to Counterstrike name guy.

Red6Tango
2008-04-24, 03:49
For those that are griping about the new rifle remember that you appreciate the "reality" part of the mod. With that in mind consider that there are very few non-NATO military organizations that will issue multiple caliber rifles for use by infantry. Why issue G3 variants in 7.62X51 NATO and other rifles in 7.62X54 COMBLOC?

This is an obvious logistics nightmare that reality brings to light when dealing with source location, purchase, and proper identification of inventory to ensure that someone doesn't send the wrong caliber ammunition to the wrong people. Mr. Murphy is alive and well in logistics systems worldwide.

What I'm getting at is simple standardization. You'd do the same if you thought your head was going to explode trying to sort all that out for your troops. Dealing with logistics types I tried to use kidd gloves so I could ensure I didn't get intentionally screwed over by some REMF.

With that said, I look forward to having a go with it. Thank you for your efforts.

KP
2008-04-24, 05:40
I know, I was talking to Counterstrike name guy.

Heh, the ever-famous sarcasm-over-the-internet situation.

black-wolf
2008-04-28, 13:51
What kind of scope is it? I mean: something like the SVD, or just a simple cross.

Rhino
2008-04-28, 14:21
http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/4407/z42ye9.gif

black-wolf
2008-04-28, 19:05
Thx.