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Stigger
2007-12-13, 03:33
Time to show and tell on the RAF Harrier GR-9 ;-)

There is quite a lot of difference between this & the USMC version so that come next. :-)

Making new ordinance to go with it starting with the Paveway2 LGB.



http://www.pintura3d.com/downloads/reality/Harrier_Skyscene1.jpg



http://www.pintura3d.com/graphics/renders/harrier__cockpit_26_vray4.jpg

http://www.pintura3d.com/downloads/reality/GR9_wip20.jpg

http://www.pintura3d.com/downloads/reality/GR9_wip19.jpg

charliegrs
2007-12-13, 03:41
quote from mclovin: "I got a boner!"

HughJass
2007-12-13, 03:57
nice

Raniak
2007-12-13, 04:02
It's hot ! I Love the cockpit !

NYgurkha
2007-12-13, 04:11
oh god oh god oh god.... this is gonna be a good year...

Teek
2007-12-13, 04:14
oh
my
god!!!!1!!

Desertfox
2007-12-13, 04:15
you should put a different map image for each PR map its on =D Looks awesome :D

WNxLT7
2007-12-13, 04:37
stop taking screen shots from falcon 4 and lockon! ;)

PlayPR!
2007-12-13, 05:42
That first picture is desktop worthy, infact.... I think I'll set it right now. :grin:

NYgurkha
2007-12-13, 06:32
i got in trouble with my gf over this, she was trying to get my attention but this image was just soo beautiful...

MAINERROR
2007-12-13, 07:38
It's awesome!

bosco_
2007-12-13, 08:55
Very nice ;)

Top_Cat_AxJnAt
2007-12-13, 09:13
Definitely looks much more sexy when it is not packing any ordinance!

The detail in the cockpit is astonishing.

Brilliant job............again, Stigger!;)

SNIPERxWOLFxGB
2007-12-13, 11:08
Finally the British (RAF) have a jet!!!

nice:grin::lol:

LtSoucy
2007-12-13, 11:20
^Ya, And looks great. But what kinds of Gun, and other murdering things will it carry?

markonymous
2007-12-13, 12:08
my god its beautiful

Polka
2007-12-13, 13:46
I have one thing to say:
Sex.

G.Drew
2007-12-13, 13:48
NEU HOTTNESS!

NYgurkha
2007-12-13, 13:49
I have one thing to say:
Sex.

i add to your statement and say one word:

Orgasm

Bob_Marley
2007-12-13, 15:38
^Ya, And looks great. But what kinds of Gun, and other murdering things will it carry?

Well, for a start, not guns. The RAF, in their wisdom, decided to scrap the old 30mm ADEN cannon pods and never bought the 25mm replacements they said they were going to.

As such, probable armament consists of a combination of Paveway guides bombs, CVR7 rockets, Brimstone missiles and dumb bombs for AtS work and probably a couple of sidewiders or ASRAAMs to provide at least a semblence of air to air capability.

Anyway, awesome model, can't wait to shoot it down! :D

Gunwitch
2007-12-13, 16:10
Fantastic guys, truly looks sexy. :mrgreen:

RAF were stupid to ditch the cannon, came in damn handy during the Falklands War. Useless muppets ;-)

MadTommy
2007-12-13, 16:27
my reaction... just wow
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/5579/eyes1ln1.jpg

Engineer
2007-12-13, 16:30
God damn sweet... 8)

Now try to find a way to overcome the engine and make cockpit interactive, not just a static picture :-D

Outlawz7
2007-12-13, 17:42
God damn sweet... 8)

Now try to find a way to overcome the engine and make cockpit interactive, not just a static picture :-D

The AIX mod already has this, the cockpit is open, but when you enter the jet, it closes down.

Rhino
2007-12-13, 17:45
The AIX mod already has this, the cockpit is open, but when you enter the jet, it closes down.

you mean the hatch? ye that aint too hard, what he was meaning a working map, radar, button lights etc :p

<1sk>Headshot
2007-12-13, 17:55
Gorgeous.

joselucca
2007-12-13, 17:59
what?!? freakin AWESOME!

LekyIRL
2007-12-13, 18:48
:shock:

darkNight
2007-12-13, 19:04
The hell awesome!

S.P.C-[Reality]-
2007-12-13, 19:17
:-?
:neutral:
:shock:
:tired:
:shocked:

Ironcomatose
2007-12-13, 20:52
sex.

i take in the cockpit and skin is done then?

agentscar
2007-12-13, 23:57
YAY,Brits. finally getting airforce!

.:iGi:.NinjaJedi
2007-12-14, 11:03
excellent

Hotrod525
2007-12-14, 13:32
The Harrier have not been switched to F35 Ligthning 2 ?

http://www.european-defence.co.uk/jsf.html

Rhino
2007-12-14, 14:20
The Harrier have not been switched to F35 Ligthning 2 ?

http://www.european-defence.co.uk/jsf.html

ye, we are well aware of that, thou that is for the Royal Navy and not the RAF :p

but most likly if we have brit carrier based maps in the futurer, the JSF and the Harrier will most likly be working together and surving diffrent roles.

Hotrod525
2007-12-14, 14:23
Rhino;549974']ye, we are well aware of that, thou that is for the Royal Navy and not the RAF :p

but most likly if we have brit carrier based maps in the futurer, the JSF and the Harrier will most likly be working together and surving diffrent roles.


Oups i'm sorry :)

BTW Harrier and F35 are not both bomber ?

Rhino
2007-12-14, 14:31
Oups i'm sorry :)

BTW Harrier and F35 are not both bomber ?

Harrier really fits into the "Attack Jet" class, like the A-10, Frogfoot etc as these days its mainly used in CAS and its speed etc dont make it a very good fighter these days. the F35b JSF can be kitted up to handle lots of diffrent situations, but we will mainly be using it as a carrier based fighter jet.

Hotrod525
2007-12-14, 14:46
Rhino;549981']Harrier really fits into the "Attack Jet" class, like the A-10, Frogfoot etc as these days its mainly used in CAS and its speed etc dont make it a very good fighter these days. the F35b JSF can be kitted up to handle lots of diffrent situations, but we will mainly be using it as a carrier based fighter jet.

Yeah i was knowed the Harrier was only flying at 800KM/H, i suppose F35 STOVL will replace Typhoon in some map ? ( Typhoon cannot take off from carrier... )


*off topic* BTW i'm surprised to seen Canadian AirForce buying (F35) it too :)

Rhino
2007-12-14, 15:01
Yeah i was knowed the Harrier was only flying at 800KM/H, i suppose Harrier will replace Typhoon in some map ? ( Typhoon cannot take off from carrier... )


*off topic* BTW i'm surprised to seen Canadian AirForce buying (F35) it too :)

na, re read my post :p

Harrier will surve the role of a Attack jet for the brits in PR, providing CAS, ie, its a tank buster like the A-10, just not as good thou dose have some other pros the A-10 dont.

the F-35b JSF will surve as the brits Carrier based fighter, where the EF2000 will be the brits land based fighter, see ;)

Hotrod525
2007-12-14, 15:05
Rhino;549996']na, re read my post :p

Harrier will surve the role of a Attack jet for the brits in PR, providing CAS, ie, its a tank buster like the A-10, just not as good thou dose have some other pros the A-10 dont.

the F-35b JSF will surve as the brits Carrier based fighter, where the EF2000 will be the brits land based fighter, see ;)

Sorry just waking up... i understand the 1st time... just write it wrong...ill edit... lol..

Did the weapon load gonna be change in 0.7 ? like some JDAM on the wing :D

Sadist_Cain
2007-12-14, 23:54
I would love to see the harrier on a map like a bigger mestia :P seeing all those trees and swooping through them then switching to land vertically in a tiny cutting in the trees :D

Waaah_Wah
2007-12-15, 01:51
Lol why would you want to land in the middle of the forest??:P

Sadist_Cain
2007-12-15, 01:58
and I quote "Because it's there" :D

Viper5
2007-12-15, 02:12
Heh Mestia would be far too small. On fulll throttle u'd have to be in a constant turn to stay inbounds.

motherdear
2007-12-15, 04:56
Viper5;550406']Heh Mestia would be far too small. On fulll throttle u'd have to be in a constant turn to stay inbounds.

mestia like map, meaning the new mestia maps being made in the much bigger kashan format (if i understood the released info correctly) i think Rhino was making it and it showed a challenger tank on a hilltop overlooking the forest with the sun going down.

Rhino
2007-12-15, 05:04
mestia like map, meaning the new mestia maps being made in the much bigger kashan format (if i understood the released info correctly) i think Rhino was making it and it showed a challenger tank on a hilltop overlooking the forest with the sun going down.

http://www.realitymod.com/forum/maps-wip-battle-qinling-t31988.html ?

Richy
2007-12-15, 09:25
no i think he means this
http://media.realitymod.com/news/qinling_challenger.jpg

it was the eurofighter was in the other picture

Smuke
2007-12-15, 11:31
OMFG u huys are just like amazing


i saltute all devs and mappers and everyone, this is going to be the greatest mod ever.

hall0
2007-12-15, 13:16
Nice plane :D

creepin
2007-12-15, 14:51
that looks hot, hope to see this on Al-Basrah in 0.7

Maxfragg
2007-12-15, 15:25
read the forums, and you will know, that there will never again be jets on Al-Bashra especially not in the Insurgentcy mode

99lynx
2007-12-16, 23:03
sweet

Hotrod525
2007-12-16, 23:30
no i think he means this
http://media.realitymod.com/news/qinling_challenger.jpg

it was the eurofighter was in the other picture


qinling_challenger

Its the Challenger in Battle of QINLING [ UK vs China ]

BetterDeadThanRed
2007-12-17, 01:07
Let's be the first mod to get this right:

*Edited for lack of research*

1 GAU-12U 25mm rotary gun for the AV-8B

Eddie Baker
2007-12-17, 03:53
Let's be the first mod to get this right:

2 30mm cannons on the Gr.9

1 GAU-12U 25mm rotary gun for the AV-8B

Actually, it's no cannons for the GR9.

Sabre_tooth_tigger
2007-12-17, 05:19
I would love to see the harrier on a map like a bigger mestia :P seeing all those trees and swooping through them then switching to land vertically in a tiny cutting in the trees :D


The RAF practise in the Welsh valleys, Mestia is a set of hillocks in comparison. Long series of mountains is more their terrority, anything less is a bit too tight and tree level is nuts, more what a heli would do

I have footage of a B52 clearing a mountain ridge by 30foot but unfortunately in the same video while training for an airshow it shows him stalling it with a total loss


http://i1.tinypic.com/6txaruc.jpg

http://www.warplane.co.uk/Wales.htm

Just for scale on the larger map below it shows Bala lake, Ive stood by that lake and watched a jet clear it in about 15 secs while about 200 feet off the ground


http://i15.tinypic.com/85xb1ax.jpg

http://img5.glowfoto.com/images/2007/12/16-2105541125T.jpg (http://www.glowfoto.com/viewimage.php?img=16-210554L&y=2007&m=12&t=jpg&rand=1125&srv=img5)

http://img3.glowfoto.com/images/2007/12/16-2058232278T.jpg (http://www.glowfoto.com/viewimage.php?img=16-205823L&y=2007&m=12&t=jpg&rand=2278&srv=img3)

Bob_Marley
2007-12-17, 19:18
Eddie Baker;551957']Actually, it's no cannons for the GR9.

Just so you don't have to take Eddie's word for it, a link to the RAF page on the Harrier. Note how cannons are conspicuos by their absence. (http://www.raf.mod.uk/equipment/harriergr9.cfm)

Richy
2007-12-17, 19:47
Also note the lack of cannons on the eurofighter

Sabre_tooth_tigger
2007-12-17, 20:13
No topgun dogfighting then

BetterDeadThanRed
2007-12-17, 20:21
Hmmm... I stand corrected, the Gr.9s don't have cannons. Strange.

As far as the Eurofighter... I'm 99.9% sure it is fitted with a cannon. The RAF originally announced that it wouldn't, but there was an uproar among the pilots who demanded that one be installed.

BloodBane611
2007-12-17, 20:24
Sweet model. Can't wait to call in some air support from that baby.

$kelet0r
2007-12-17, 21:17
IRL the Harrier is not much good at close air support :p
Obsolete imo

BetterDeadThanRed
2007-12-17, 21:59
Well nobody asked your opinion. :p

CAS_117
2007-12-17, 22:58
The Eurofighter has a gun.

http://www.airforce-technology.com/contractors/cannons/mauser2/

Learned that one the hard way with the F-4. X(

Bob_Marley
2007-12-17, 23:48
Well, if I recall correctly it does have a gun. Originally it wasn't going to, but the lump of concerete they were going to put in its place screwed up the wight distribution.






But the MOD didn't buy any ammunition for it.

Viper5
2007-12-18, 02:03
Anyone know why they wouldnt put a gun/buy ammo on jets?

BetterDeadThanRed
2007-12-18, 02:07
Because bureaucrats never learn.

Teek
2007-12-18, 03:24
Viper5;552653']Anyone know why they would put a gun/buy ammo on jets?

Because Its the same story as in the 60s, we have 1337 hAx Missiles, we dont need a gun. Or
why bring a knife to a gun fight.
Just in case your pistol breaks.

Glimmerman
2007-12-18, 13:58
How will the paveway system work on the harrier, will there be a spotter with a SOFLAM on the ground marking targets for the bombs to lock on?

Waaah_Wah
2007-12-18, 15:38
Because Its the same story as in the 60s, we have 1337 hAx Missiles, we dont need a gun. Or
why bring a knife to a gun fight.
Just in case your pistol breaks.

Didnt US get a little raped by Vietnams Mig 26's at the start of the war?

Jedimushroom
2007-12-18, 16:39
They would of if vietnam had had mig 26s at the start of the war...

Originally it was Mig 17s which failed horribly against the F-4, but then the good old Bear gave them Mig 21s which evened things up a bit, wasn't much air fighting to late in the war as NV resorted to guerilla tactics.

Anyway, I heard somewhere that the Harrier cannot accelerate upwards, this seems slightly contradictive, anyone know why this is?

Cp
2007-12-18, 16:45
Yes IIRC the harrier cant perform a vertical takeoff if its fullyloaded (fuel and armament), But it can still tilt the nozzles to shorten the takeoff distance needed.

SuperTimo
2007-12-18, 16:53
woo RAF Rule harriers rule! Happy days!

Viper5
2007-12-18, 20:28
WRT Vietnam:

Yeah, Navy Phantoms were only achieving somewhere around a 2-3:1 K/D Ratio. Because of this, Top Gun was created and a gun was added to the Phantom, which produced some say 20:1 K/D Ratios. Ultimately it settled around 12.5:1

USAF was somewhere around 4-5:1 I think
Not sure on USMC

Bottom line the US learned was always put a gun on the plane. Has saved a lot of men both on the ground and in te air.

Waaah_Wah
2007-12-19, 00:51
They would of if vietnam had had mig 26s at the start of the war...

Originally it was Mig 17s which failed horribly against the F-4, but then the good old Bear gave them Mig 21s which evened things up a bit, wasn't much air fighting to late in the war as NV resorted to guerilla tactics.

Anyway, I heard somewhere that the Harrier cannot accelerate upwards, this seems slightly contradictive, anyone know why this is?

Yeah they used Mig 21's not 26's. My bad;)

Fearosius
2007-12-19, 10:05
Nice view in the cockpit! Hope it flies well!8)

Delta*RandyShugart*
2007-12-20, 02:40
pretty nifty.

Kislorod
2007-12-20, 10:04
Oh my god!!

Ghost Dog
2007-12-20, 15:02
I wish all these Dev Journal topics were closed... so I wouldn't have to check 10 pages looking for an update :(.

Looks very good btw, can't wait for ingame pics ;).

Stigger
2007-12-21, 01:54
I wish all these Dev Journal topics were closed... so I wouldn't have to check 10 pages looking for an update :(.

Looks very good btw, can't wait for ingame pics ;).

Good point, cos you just don't know what page a dev is going plant those updates! :wink:


Created new1000LB Paveway II guided bomb.

Fins flip out on drop.

Fuel tanks and sidewinders.

Last update before christmas. 8-)

http://www.pintura3d.com/downloads/reality/GR9_wip19.jpg

http://www.pintura3d.com/downloads/reality/GR9_wip20.jpg

fOgGy
2007-12-21, 01:58
SSSSVVVVVEEEEEEETTTTTT!!!!!! ;)

Ironcomatose
2007-12-21, 02:06
I was just wondering, what will be the dog fighting skills of this bird?? Should a pilot flying this even attempt to engage or is it bad enough that you best run? You dont have to give me details but just a vague answer will be nice :)

Viper5
2007-12-21, 02:09
I was just wondering, what will be the dog fighting skills of this bird?? Should a pilot flying this even attempt to engage or is it bad enough that you best run? You dont have to give me details but just a vague answer will be nice :)

Since it will be a ground attack aircraft analogous to A10, Su25, etc. I'd imagine it would also have somewhat similar handling

Ironcomatose
2007-12-21, 02:11
Since it will be a ground attack aircraft analogous to A10, Su25, etc. I'd imagine it would also have somewhat similar handling

I see how that would make sense in game but i doubt that the harrier flies like an A-10 IRL.

Viper5
2007-12-21, 02:48
Yeah me too. Just takin a guess. I'd prolly aniticipate a reduced payload/destructive ability but better maneuverability.

Rhino
2007-12-21, 04:34
I see how that would make sense in game but i doubt that the harrier flies like an A-10 IRL.

the harrier will have its own flight physics, for a start it has VTOL :p

it will be armed with afew AA missiles but they will only be for self defence like the A-10.

Eddie Baker
2007-12-21, 05:13
I was just wondering, what will be the dog fighting skills of this bird?? Should a pilot flying this even attempt to engage or is it bad enough that you best run? You dont have to give me details but just a vague answer will be nice :)

Well, it will be at a bit of a disadvantage because it has no gun. It will have two short range AAMs, though.

CAS_117
2007-12-21, 06:35
I wouldn't go chasing any MiG's in a harrier. And what the hell is a MiG-26? Are the Russians at it again?

Vlade.the_medic
2007-12-21, 07:00
Wow this is gonna be nice...

G.Drew
2007-12-21, 09:24
Stigger;555376']Good point, cos you just don't know what page a dev is going plant those updates! :wink:


Created new1000LB Paveway II guided bomb.

Fins flip out on drop.

Fuel tanks and sidewinders.

Last update before christmas. 8-)

http://www.pintura3d.com/downloads/reality/GR9_wip19.jpg

http://www.pintura3d.com/downloads/reality/GR9_wip20.jpg

oh.my.god


Caboose: i couldnt find it either, so i just got the 25 and 27
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_MiG-25
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan_MiG-27

UK_Force
2007-12-21, 09:46
Since it will be a ground attack aircraft analogous to A10, Su25, etc. I'd imagine it would also have somewhat similar handling


The Harrier (Medium Ground Attack) does not compare to the A10 or SU25 (Heavy Ground Attack), at all, its an extremely Agile plane ;-)



.

UK_Force
2007-12-21, 09:51
IRL the Harrier is not much good at close air support :p
Obsolete imo


Wrong, I have and still do control Harriers as an FAC, in fact I have controlled more Harriers than anything else tbh.


So not sure where you got that from ?

Vlade.the_medic
2007-12-21, 09:57
I hope its not personaly, I loved the A-10 its too nice of a plane to be ousted....

Rhino
2007-12-21, 10:01
I hope its not personaly, I loved the A-10 its too nice of a plane to be ousted....

A-10 = US AF jet

Harrier GR9 = RAF/RN jet.

G.Drew
2007-12-21, 10:02
Rhino;555571']A-10 = US AF jet

Harrier GR9 = RAF/RN jet.

hence the Royal Navy FAA markings on the plane

Viper5
2007-12-21, 19:44
UK_Force;555558']The Harrier (Medium Ground Attack) does not compare to the A10 or SU25 (Heavy Ground Attack), at all, its an extremely Agile plane ;-)



.

I'm aware of that, although one could argue that The A10 is Medium Ground Attack while the Harrier is multi-role, leaving the heavy to something like the F117 and AC130

I was talking in terms of PR and its role.

Bob_Marley
2007-12-22, 10:01
caboose;555490']I wouldn't go chasing any MiG's in a harrier. And what the hell is a MiG-26? Are the Russians at it again?

It doesn't exist, all MiGs have odd numbers.

And looking at that pic, would I be right in thinking that its only ground attack abilities in PR are going to be coming from 4 laser guided bombs? No rockets, brimstones or maveriks? (ah well, better than the 4 dumb bombs on the Fantan, I guess.)

Rhino
2007-12-22, 10:05
Bob_Marley;556295']And looking at that pic, would I be right in thinking that its only ground attack abilities in PR are going to be coming from 4 laser guided bombs? No rockets, brimstones or maveriks? (ah well, better than the 4 dumb bombs on the Fantan, I guess.)

or maybe stigger hasn't finished all the ordinance yet :p

Bob_Marley
2007-12-22, 10:08
W00t.

I was worried we'd have another Fantan on our hands, hopefully not, now.

Oh yeah, about the Fantan armament...



:p

G.Drew
2007-12-22, 17:56
oh god ur strapping a JDAM to the Fantan :razz:

lion551
2007-12-22, 21:46
Wow what an awesome model, Looks incredible. Cant wait to drop some jdams on some insurgents on Al Basarah! No more vcp for you! :P

halvor1
2007-12-22, 22:03
wow that was one nice plane!

Mongolian_dude
2007-12-24, 21:52
F117 and AC130

Methinks the AC130 counts as a gunship, because it hangs around....Then again, i could be smattering crap:)

...mongol...

robbo
2007-12-24, 23:08
To compensate for the lack of a Cannon doesnt the harrier have CVR7 rockets and alot fo them for the Anti Personel Role?

Harrier : 662mph
A10 : 512mph
Su2(forgot) : 590mph

will the speed be scale?