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requiem
2007-10-12, 22:50
Project Reality is moving to Crysis... just kidding! Although a lot of new games are coming out right now, we firmly believe that Project Reality is still one of the best team-oriented FPS's on the market. We never had the masses in mind, but rather the players who are attracted to teamwork, community and good times in general. It is evident that Project Reality is becoming stronger with every release due to the amount of players online as well as the quality and depth of our mod. Our next release, 0.7, is well underway and we thought it was time to show you some of the exciting things we've been working on.

First off, we have some in-game screenshots of the British main battle tank, the Challenger 2, doesn't it look good?


http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr07/oct07update/thumbs/C2_1_th.jpg (http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr07/oct07update/C2_1.jpg) http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr07/oct07update/thumbs/C2_2_th.jpg (http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr07/oct07update/C2_2.jpg)


If that's not enough, we also have the British Scimitar, an armored recon vehicle which dates back to the Falklands and will serve you guys well in Project Reality.


http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr07/oct07update/thumbs/S_1_th.jpg (http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr07/oct07update/S_1.jpg) http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr07/oct07update/thumbs/S_2_th.jpg (http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr07/oct07update/S_2.jpg)
http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr07/oct07update/thumbs/S_3_th.jpg (http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr07/oct07update/S_3.jpg) http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr07/oct07update/thumbs/S_4_th.jpg (http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr07/oct07update/S_4.jpg)


Last but not least, we figured we'd show you some of the new 0.7 maps. The first, a Muttrah remake, is being built from scratch off local maps and detailed photography. As you can see, the mosque is what you could call a replica. This remake will see more APCs and possibly some new toys to fly around with! Marines, be ready to take the port!


http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr07/oct07update/thumbs/M1_th.jpg (http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr07/oct07update/M1.jpg) http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr07/oct07update/thumbs/M2_th.jpg (http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr07/oct07update/M2.jpg)


The second map, Fools Road is what people have been waiting for, a large map forcing the British and local Militia into a ground battle. The map will boast vast landscapes and beautiful scenery, just don't lose sight of that enemy squad behind the tree line!


http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr07/oct07update/thumbs/FR1_th.jpg (http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr07/oct07update/FR1.jpg) http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr07/oct07update/thumbs/FR2_th.jpg (http://media.realitymod.com/news/pr07/oct07update/FR2.jpg)


Our forums are always a good place to meet and chat with other PR players, but if you're looking for some gaming buddies, don't forget to join the XFire Project Reality Team (http://www.xfire.com/clans/prclan/). Be a good sport, spread the vibes and talk to some new players about PR!



-The Project Reality Team

Outlawz7
2007-10-12, 22:52
*has orgasm from all the smexy screenies*

:D

Alex6714
2007-10-12, 22:55
Awesome! I can´t wait!

*same as outlawz*

Cherni
2007-10-12, 23:37
F*cking AWESOME!!!

T4nn13
2007-10-12, 23:41
Ah man who´s gonna wipe that wet spot away :(

Nice going there!

Ragni<RangersPL>
2007-10-12, 23:47
Great pics :razz:

What will be the difference between "framed" Scimitar and "unframed" Scimitar?

http://www.gloryhoundz.com/prmm/users/rhino/oct07update/S_2.jpg

danthemanbuddy
2007-10-12, 23:52
F*CKING Amazing Guys Keep up the good work. The scimitar suprised me! Does the bars around it give extra RPG protection?

Rhino
2007-10-12, 23:59
Great pics :razz:

What will be the difference between "framed" Scimitar and "unframed" Scimitar?

http://www.gloryhoundz.com/prmm/users/rhino/oct07update/S_2.jpg

Its a RPG cage, in r/l its there to stop RPGs hitting the amour, there is a large chance if they hit the cage that they will just get stuck in it, and wont explode or if they do explode, they will explode on the cage and not the main amour :)

Thats how I understand it works thou, but better ask one of the MIs for all the info :)

We hope to make it so it gives more protection aginst RPGs ingame also :)

Ragni<RangersPL>
2007-10-13, 00:14
Rhino;507064']Its a RPG cage, in r/l its there to stop RPGs hitting the amour, there is a large chance if they hit the cage that they will just get stuck in it, and wont explode or if they do explode, they will explode on the cage and not the main amour :)

Thats how I understand it works thou, but better ask one of the MIs for all the info :)

We hope to make it so it gives more protection aginst RPGs ingame also :)

Don't worry, I know what it does in reality.
Just wanted to know will it be any difference in game :razz:
Thanks for answer.

JustMe
2007-10-13, 00:31
Hey it really looks good, the screenshots are awsome. you guys do good work.

i talk to all i can about PR, some allready tried it, they hate the reality of walking, LOL, they never read how to get in a hummer or how to get a crewkit , so they walk & that kills it for some, LOL.

=HR=Drayu
2007-10-13, 02:24
Sa-weet!

Clypp
2007-10-13, 05:27
Any rules/feature changes in progress?

Muttrah 2 will be sweeeeeet.

Ironcomatose
2007-10-13, 05:57
Nice update. Good to see you havent forgotten about us :) That Scimitar indeed surprised me and i wonder what other neat toys you guys have hiding....

Dan UK
2007-10-13, 07:03
Looking good keep it up! Just wondering will the Scimitar replace the warrior?

Undies
2007-10-13, 07:42
Well done lads good effort.

Spaz
2007-10-13, 08:00
I can't wait for Muttrah 2 :D

LekyIRL
2007-10-13, 08:08
Can't wait to try out that Scimitar!;)

@DanUK:I don't think it will since it's more of a recon vehicle(?)

marcoelnk
2007-10-13, 08:13
STUNNING!....I WANN HAVE THESE MUTTRAH OBJECTS FOR THE EDITOR SO BAD!!!!

Doc_Frank
2007-10-13, 08:31
Don't worry, I know what it does in reality.
Just wanted to know will it be any difference in game :razz:
Thanks for answer.

Maybe it's an anti-theft measure that simply makes it impossible to get into the armour. :smile:

Nice teasing by the way!
:33_love: :D

Top_Cat_AxJnAt
2007-10-13, 08:35
Stunning. I was ready to be impressed and i am, its very very cool.

Few Q's - why does in pick containing 2 Scimitars in the desert, one have a cage and the other not. Just random and all will have a cage in the final build or....?

P.s the Scimitar with cage and GREEN CAMO looks so classy - dirty and deadly but swish.

Chuc
2007-10-13, 08:42
Maybe its one of those things where an engineer can reinforce a vehicle, under certain conditions =P

KP
2007-10-13, 08:50
SWEET! It's the shoe-mobile! :D

And a Challenger 2. In. Basrah.

And did I see something about new toys to fly around in in Muttrah?

*starts shaking in pure ecstasy*

Top_Cat_AxJnAt
2007-10-13, 08:53
KP AL Bas might just be a place to show off the new vehicles and not the map they will actually be included in!

Although C2s in Al Bas would be hilarious for all....for a while~!

Darkpowder
2007-10-13, 08:54
awesome requiem my utmost congrats to the efforts of the team. That scimitar is going to be a cracking bit of kit. UK_Force is probably getting misty eyed as we speak ;)

Mouse
2007-10-13, 09:09
Fantastic, i must say

Only 1 gripe, The Challeger, looks a bit bare, could some sort of kit, like bergans and what not be hanging of it? that sort of thing?

Chuc
2007-10-13, 09:13
Also the M2 on the cupola.. are you guys willing to swap it for the GPMG? =)

THE_BIG_ADDY
2007-10-13, 09:26
Muttrah ! Muttrah ! Muttrah ! .... WOOOhooooo :razz: :razz: :razz:

LiquidSnake
2007-10-13, 09:27
PURE SCHMEXYNESS ZOMG Make this site 18+ cuz everey teen (me included) has an instant-tastic-orgasm.

KP
2007-10-13, 09:46
KP AL Bas might just be a place to show off the new vehicles and not the map they will actually be included in!

Although C2s in Al Bas would be hilarious for all....for a while~!

Sssh. No need to destroy my fantasies. :wink:

Top_Cat_AxJnAt
2007-10-13, 10:03
I just realize the Scimitar is going to very fast, RPG protected and packs the same gun at the Warrior = HIGH SPEED PWNAGE!

Twill be the ultimate run gun ever, TANK DRIVE bys and all!



p.s this will only work in a H-AT free enviroment = Ins. maps = im turning GUn HO, yee har!

Chuc
2007-10-13, 10:15
The faster a vehicle.. the quicker they run into ambushes ;)

foxxravin
2007-10-13, 11:37
OMFG!!! :D:D:D:D Cant wait!! :D *orgasm*

SNIPERxWOLFxGB
2007-10-13, 11:59
what he said!!!

mrmong
2007-10-13, 12:16
scimitar is my fav, tank im glad we have one now

Surround
2007-10-13, 13:31
Damn I was scared about the first sentence :D

Makee
2007-10-13, 13:38
Dev's:

http://www.plig.net/things/pictures/rock_rule.jpg

G.Drew
2007-10-13, 14:16
some excellent work there guys, great work!

*dribble* Scimitar....

Sabre_tooth_tigger
2007-10-13, 14:36
I'm impressed if that cage could stop RPG damage. Maybe the cage will be the reason for the vehicle never taking much damage from RPG, its just bf2 doesnt allow seperate skins (like reactive armour,etc) on a vehicle does it.
Maybe the cage area is a strong area on the 3d model and the rest is pretty weak, simple :p

It all looks very good, well done :)

Rhino
2007-10-13, 14:49
we dont need advice on how to code it....

all we are going to do is give the cage a stronger amour than the normal amour, so if it hits the cage it will still do damage, but not as much.

Hotrod525
2007-10-13, 14:54
Dev's:

http://www.plig.net/things/pictures/rock_rule.jpg


I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE IT now where the U.S. Army huh ? anyway i dont care at all of U.S.Army faction i want Canadian :D Any statement on Canadian P.R. can be Great! And dont give me forum link i check all the CF forum every day lol

AnRK
2007-10-13, 15:52
Rhino;507405']we dont need advice on how to code it....

all we are going to do is give the cage a stronger amour than the normal amour, so if it hits the cage it will still do damage, but not as much.

I take it it's a bit beyond BF2 to have the things being destroyed when they take a nasty hit?

Rhino
2007-10-13, 15:59
I take it it's a bit beyond BF2 to have the things being destroyed when they take a nasty hit?

destroyable children is not possible in BF2 no :p

77SiCaRiO77
2007-10-13, 16:34
is nice to see some asimetrical vehicles , maybe now we can have a votnick amphibius , etc ?

USMC[KILLER]
2007-10-13, 16:38
I can't wait to see the M16a4 w/ the Acogs ingame!:):):)

Rhino
2007-10-13, 16:43
is nice to see some asimetrical vehicles , maybe now we can have a votnick amphibius , etc ?

the scimitar will only be used on asymmetrical maps like Al basrah etc, wont be used on symmetrical maps unless the other team has something more or less the same, and if you balance it out by giving the MEC 1 extra APC, and giving the brits 3 scimitars that would turn into asymmetrical again :p

The vodnic is used on symmetrical maps as a heavy jeep, and without any other MEC heavy jeeps, it will stay as it is, for now.

requiem
2007-10-13, 17:05
Well, I think we'll be giving the Militia an X-Wing or two to balance things out. You know, for the sake of realism :)

marcoelnk
2007-10-13, 17:12
what about giving the civilians a nuke-dead-pack....?

Petey
2007-10-13, 18:34
dude the challenger is so sexy....someone pass me some lotion. lol

Mora
2007-10-13, 18:46
What about the map Wake Island Remake?

Rhino
2007-10-13, 18:51
What about the map Wake Island Remake?

Aint being made by the DEV team, being made by a R-CON. We may use it, we may not, it may just become a custom map for PR. At this time I can not say as we aint drawn up any final plan for what maps will be in .7

There are also other new maps that are coming up in .7, that are being made by the DEV team which we aint shown in this new post.

Sabre_tooth_tigger
2007-10-13, 19:06
Well, I think we'll be giving the Militia an X-Wing or two to balance things out. You know, for the sake of realism :)

Well they get a pilot kit so I figured it was only a matter of time :?

http://i20.tinypic.com/169ouc0.jpg

:shock:

D4rk_l0rdBR
2007-10-13, 19:34
Nice job people!!!

Keep the good work, see u in the battle :-P

Fullforce
2007-10-14, 01:19
Looking good keep it up! Just wondering will the Scimitar replace the warrior?

The warrior will still be the counterpart to the other faction's APCs. The Scimitar may replace it on some maps where a faster, weaker APC is better in game sense, and the opposing side doesn't have their APC. Otherwise, it'll either be fielded with the Warrior as a recon element in its own right.

Top_Cat_AxJnAt
2007-10-14, 11:41
The Scimitar is used extensively for reconnaissance therefore would it not be highly appropriate to include this vehicle on maps with MTBs, like Kashan. Where the Scimitar scout outs enemy MTBs, using its speed to flank behind enemy lines, spot, track, thus allowing friendly MTBs to outmaneuver the enemy tanks.



Also, as note, this vehicle was used in the Falklands war while no MTBs were available. Therefore on maps where the British forces are meant to be lightly equipped, say a para landing, securing of a Beach Head ext., would it not also be appropriate and very cool to include this vehicle, combined with 101s. Such types of operations would be a great opportunity to include Asymmetrical combat, where the lightly equipped assaulting forces (e.g British paras/marines packing light vehicles/tanks - Scimitar), that have the advantage of being highly mobile, face up against a more heavily equipped force(e.g MEC/PLA packing a few MTBs/APCs) but who are partially boxed in behind defensive positions and therefore less mobile.

This type of Asymmetrical maps would require each team to employ different tactics, just like in the Insurgency game mode. This being the ultimate test of player.

This clearly shows how it is relatively easy to transport the Scimitar, unlike the Warrior and C2 - Scimitar highly suitable for backing up rapid reaction operations.
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/fox3trot/Scim.jpg

This shows the use of the vehicle in the battle for Wireless ridge during the falklands war, backing up the lightly equipted paras.
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/fox3trot/dhm1390.jpg

Outlawz7
2007-10-14, 12:08
Operation Barracuda map? ;)

AfterDune
2007-10-14, 13:31
Sweet awesomeness! This is looking very, VERY good, gentlemen! Keep up the fantastic work! One day, PR will have its own engine! Great work, looking forward to meeting everyone of you on the battlefield! :)

hall0
2007-10-14, 13:31
Nice Update guys :D

para_hjs
2007-10-14, 15:27
Thanks, much appreciated! Good maps = good gameplay.

LDrecce
2007-10-14, 17:22
GREAT JOB BOYS.:-P
Just thought i'd show you what a real Formation Recce Troop looks like in the field; this is B Squadron The Light Dragoons in Afghan this year.
Look at the extre armour and the cage, looks like the Dev's have got it just right.

Englands Northern Cavalry.


http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc255/lennynew_photos/cimg1807h250w400m.jpg
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc255/lennynew_photos/cimg1752h250w400m.jpg
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc255/lennynew_photos/sqnphotos017.jpg
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc255/lennynew_photos/panoramictrooph250w400m.jpg

77SiCaRiO77
2007-10-14, 17:22
The Scimitar is used extensively for reconnaissance therefore would it not be highly appropriate to include this vehicle on maps with MTBs, like Kashan. Where the Scimitar scout outs enemy MTBs, using its speed to flank behind enemy lines, spot, track, thus allowing friendly MTBs to outmaneuver the enemy tanks.



Also, as note, this vehicle was used in the Falklands war while no MTBs were available. Therefore on maps where the British forces are meant to be lightly equipped, say a para landing, securing of a Beach Head ext., would it not also be appropriate and very cool to include this vehicle, combined with 101s. Such types of operations would be a great opportunity to include Asymmetrical combat, where the lightly equipped assaulting forces (e.g British paras/marines packing light vehicles/tanks - Scimitar), that have the advantage of being highly mobile, face up against a more heavily equipped force(e.g MEC/PLA packing a few MTBs/APCs) but who are partially boxed in behind defensive positions and therefore less mobile.

This type of Asymmetrical maps would require each team to employ different tactics, just like in the Insurgency game mode. This being the ultimate test of player.

This clearly shows how it is relatively easy to transport the Scimitar, unlike the Warrior and C2 - Scimitar highly suitable for backing up rapid reaction operations.
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/fox3trot/Scim.jpg

This shows the use of the vehicle in the battle for Wireless ridge during the falklands war, backing up the lightly equipted paras.
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/fox3trot/dhm1390.jpg

psss,devs, listen the man! :)

=XE=Grimm
2007-10-14, 18:38
Hope I will have better luck getting in the servers with 0.7 than I have with 0.613... God I hope...

jayceon515
2007-10-14, 18:54
Any US army vs insurgents insurgency gamemode maps planned for 0.7?

BlackLabel_77
2007-10-14, 19:09
Yesssssssssssssssssssssss !!!
More Urban maps guys, pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase....

RoGuETrOoPeR
2007-10-14, 19:09
Woot at last more British armour, the Challenger 2 looks amazing guys

Sabre_tooth_tigger
2007-10-14, 20:02
I like the camo on the Cavalry pics there, stuff like that does make a difference in game imo

foxxravin
2007-10-14, 20:58
challenger 2 teh loveness

torenico
2007-10-14, 23:04
This shows the use of the vehicle in the battle for Wireless ridge during the falklands war, backing up the lightly equipted paras.
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t108/fox3trot/dhm1390.jpg

damn tank... it killed my friends.. i dont wanna use it

[uBp]Irish
2007-10-15, 03:36
i want to have some dev's babies... that scimitar is.. stunning?

we going to see the challenger on any other maps other than basra?

Renegade Warrior
2007-10-15, 05:18
Great update can't wait to see the Challenger 2 in action

[T]MLPatriot
2007-10-15, 05:38
any updates on the community mods being included in 0.7. U.S Army? CF? Israel? I know about the sub forums, which I visit on a regular basis, but no one seems to know which of the factions actually have a chance of being included in 0.7. I know all community mods have a chance of being later included but any specifics on 0.7?

Teek
2007-10-15, 06:23
Community mods will be included when the lead guy and dev decide there ready.

re: scimitar
http://www.operations.mod.uk/telic/images/ops/cvr_wmik.jpg

Rhino
2007-10-15, 08:17
Irish;508601']i want to have some dev's babies... that scimitar is.. stunning?

we going to see the challenger on any other maps other than basra?

will also feature on qinling :)

@maple_leaf_patriot, the US Army is not a community mod.

Zandr
2007-10-15, 09:19
Yeah, really nice work.
And what about the map you announced earlier in 0,6? Operation Barracuda...
Will it finds own release in future?
Open-space battles in Battlefield series always had key impact.
Also interesting the destiny of such maps: Inishail Forest | Operation Greasy Mullet | Steel Thunder. The great ones. Hope to see them again...

Reddish Red
2007-10-15, 09:35
How Far does the Scimatar fire ingame?

Otherwise: Shiny, Cool and Lovely

Rhino
2007-10-15, 09:36
How Far does the Scimatar fire ingame?

Otherwise: Shiny, Cool and Lovely

it has more or less the same cannon as the warrior in r/l, at the moment thou ingame they act a little diffrent, thou will probaly will change.

Indecisi0n
2007-10-15, 10:30
Is it done yet ? :razz:

zardez
2007-10-15, 13:13
Hey it really looks good, the screenshots are awsome. you guys do good work.

i talk to all i can about PR, some allready tried it, they hate the reality of walking, LOL, they never read how to get in a hummer or how to get a crewkit , so they walk & that kills it for some, LOL.

hmm although jogging is slower you can jog for ages IMO better than bf2 in bf2 a guy can run about 130 meters, not far enough even i can run further than that and these guys are trained soldiers.

G.Drew
2007-10-15, 13:19
Is it done yet ? :razz:

not the brightest thing to say >_<


btw i got a question on the Scimitar, will the cage give the Scimitar improved armour protection as opposed to the basic model or is it there just for decoration?



http://www.operations.mod.uk/telic/images/ops/cvr_wmik.jpg

awwwwww look at the wittle tank!

Rhino
2007-10-15, 13:25
I suggest you read back into this topic for your awnsers drew :p

hx.bjoffe
2007-10-15, 14:03
By 0.7 the brits have a really fine set of vehicles, including this brand new Scimitarm and Challenger as well as introduced Warrior, Saxon and Landrover. Thats 5. On the other end of the scale is MEC, with only a heavy jeep, APC and Tank (not including mobile AA intentionally).
Can we at least have a light jeep for MEC by 1.0, so it is scaled out with PLA?

Btw, it all looks super-sweet. Christmas better come early this year.

G.Drew
2007-10-15, 14:42
Rhino;508792']I suggest you read back into this topic for your awnsers drew :p

omg it was on the first page and everything! :rolleyes::29_slaps:

Dan UK
2007-10-15, 15:31
Cant wait to see what the tornado or eurofighter looks like when we get one.:goodvibes

Rhino
2007-10-15, 15:35
Cant wait to see what the tornado or eurofighter looks like when we get one.:goodvibes

http://www.rhinorage.co.uk/index.php?subaction=showcomments&id=1184075398&archive=&start_from=&ucat=&

Petey
2007-10-15, 17:31
dude!!!! rhino i love u now bro
apache, challenger II, euro fighter??!?!!?!!!
aall on one map that is like a valley?
kiss me rhino lol jm

greenfire07
2007-10-16, 01:06
British this, British that..
dont get me wrong, Great Britain is ok and all but..

WHERE IS MY BELOVED U.S.A??? i want my f22!!
also.. a b-47 stratojet would be the SHIT!!:hissyfit:

AfterDune
2007-10-16, 05:41
British this, British that..
dont get me wrong, Great Britain is ok and all but..

WHERE IS MY BELOVED U.S.A??? i want my f22!!
also.. a b-47 stratojet would be the SHIT!!:hissyfit:
Mister-two-posts, USMC has been in the game since vanilla and the British Army just isn't finished yet. 0.7 will bring more goodies for the Brits, but will also bring you your beloved US Army.

Be patient, son. And stay in school.

Top_Cat_AxJnAt
2007-10-16, 09:08
AfterDune;509369']

Be patient, son. And stay in school.


LOL, an absolute quality line Dune! :-P

ZephyrDraevyn
2007-10-16, 09:13
British this, British that..
dont get me wrong, Great Britain is ok and all but..

British this, British that..... British Devs.... one of the aims of the mod is to bring British troops into BF2....

Bite ye not the hand that feeds thee.

WHERE IS MY BELOVED U.S.A??? i want my f22!!
also.. a b-47 stratojet would be the SHIT!!:hissyfit:

Strategic-level assets for a game who's mapsize can't exceed 17 square km? Behave. As Dune said, be patient.

Rhino
2007-10-16, 09:56
British Devs....

dont kid yourself, only afew of us are brits. We are from all over the globe.

Indecisi0n
2007-10-16, 10:26
not the brightest thing to say >_<

awwwwww look at the wittle tank!

I think you forgot your sense of humor on the battlefield.



omg it was on the first page and everything! :rolleyes::29_slaps:

"not the brightest thing to say "

Zandr
2007-10-16, 11:41
AfterDune;509369']Mister-two-posts, USMC has been in the game since vanilla and the British Army just isn't finished yet. 0.7 will bring more goodies for the Brits, but will also bring you your beloved US Army.

Be patient, son. And stay in school.

So you devs, evaluate the forum members only by the quantity of their posts.
What a shame!
My questions I posted earlier in this thread still unanswered.
And now I know why :?

Rhino
2007-10-16, 11:48
So you devs, evaluate the forum members only by the quantity of their posts.
What a shame!
My questions I posted earlier in this thread still unanswered.
And now I know why :?

AfterDune is not a dev, hes a [R-CON], means he contrbutes something now and then, hes really working towards making some videos for us. [R-DEV] = dev, like me, which mean they develop or help develop the mod....

As for your question on Op Barracuda, yes it should be in v0.7 if all goes well.

AfterDune
2007-10-16, 11:57
So you devs, evaluate the forum members only by the quantity of their posts.
What a shame!
My questions I posted earlier in this thread still unanswered.
And now I know why :?
I didn't mean to offend you in any way. I was trying to make you realize the devs are working on a lot of stuff and sometimes you just have to be patient and wait and see.

My humble apologies if my words offended you, just know I had no bad intentions whatsoever ;).

Zandr
2007-10-16, 14:24
Thanks guys, very appreciate.
You are making hard work, so wishing you the best!!!

Zandr
2007-10-16, 14:28
Rhino;509483']
AfterDune is not a dev, hes a [R-CON], means he contrbutes something now and then, hes really working towards making some videos for us.

Besides, you sad working towards making some videos, so maybe trailer for v0.5 his work? If so, I'm on my knees toward him, It's an masterpiece!

Red Halibut
2007-10-16, 16:27
Honestly!

The devs post a couple of pictures of a BF2 model and everyone starts prostrating themselves? Where is your self-respect? Where are your critical faculties?

Just because they have a ... hang on ... OMG is that a Challenger II!? And a scimitar!?

Brilliant!

>sob< I tried to be indifferent. >sniff< I did so want to act all cool and grown up, but I just can't. It looks so gorgeous.

SuperTimo
2007-10-16, 16:46
so thats where all the devs have been! lol awesome update finally we brits can have some armour!!

Reddish Red
2007-10-16, 18:01
British this, British that..
dont get me wrong, Great Britain is ok and all but..

WHERE IS MY BELOVED U.S.A??? i want my f22!!
also.. a b-47 stratojet would be the SHIT!!:hissyfit:

Has anyone pointed out that B47s were outta date in the 60s...

jayceon515
2007-10-16, 21:31
Last but not least, we figured we'd show you some of the new 0.7 maps. The first, a Muttrah remake, is being built from scratch off local maps and detailed photography. As you can see, the mosque is what you could call a replica. This remake will see more APCs and possibly some new toys to fly around with! Marines, be ready to take the port!
This has been really bugging me since the media update was posted. So my simple question is: Are there going to be cobras on Muttrah city v2?
I just can't wait for 0.7 I'm really looking forward to this map:-P

Outlawz7
2007-10-16, 21:42
Besides, you sad working towards making some videos, so maybe trailer for v0.5 his work? If so, I'm on my knees toward him, It's an masterpiece!

...

0.5 trailer was made by Maistros

Outlawz7
2007-10-16, 21:43
This has been really bugging me since the media update was posted. So my simple question is: Are there going to be cobras on Muttrah city v2?
I just can't wait for 0.7 I'm really looking forward to this map:-P

I hope not, a map like this would be great as infantry combat only (maybe a Humvee or two for Marines to drive around)

asianator365
2007-10-16, 22:31
Awesome!!! Muttrah City and Mao Valley were my favorite maps. I'm glad to see that at least one will be coming back. As an experienced PR pilot, I would like to say the following things that I saw in Muttrah V.1 and what I would like to see in Muttrah V.2
1) Part of the beauty of Muttrah was the excellent opportunity it gave to members of the US team to work together to have a successful aerial assault. It worked well with one problem: too much AA made it impossible to land troops.
2) AA should be limited to one or two on the map, or only be permitted to be placed by the commanders
3) AT rockets should not be as fast as they were. I once saw an entire chopper group (the Blackhawk and 2 littlebirds) go down in about 5 seconds because the MEC AT rockets had little drop and could hit the choppers even when they were being flown full speed over the water, well away from the land.
4)There should be grappling hooks, stairs, and ladders to make access to roof tops easier. This vertical element made the game challenging before, and I think that more of it would make for some excellent play on both sides. This would force the US to drop counter snipers on roof tops, while giving the MEC some good positions to fire from.
5) Limit attack choppers. I think that armed choppers should be limited to the blackhawks and the littlebirds. Adding in the AH-1 or AH-64 could result in an unbalanced map. The only way to counter this would be with AA, and this would make the map hell for transport choppers.

Keep up the good work PR!!! You guys have a great game going here. I actually spend more time playing PR than I do on Vanilla BF2.

zardez
2007-10-17, 07:18
i think we need australian troops, they are UBER LEET and have a cooler flag than most
also they are tough as nails and have good accents

Outlawz7
2007-10-17, 09:21
i think we need australian troops, they are UBER LEET and have a cooler flag than most
also they are tough as nails and have good accents

Go make them then

Dunehunter
2007-10-17, 09:47
Zardez, we have community mods for those. If you really want an Australian mod, get some people together, get organised, and get crackin'.

dyson20
2007-10-17, 15:29
looks amazing one thing when will it be released do you think:):)

AfterDune
2007-10-17, 15:52
.....when it's ready :lol:

G.Drew
2007-10-17, 17:02
AfterDune;510214'].....when it's ready :lol:

we should make that a smiliey: 'When its ready :rolleyes:'

dyson20
2007-10-17, 18:02
never lol

SNIPERxWOLFxGB
2007-10-17, 19:37
Go make them then

:D:D

<1sk>Headshot
2007-10-17, 20:32
Thanks for the update, it's what keeps us keen :]

I know it gets said every release but 0.7 looks like its going to be absolutely amazing.

Freelance_Commando
2007-10-18, 08:51
Looks awsome guys, keep up the good work.

What I want to know though is will we be able to download a patch to update 0.61 to 0.7 instead of downloading the massive (I belive it's going to be massive) file all over again?

Rhino
2007-10-18, 09:57
most likely a full install so that we dont run into any problems made by the patching programs.

There is so much new stuff / modified stuff every release there is very little that is unchanged so its also not worth it.

M4nicMin3r
2007-10-18, 13:26
Looks awsome guys, keep up the good work.

What I want to know though is will we be able to download a patch to update 0.61 to 0.7 instead of downloading the massive (I belive it's going to be massive) file all over again?

Downloading a big file isnt such a problem if its via torrents.., that way you get to recheck hash fails etc. I'd prefer a large download and a fresh reinstall of a new version to a patch anyday.

Just a bit frustrating when you know theres so much new content and you want it now!. :D

Golden7B
2007-10-18, 17:07
SSSSSSSWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!

Threedroogs
2007-10-18, 19:10
looking good!

i just upgraded my rig in anticipation of .7 (and to get better performance on a few .61 maps). i dropped two more gigs of RAM in (giving me 4 total) and put in a second geforce 7600GT. with those changes, i am running PR with high settings with no slowdown (not to mention call of duty 4 and unreal tournament 3 in high).

guys...if you're thinking about getting more RAM or a second video card, do it now! the performance increase was huge.

Morgan
2007-10-18, 20:59
Okay now im gonna need a new keyboard from the drooling. Good job devs can't wait for the Challenger!! Also will the US Army M4 have assault rifle characteristics or will you leave it as a carbine so it is nigh on impossible to kill people long range with it?

echo
2007-10-19, 02:54
Nice update! :grin::grin::grin:

Outlawz7
2007-10-19, 04:18
Okay now im gonna need a new keyboard from the drooling. Good job devs can't wait for the Challenger!! Also will the US Army M4 have assault rifle characteristics or will you leave it as a carbine so it is nigh on impossible to kill people long range with it?

US Army will have M4's not M4A1's, so their effective range should be longer

Freelance_Commando
2007-10-20, 09:23
Do we have any vague ideas on when the 0.7 patch might be relased? 2008ish?

Z-trooper
2007-10-20, 10:39
Looks pretty damn nice. Challanger II - yes sir, new wood map - yiipee.

I just found out about the xfire clan now, and when I applied to join it said that the clan was full :/ let me know when a spots clears up so I can get hold of all the people here :D

UA.Killerclays
2007-10-20, 20:22
Look very awesome. I'm one of the many who cant wait.....

laikiunreal
2007-10-21, 21:37
yeap more toys more accion..woop! those Scimitar here in Venezuela are called Scorpions the main diference between them are that the scorpion have on the turret a 76 mm cannon and the scimitar a 30 mm cannon both are for reconnaissance, the Challenger 2 looks impresive and muttrah map seems to be awesome and fools road looks like a pretty big map, i cant wait to see them in accion :) i love this mod

Mongolian_dude
2007-10-21, 22:37
here in Venezuela are called Scorpions

Ya sure you just don't mean the British FV scorpion? ;-)

...mongol...

MellonPopper
2007-10-22, 12:18
Please, Please make it so the commander can relieve a squad leader of duty for not following orders. It is so frustrating having a squad leader go mustang and disobey orders. They can not see the whole picture and have their own agenda and should be replaceable. Anyone agree????

Morgan
2007-10-22, 12:36
US Army will have M4's not M4A1's, so their effective range should be longer

Cheers Outlawz but what is the difference between the M4 and the M4A1. I just thought the A1 had full auto?

Biggaayal
2007-10-22, 16:48
Please, Please make it so the commander can relieve a squad leader of duty for not following orders. It is so frustrating having a squad leader go mustang and disobey orders. They can not see the whole picture and have their own agenda and should be replaceable. Anyone agree????

I've wanted some power like this for the commander for a loooong time. If they disobey orders, they should be shot.

Sabre_tooth_tigger
2007-10-22, 18:24
That'd change the game quite a bit but I dont think the devs could program anything like that.
Sometimes admin will kick people who disobey orders, depends on the server.
Yo al :)

Specifications
2007-10-22, 19:34
Hotness! All i can say. I LOVE YOU PR MAKERS! [no homo] ;]

theit57
2007-10-24, 01:47
When's this gonna be released?

AfterDune
2007-10-24, 05:29
http://www.smileyfacesigns.com/images/smiley.php?button=rolleyes&text=...when+it's+ready...

Rhino
2007-10-24, 16:58
ohhhh, we also need a hard coded smiley :D

agent
2007-10-24, 17:26
Awesome!!! Muttrah City and Mao Valley were my favorite maps....
3) AT rockets should not be as fast as they were... chopper group (the Blackhawk and 2 littlebirds) go down in about 5 seconds because the MEC AT rockets had little drop and could hit the choppers even when they were being flown full speed over the water...
4)...grappling hooks, stairs, and ladders to make access to roof tops easier. This vertical element made the game challenging before, and I think that more of it would make for some excellent play on both sides...

3) ROCKETS are faster than helo's in RL...

totally agree with 4)... more accessible buildings and ladders, more breach able doors to reach objectives, search and destroy yes! tazers against civies
that is all. delete this post if it's not appropriate or something
THIS IS THE BEST MOD PERIOD

arthuro12
2007-10-24, 17:40
3) ROCKETS are faster than helo's in RL...

totally agree with 4)... more accessible buildings and ladders, more breach able doors to reach objectives, search and destroy yes! tazers against civies
that is all. delete this post if it's not appropriate or something
THIS IS THE BEST MOD PERIOD


they should add a new class on something like Basrah called MP lol... nightsticks ftw :D

duduzao
2007-10-24, 22:45
Guys this is amazinhg, this game change my life.
Thanks PRMM
Eduardo (Brazil)

RHYS4190
2007-10-26, 16:16
Don't care about any thing else but getting that much needed improved M16.
And + im all for getting rid of the M16 alltogether and replacing them with the M14 now that gun get results.

KP
2007-10-26, 18:14
Rhino;515123']ohhhh, we also need a hard coded smiley :D
We have one: :cussing:

laikiunreal
2007-10-27, 03:43
Mongolian_dude;513264']Ya sure you just don't mean the British FV scorpion? ;-)

...mongol...

exactly we have those scorpions...sorry for reply so late i have been working and i only have time on weekends..i have some pictures of our scorpions here (they are not new but i think they still work):

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/8150/evscoprion900592ch2dn1.jpg

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/6016/evscorpion90fp0592chzn6.jpg

http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/8945/evscorpion90chzo3.jpg

***COMMANDER***
2007-10-27, 16:22
Please tell me we have more A 10's..... As of right now, our v0.6 only 1 64 player attack helo map (daqing oilfields) and Kashan Desert for Aircraft.

More attack helos would be nice as well.

I would really like to see more Aircraft support....

We like to put an Attack marker on the enemy tanks or infantry and smoke them.

In v0.5, we called in so much air support with the guys on the ground and the A 10, rolled in and engaged the attack here marker that a Squad Leader zoomed in and set and it was just great....

We truly hope that we have more missions like this.

You guys are doing a Great job.

Indecisi0n
2007-10-27, 16:26
Im like a fat kid in a candy store who can't touch anything !!!!!

i wanna play !!!! :mrgreen:

WNxLT7
2007-10-27, 18:44
If the brits are getting the scimitar does that mean the us will be getting the m2a2 bradley? >.>

Rhino
2007-10-27, 18:50
If the brits are getting the scimitar does that mean the us will be getting the m2a2 bradley? >.>

if we where going to consider making another recon vehicle from scratch then it would most likley be for a team 1 team, like MEC, china etc so it can be used in symmetrical maps. Also off the top of my head I think the M2A2 is more of a APC? not sure.

WNxLT7
2007-10-27, 19:09
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M2/M3_Bradley_Fighting_Vehicle
Thought the scimitar was going to be just another APC. My bad. Thats why I suggested the M2. If it were to be just a scout vehicle then the M3 would be a better candidate seeing as how it has a crew of 3 with 2 scouts as opposed to the M2 which carries 6 soldiers with the 3 crew members. And the M3 also has better communication equipment than the M2.

darkNight
2007-10-28, 11:38
I'm new to this forums but ive been playing PR since months ;)

This mod really rocks! It's the best mod for BF2 ever! Just love it :mrgreen:

I'm especially looking forward to PR v0.7! Maybe i didn't get it but when it's going to be released? In further versions of PR i was always playing Muttrah City and all that stuff that was taken out in the currently version. Too bad, because that were the best maps ever! Loved to be pilot in Muttrah.. hehe :D

AfterDune
2007-10-28, 12:30
http://www.smileyfacesigns.com/images/smiley.php?button=must&text=It+will+be+released+when+it's+done

And Muttrah v2 is coming, you're gonna love that ;).

darkNight
2007-10-28, 15:32
AfterDune;517944']http://www.smileyfacesigns.com/images/smiley.php?button=must&text=It+will+be+released+when+it's+done

And Muttrah v2 is coming, you're gonna love that ;).

Great! http://hx3.de/images/smilies/hx3_whoohoo.gif Can't wait for the release :mrgreen:

Will there be an Extraction Mission, too?
It's not really important but why not.
Many people would love it, me too :D

Indecisi0n
2007-10-28, 15:38
This should have been relesed like yesterday, SPEED IT UP ....... please :mrgreen:

Rhino
2007-10-28, 15:49
This should have been relesed like yesterday, SPEED IT UP ....... please :mrgreen:

why dont you learn how to mod, then help us speed it up?

Indecisi0n
2007-10-28, 18:02
Rhino;518131']why dont you learn how to mod, then help us speed it up?

I know.

Can i use M$ paint as my builder ? I got crazy skills with the spray can! :mrgreen:

Pvt.godinez
2007-10-29, 04:19
is the javelin going to be in 0.7? *crosses fingers*

Rhino
2007-10-29, 04:20
is the javelin going to be in 0.7? *crosses fingers*

no plans to put it in at the moment sorry, far too powerful in its current form.

Sabre_tooth_tigger
2007-10-29, 13:42
Quote:
Originally Posted by laikiunreal View Post
here in Venezuela are called Scorpions

Mongolian_dude;513264']Ya sure you just don't mean the British FV scorpion? ;-)

...mongol...

One has 30mm gun and the venezuela one is 76mm apparently, nice :D

joey_deacs
2007-10-29, 13:57
Rhino;507064']Its a RPG cage, in r/l its there to stop RPGs hitting the amour, there is a large chance if they hit the cage that they will just get stuck in it, and wont explode or if they do explode, they will explode on the cage and not the main amour :)

Thats how I understand it works thou, but better ask one of the MIs for all the info :)

We hope to make it so it gives more protection aginst RPGs ingame also :)

BOB on your right thats how it works for real not sure if they plan on making it a real thing in game ??

anyone know?

Undies
2007-10-29, 17:49
Yeah Scorpion. It was an export success and several places still use it including New Zealand as well. The only place the British still use it is Canada as the Opfor fleet and renamed Salamander. It was taken from service IIRC because of the toxicity hazard within the turret when firing the gun.

Darkpowder
2007-10-29, 22:37
Here's hoping they put your regiment "insignia" (or was it motif) on the Challengers mate, and that the crewman kits have nice red trousers too :P

lion551
2007-10-30, 06:26
loooookkking great keep up the good work! "crossing fingers for US vs insurgents Basarah" :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Sabre_tooth_tigger
2007-10-30, 06:39
look up pr_sp if you want to play usa in basra, I think its still on 0.5 or at least you should be able to get that version still

Outlawz7
2007-10-31, 00:11
loooookkking great keep up the good work! "crossing fingers for US vs insurgents Basarah" :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

British are staying in Basrah, but we'll hopefully get a new USMC/US Army vs. Insurgents map in .7

RHYS4190
2007-10-31, 11:21
Well all of you thought it was funny replacing the M16 with the M14 Lol... I just got frustrated with the gun after another round of being stuck on the American team and getting massacred along with the US team so I wrote that rant. Any way I hope the new M16 comes out soon. Because the M16 in this mod kills almost all the fun of the game IV gotten so sick of it IV stopped playing PR and is waiting for the new patch and the improvement. So right now im got nothing realy to do but then again bordom it better then playing as the American faction.

H1satsu
2007-10-31, 17:54
Is there going to be mortars like on POE that would be cooool.:D

OkitaMakoto
2007-10-31, 21:08
Because the M16 in this mod kills almost all the fun of the game IV gotten so sick of it IV stopped playing PR and is waiting for the new patch and the improvement. So right now im got nothing realy to do but then again bordom it better then playing as the American faction.

Wow, no offense, but that really seems like a silly reason not to play. Use the gun as best you can, or request the SAW and play a different role altogether.

Besides... you can always m4 whore it up ;)

*ewww*

RHYS4190
2007-11-01, 05:16
No the reson iv stopped playing is because i dont want to get frustrated by getting owned 99% when playing USMC. Theres at least 5 maps that dont have the USMC that the only ones that are fare the rest give an un exeptable advantage to one team.

Rhino
2007-11-01, 05:19
No the reson iv stopped playing is because i dont want to get frustrated by getting owned 99% when playing USMC. Theres at least 5 maps that dont have the USMC that the only ones that are fare the rest are not. So no my resons are a very good reson not to play.

dont play the maps you dont like? aint hard, you only connect to servers with maps you like, and disconnect if they change to a map you dont like, then connect to another server with a map you like? :roll:

OkitaMakoto
2007-11-01, 05:22
Theres also battlearena, a 24/7 Basrah (or does it include more than that? all insurgency? idk)

anyway, yeah, everytime i join it, its Brits Verses Insurgents, Al Basrah. Play that. ;)

Not a US Marine in sight

RHYS4190
2007-11-01, 05:34
M16 is bull shit i dont want to know about this mod untill it fixed >: (.

OkitaMakoto
2007-11-01, 05:36
Easy. You're heading down the path that no one wants to travel...

Rhino
2007-11-01, 05:36
M16 is bull shit i dont want to know about this mod untill it fixed >: (.

ok..... :roll:

Ironcomatose
2007-11-01, 05:57
Rhino;520815']ok..... :roll:

LOL this guys is obviously the l337.

Outlawz7
2007-11-01, 16:54
M16 is bull shit i dont want to know about this mod untill it fixed >: (.

I LOL'd.

Don't play USMC then

Reddish Red
2007-11-01, 18:00
as i always say: Its the user not the tool

Sabre_tooth_tigger
2007-11-01, 18:10
Its bit crappy on burst fire but single shot is fine. I dont like it either

Support gun is always available, get one of those

RHYS4190
2007-11-02, 04:28
as i always say: Its the user not the tool
What are you talking about of course it a tool in this circumstance.


Enough I can only take so much stupid bull shit comments before I start killing people. And you all should think about your comments one of you sayed "don’t play USMC then" how the hell is you supposed to do that when mostly all maps are USMC maps hmmm?. So ill see you lot in 0.7 or ill forget and il never see you again. Ether is good :P .

Rhino
2007-11-02, 04:46
And you all should think about your comments one of you sayed "don’t play USMC then" how the hell is you supposed to do that when mostly all maps are USMC maps hmmm?. So ill see you lot in 0.7 or ill forget and il never see you again. Ether is good :P .

maybe you should think about your comments cos in fact only 1/2 of the maps have the USMC on them, + I have already gave you a very easy solution on how not to play maps with the USMC on them.

RHYS4190
2007-11-02, 06:37
This is stupid let stop this stupid fighting. ILL try and just play on the non US maps but it difficult. Any way good luck with fixing the M16 up.

Ninja2dan
2007-11-02, 09:59
I don't see any problem with the M16 in this mod. The sights are pretty accurate compared to the real thing, burst rate is pretty much right on, and the appearance is just fine.

An M16 will only be accurate out to around 300m, and even at that range it takes skill and practice to hit a target that is stationary. I am a marksman and even I have trouble sometimes hitting a moving target past 250m, and in this game I do pretty well with the M16.

Burst mode will suck at range. The purpose of burst is for providing suppressive or covering fire, and for MOUT combat where close-range fighting occurs and loss of accuracy from burst is minimal. I prefer to get 30 squeezes off than 10 or so anyways.

And I am a former US Army soldier, US Infantry Weapons Expert, and certified armorsmith. I know the M16 as well as anyone else on this forum, and I can say I see no issues with the M16 in game that would prevent myself or anyone wanting to use it over any other base-kit battle rifle.

When you get old enough to handle one of these in real life, and can actually compare it to the ingame version, then I might listen to your complaints with interest. As of now, I see a kid complaining about a weapon in a game because he doesn't know how to use it properly.

Rhino
2007-11-02, 10:44
@Ninja2dan, hes comparing it too gameplay, not realism :p

Outlawz7
2007-11-02, 11:55
Yes, the M16 should have a 1337 scope and stopping power of a .50 cal + 1 337 rounds of ammo.

:roll:

RHYS4190
2007-11-02, 11:55
When you get old enough to handle one of these in real life, and can actually compare it to the ingame version, then I might listen to your complaints with interest. As of now, I see a kid complaining about a weapon in a game because he doesn't know how to use it properly.

Im not a kid im a writer read this




Why does my country have an alliance with yours we should be fighting to death and are solders running trough your streets burning your homes to the ground. And we shall. ON that day I will come through your door old man with the blood of your countrymen neighbors wives children streaming from my lips down my tabard, on that day you will die.] Pretty good :) ya : D.[

Any way it not the realism of PR M16 it the hit registration that got me ticked and it poor sights.

RHYS4190
2007-11-02, 11:57
Yes, the M16 should have a 1337 scope and stopping power of a .50 cal + 1 337 rounds of ammo.

:roll:

No it should have good hit reg and sights piggy

Outlawz7
2007-11-02, 12:00
It's a 5.56, what did you expect? Enemy being throw up against a wall when shot by one of these?

zeidmaan
2007-11-02, 12:02
When we are on the subject of M16, is there any chance we can get a screen shot of what the optics will look like on scoped versions. Not the model on the gun, but how will it look like when you look through the scope.

RHYS4190
2007-11-02, 12:19
it a coding error or a bug or same thing/ but the M16 round is a nasty one it fragnats inside the body VERY insidious.

dbzao
2007-11-02, 12:26
Ok, enough with this. Always the M16... :roll:

UK_Force
2007-11-02, 18:37
it a coding error or a bug or same thing/ but the M16 round is a nasty one it fragnats inside the body VERY insidious.

The M16 round is whatever you choose to put in your magazine (not that you get a choice) - end of story !!

And the round you are talking about is not within the ethos of the geneva convention ;-)



.

OkitaMakoto
2007-11-02, 18:40
Why does my country have an alliance with yours? We should be fighting to the death and our solders running through your streets burning your homes to the ground. And we shall. On that day I will come through your door, old man, with the blood of your countrymen, neighbors, wives optional comma(,) and children streaming from my lips down my tabard. On that day, you will die.

Any way it not the realism of PR M16 it the hit registration that got me ticked and it poor sights.

Hope you didn't send it off to the publisher yet...

I like the m16. More accurate at higher ROF at the "cost" of less stopping power (than G3, etc)

Masaq
2007-11-06, 19:28
OkitaMakoto;522063']Hope you didn't send it off to the publisher yet...

I like the m16. More accurate at higher ROF at the "cost" of less stopping power (than G3, etc)

If you're a poor shot (and many PR players are, if we're being honest) then having that extra power- and the full auto - helps immensely.




Also - if I see any more posts that mention people getting thrown about by bullets, I'm going to cry. Does no-one remember Newton's Third Law? :p

OkitaMakoto
2007-11-06, 19:45
Im a good enough shot with the rifle, and I like how the m16 handles just a bit better than the higher powered G3s. Although, Id much rather take them down in less shots from the G3, Im not gonna bash the m16 because its weaker but easier to handle... (once given new sights, even more so :))

dbzao
2007-11-06, 19:48
Guys, this thread was closed. Enough.