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TF6049
2007-07-06, 21:10
Airborne Tankbuster.

I was on the TG server in Jabal when I got H-AT as USMC and decided to have someone fly me in a blackhawk (in this case, CP20000) and I would AT from above. The first time I had successfully tried this in BF (always wanted to). Really fun, but not that accurate. And to CP, good flying!

Swe_Olsson
2007-07-06, 21:22
the blackhawks are to heavy, to big for this kind of missions, use a littlebird instead plus there's alot of AA guns on that map " note to my self, theres no littlebird on jabal " :(

Dunehunter
2007-07-06, 21:32
I've done this in a LB before, works pretty well if you can get straight overhead, but sadly enough, you're often really vulnerable :(

And you use up a whole LB for just one purpose, which the rest of the team won't appreciate, though you could try on the MEC chopter on that oilfields map maybe?

Cp
2007-07-06, 21:51
Hehe. Thanks TF6049.
We didnt "waste" an asset, we were about to cap the MEC main base and no one was using the blackhawks so we had some fun :p

The blackhawk is better for this than the LB because it resupplys ammo 8-)

Battlepudel
2007-07-06, 21:51
Tried that also once and just got shot down by the Tank.


You need a veeery good pilot to do that and you haveo shoot perfectly two times or until you habĀ“ve reloaded at mainbase or somewhere else the tank is "up up and away" again.

Skullening.Chris
2007-07-06, 22:39
This is reality mod. For some reason, I can't imagine this ever being attempted in the history of mankind in reality. Plz dun do it.

-=TB=-Tobakfromcuba
2007-07-06, 22:47
im not sending (reason somone could become jealous) a vid as i hit a tank from the backseat of a mec transport chopper. it was many hundrets meters away and the single missile hit he top and blew the whole m1. was pure nice to watch
btw yeah ok youre right@ skullening chris

Teek
2007-07-07, 00:33
Tobak, thats a silly reason to not post a video!
This is reality mod. For some reason, I can't imagine this ever being attempted in the history of mankind in reality. Plz dun do it.
well, this is similar: In Veitnam,Some Hueys were fitted with wooden chutes outside the doors to allow flight crew to drop mortar rounds on enemy positions, with aircrew simply yanking the bottom doors of the chutes open with wires to drop the loads. This "Mortar Aerial Delivery (MAD)" scheme was reportedly very effective in jungle fighting.

dont forget heli-TOW launchers, we dont have any of thous.

eddie
2007-07-07, 00:38
It's been done countless times by me and Stal on Basrah using the Merlin. Oh, but transport is flying death.... for the enemy:D

Gyberg
2007-07-07, 01:07
We did it on OGT in the tournament.... mobile arty!

ArmedDrunk&Angry
2007-07-07, 10:51
Ummmm you forget one the most important facets of the H-AT.
The tone lock.
If you lock up a tank from a helo, he is freaking out trying to find the H=At gunner on a horizon and is not paying attention to the ground.
Ergo, cognito ....BOOM!

Dunehunter
2007-07-07, 13:27
Don't you mean cogito? And that actually is a good trick to make them freak out :p

Bonsai
2007-07-07, 13:47
We did it on OGT in the tournament.... mobile arty!

I`ve seen that...:lol:

Masaq
2007-07-07, 18:39
I've done it a few times - from the LB is best, as you're safe from hostile SAMs, if not AAA.

You need a good pilot and voice coms- trick is to fly really nice and high so your'e above coax/mounted MG aimpoint, and then get the pilot to level off and hover briefly while you let loose.

As soon as you've fired, start moving off again and let the pilot know when you're reloaded. Two shots then RTB for resupplies - it works well.

For those who say it's probably never been done IRL, I put it to you that no-where is humankind as ingenious and willing to innovate as in warfare. Sure, it's a gamey, low-down tactic and one that'll probably make you deeply unpopular. It's also a fairly intensive used of resources- a chopper and HAT (or even HAT and LAT together) is a lot to devote to aerial tank-busting- but hell, it's rarely used, hardly a massive problem on the servers and immensely good fun!

eddie
2007-07-07, 19:01
The Merlin works just as well. The troops aren't exposed to AAA fire as much and the helicopter is very maneuverable. The Merlin can also take about 3 RPG hits. Reminds me of an excellent time on Basrah when I was hit by an RPG, saw him, flew over to him and hovered by him. Tsk.

Leo
2007-07-07, 19:24
Something fun we did while waiting for everyone to get to practice (or filming, forgot which) in 0.5 Basrah was to have a spec ops on the side of a chopper and have a Humvee driver around randomly inside the airport, get low enough with the LB, drop a slam in the Humvee's flat bed and fly away. Sort of the same idea and lots of fun if you're with friends in a non-pub or empty server.

eddie
2007-07-07, 19:27
Heh, done that too:p Had the Merlin fly around and then when someone spotted an ammo cache, lower the chopper, chuck a SLAM or two on it. Damn I love creativity. Although I can't see many spec-ops tossing out a few explosive devices from helicopters in Iraq:p

Dunehunter
2007-07-07, 21:06
Probably because they're too busy strapping each other to Cobras and Apaches ;)

Always remember kids, nothing is weirder than reality!

Wasteland
2007-07-07, 22:03
Hehehe, I'm pretty sure this is specifically stated as against TG rules.

We did it on OGT in the tournament.... mobile arty!

And I'm also pretty sure that *that* was against tourney rules for that map...

Masaq
2007-07-08, 02:32
Frankly, I can't see why anyone - Tourny, Pub server or Clan server - should see the need to impose bogus rules like that.

If someone shoots at you, you shoot back.
If someone shoots a tank at you, you either get in your own tank or grab the HAT.
If someone shoots a jet at you, you either get in a jet or grab the AAV or AA kit.

So why is it when people are confronted with new and different tactics, they don't come up with a decent solution?

I mean, if there's a Merlin with two HAT and some Spec Ops buzzing around killing Insurgency vehicles and dropping SLAMS onto ammo caches, it seems to be that the logical response is as follows:

1. Station an AA trooper on a high rooftop with a source of ammo nearby
2. Station Tacticals in a loose formation in the surrounding area
3. Wait for the Merlin to fly overhead and then wrack up a whole bunch of kills for 5 minutes co-ordinated work.

Likewise with Littlebirds/Other small Helos manned with HAT/LAT kits - all it takes is a few well-placed machineguns and you've got them bang to rights.

It's the same mentality you see on Kashan- players moaning "This map sucks with Jets/Choppers (delete as inappropriate) whilst their teams AA kits are still safely with the Quartermaster and both Anti-Air vehicles are parked back at main base.

*Every* tactic in the game you can think of, there's a decent counter for. If the other side is loading 6 guys into a transport chopper and using it as a gunship, all power to 'em! It just proves the other side aren't working together as a team- because with a little work and some co-ordination, they'd have the buggers down within 10 minutes. Kill the chopper and its crew two or three times, they'll stop doing it.

daranz
2007-07-08, 02:43
Well, the mod isn't called Project Lets-see-what-crazy-stunt-that-would-get-us-killed-in-real-life-we-can-pull-off...

eddie
2007-07-08, 02:44
No, but at the same time it is a video game:o

Outlawz7
2007-07-08, 03:44
Masaq']
*Every* tactic in the game you can think of, there's a decent counter for. If the other side is loading 6 guys into a transport chopper and using it as a gunship, all power to 'em! It just proves the other side aren't working together as a team- because with a little work and some co-ordination, they'd have the buggers down within 10 minutes. Kill the chopper and its crew two or three times, they'll stop doing it.

Reminds me of 0.5 Basrah, where every time, that USMC came to Facility, they parked the tank facing the north gate, and we destroyed it with C4 by jumping over the wall or actually waiting in the corner for the tank to park there and they constanly came back on that same spot and the tanker had no idea, where we are and they still kept camping there, altough they got destroyed every time :roll:

El_Vikingo
2007-07-08, 05:46
We've been doing this for a long time.

There's already a thread on this.

eddie
2007-07-08, 05:48
Christ Vikingo, give it a rest.

Skullening.Chris
2007-07-08, 05:52
Either way, lame tactic that shouldn't be used in a REALITY mod.
Just 'cause you CAN doesn't mean you SHOULD...

eddie
2007-07-08, 05:52
If you could do it and get away with it irl, would you?

Skullening.Chris
2007-07-08, 05:53
No, because in real life, the backblast would take out everyone in the helo...

eddie
2007-07-08, 05:54
If you could do it irl and get away with it, would you do it?

El_Vikingo
2007-07-08, 05:54
what if you dropped the rocket? A la WWI bomber planes?

eddie
2007-07-08, 05:56
What if you got a box of WP grenades, pulled the string and through them in the cockpit?

El_Vikingo
2007-07-08, 05:59
WP?

Strings?

The only strings I can thikn of are the potato mashers.

eddie
2007-07-08, 06:03
I mean attached to all the pin, so when you pull the string all of the pins release.

What would happen if you threw paint out of the helicopter?

daranz
2007-07-08, 13:39
What if you mounted stub wings with weapon hardpoints and then attached a bunch of Hellfires?

eddie
2007-07-08, 14:32
Hellfires? Nah, CVRs.

AppleJuice4u2
2007-07-08, 17:10
This is reality mod. For some reason, I can't imagine this ever being attempted in the history of mankind in reality. Plz dun do it.

I hope thats sarcasm

Masaq
2007-07-08, 21:12
Well since you can launch stingers, hellfires and TOWs from an H-6, I see no reason why a well-strapped on chappy on one of the skids wouldn't be able to launch a shoulder-launched missile of some kind, so long as the tailpipe was pointed along the chopper's fore-aft axis rather than pointing towards the bird itself :P

TF6049
2007-07-19, 21:37
Hehe. Thanks TF6049.
We didnt "waste" an asset, we were about to cap the MEC main base and no one was using the blackhawks so we had some fun :p

The blackhawk is better for this than the LB because it resupplys ammo 8-)

Until I ran out. :-( It's not a factory, just has a limited ammobox.

TF6049
2007-07-19, 21:42
Something fun we did while waiting for everyone to get to practice (or filming, forgot which) in 0.5 Basrah was to have a spec ops on the side of a chopper and have a Humvee driver around randomly inside the airport, get low enough with the LB, drop a slam in the Humvee's flat bed and fly away. Sort of the same idea and lots of fun if you're with friends in a non-pub or empty server.

Lol.