PDA

View Full Version : v1.0 Mk.19 Rover Gun Platform


Pronck
2013-08-23, 11:01
I really like the new Mk.19 Rover acting as a good gun platform. It is a great offensive and defensive tool that you can use as firesupport. The exposed gunner makes it not OP.

There is one thing though that bothers me, it's the way you aim. Now you need to guess the distance and the arc, what I was thinking of (Suggestion warning) was implementing a system like on the 40mm grenade launcher where you could simply change the sights to the matching distance (50mtrs, 100 mtrs, 150mtrs). This so you could aim better.

GlaDi
2013-08-23, 11:18
Yea, please add adjustable sights juat like in RPG's.

Chuc
2013-08-23, 11:33
Thanks for the feedback, but unfortunately it's not possible with our current knowledge to implement such a system with stationary or mounted weapons.

Stemplus
2013-08-23, 12:01
Then what about giving it an alternative camera where the markings actually fit the drop?

GlaDi
2013-08-23, 12:14
Chuc;1940464']it's not possible with our current knowledge to implement such a system with stationary or mounted weapons.

SAD FACE

http://7bmsr.com/wp-content/uploads/%D8%B5%D9%88%D8%B1-%D8%AD%D8%A87046.jpg

tankninja1
2013-08-23, 12:43
Would it be possible to make the grenade explosion more visible at long ranges?

Rudd
2013-08-23, 13:00
Would it be possible to make the grenade explosion more visible at long ranges?

there's problems in doing that, what you need for long range fire is a spotter using binocs

=]H[=TangFiend
2013-08-23, 20:39
Looks like somebody beat me to making the thread. It's hard to use when the viewpoint is straight down the sight to shoot a parabolic grenade. You kind of have to fire then pull the gun down to see where the splash is. It throws your aim all off when you go to adjust on your subsequent rounds.



Even if the view could just be up higher looking over the weapon instead of straight down the sight it would be a lot more user friendly.

Rabbit
2013-08-23, 20:52
It seems the sights are lined up for 150. I wouldn't mind seeing it zeroed for something more like 400-600 meters, then you can just lower the mk 19 for closer targets and still be able to see them.

40mmrain
2013-08-23, 21:22
The Mk19 up armoured humvee is a monster, I adore the thing. Haven't got to try the Mk19 stryker yet, sadly.

Stemplus
2013-08-24, 17:08
I've tried the stryker and trust me, it's like a handicapped AAVP. It's pretty much like using the harrier like a helicopter and dropping bombs from VTOL flight - slow, easy to kill, in-accurate and loud.

Murphy
2013-08-24, 18:13
Mk19 Hmv is really powerful, it's like a stealthy APC/IFV with infantry being a lot more dedicated to protecting it (as it is their transport vehicle at the same time as an insanely OP weapon platform). I feel the Mk19 HMV being uparmored is overkill, the Opfor factions that are up against this vehicle usually lack the tools needed to deal with it. Make the gunner more exposed, or preferably just throw it onto a standard HMV to make it a little less OP.

Eddie Baker
2013-08-24, 19:31
Mk19 Hmv is really powerful, it's like a stealthy APC/IFV with infantry being a lot more dedicated to protecting it (as it is their transport vehicle at the same time as an insanely OP weapon platform). I feel the Mk19 HMV being uparmored is overkill, the Opfor factions that are up against this vehicle usually lack the tools needed to deal with it. Make the gunner more exposed, or preferably just throw it onto a standard HMV to make it a little less OP.

You want it to be gimped because people are protecting their transport and fire support assets exactly the way they should be? :roll:

It has 48 ready rounds tops, unrealistic deviation like a Parkinson's victim is holding it up on his shoulders and an exposed gunner. What tools do you need other than a LAW and rifles or machine-guns at a higher angle to deal with it?

Rhino
2013-08-24, 19:50
unrealistic deviation like a Parkinson's victim is holding it up on his shoulders

iirc Rivers has fixed that now?

Eddie Baker
2013-08-24, 20:02
Rhino;1941028']iirc Rivers has fixed that now?

Hopefully. But it still doesn't justify whining about a vehicle with an exposed gunner and 48 rounds, unless you guys did 32. :razz:

Rhino
2013-08-24, 20:13
Hopefully. But it still doesn't justify whining about a vehicle with an exposed gunner and 48 rounds, unless you guys did 32. :razz:

I didn't say it did hehe :p

40mmrain
2013-08-24, 20:17
I've tried the stryker and trust me, it's like a handicapped AAVP. It's pretty much like using the harrier like a helicopter and dropping bombs from VTOL flight - slow, easy to kill, in-accurate and loud.

except the stryker has better armour, is faster, and has better gun depression than the AAVP

Murphy
2013-08-24, 20:40
You want it to be gimped because people are protecting their transport and fire support assets exactly the way they should be? :roll:

It has 48 ready rounds tops, unrealistic deviation like a Parkinson's victim is holding it up on his shoulders and an exposed gunner. What tools do you need other than a LAW and rifles or machine-guns at a higher angle to deal with it?

If you actually played the game you would know what I'm on about.

TheShaydeeOne
2013-08-24, 21:50
As you have like 1 for AP, 2 for HEAT, etc in heavy armoured vehicles could you do the same for the 40mm on the smaller things? Set one through five as slightly different camera angles for different ranges? Or is the engine too restrictive in allowing such a thing?

Pronck
2013-08-24, 22:22
Guys, remember to talk about the Rover Mk.19 here and not about the Humvee Mk.19 .

Mikemonster
2013-08-27, 17:01
http://www.wonderlandmodels.com/media/managed/large/82449.jpg

Pew pew, pew pew pew..

Hang on, Left hand drive?

Rudd
2013-08-27, 18:03
When you fight in a world that is mostly on the incorrect side of the road, we have to sometimes suffer;(

Rhino
2013-08-27, 20:15
Rudd;1942222']When you fight in a world that is mostly on the incorrect side of the road, we have to sometimes suffer;(

I think that painting is just wrong:
http://discovermilitary.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/LAND_Land_Rover_WMIK_lg.jpg

Rudd
2013-08-27, 20:20
I'm pretty sure they can and did swap the side the driver is on for Iraq

Eddie Baker
2013-08-27, 20:31
http://www.wonderlandmodels.com/media/managed/large/82449.jpg

Pew pew, pew pew pew..

Hang on, Left hand drive?

Rhino;1942271']I think that painting is just wrong:

That's an RSOV Land Rover; not UK forces.

Painting is just right.

Rabbit
2013-08-27, 20:42
That's an RSOV Land Rover; not UK forces.

Do you know what the hell is the name of the thing replacing it? We just usually called it the side by side in Afghanistan.

I know its OT but I just really want to get the name.

Eddie Baker
2013-08-27, 21:01
Do you know what the hell is the name of the thing replacing it? We just usually called it the side by side in Afghanistan.

I know its OT but I just really want to get the name.

Lightweight Tactical All Terrain Vehicle (LTATV)? I didn't know it was completely replacing the RSOV, since the Ranger Regiment also uses HMMWVs.

Rhino
2013-08-28, 08:07
Rudd;1942280']I'm pretty sure they can and did swap the side the driver is on for Iraq

I seriously doubt that. Every ref I've seen of a British WMIK is right hand drive, including from Iraq, got any refs?
http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20040308042406/http://operations.mod.uk/telic/images/misc/lynx_wmik2.jpg

PLODDITHANLEY
2013-08-28, 08:43
There always used to be loads of LHD land rovers, I guess because of the cold war deployments although nowadays I don't know.

Chuc
2013-08-28, 09:07
Hang on, Left hand drive?

Flip the picture horizontally, everybody's happy.

Mikemonster
2013-08-28, 21:13
Well I never, you learn something new every day. I just thought it was a cheap painting.

Eddie Baker
2013-08-28, 21:30
Well I never, you learn something new every day. I just thought it was a cheap painting.

Still is.

But the big tip-off that it wasn't a UK Land Rover would likely have been the Mk-19 on it. Aside from UKSF, the BA and RM never used the Mk-19, and that isn't a "pinkie." That and the US camo and helmets.

Mikemonster
2013-08-28, 21:33
Yeah I spotted those, just had them in the 'cheap painting' category though - Action Man box style (or GI Joe). Although in all fairness I can't paint that (though it is quite hard with just my fingers, poster paint, pva glue and dried pasta).

Eddie Baker
2013-08-28, 21:42
Yeah I spotted those, just had them in the 'cheap painting' category though - Action Man box style (or GI Joe). Although in all fairness I can't paint that (though it is quite hard with just my fingers, poster paint, pva glue and dried pasta).

Stop sniffing the paint and stop eating the glue and dried pasta. It will probably get much easier. :mrgreen: