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Tim270
2012-05-16, 18:25
There were two of them, born in meltdown of the most devastating war and living in the looming of the new one, created to take lives and become icons of their and following times. The warriors, the legends, the kings, the blood brothers - SKS and AK.

To win in a future war Soviet armies needed new weapons, capable to channel the fury of new 7.62x39 round, fail-safe and deadly. First weapon was thought as heir of the old glory, semi-automatic carbine that would bring down enemies with accurate single shots at 400 m range without enormous recoil of Mosin rifle. Second one was created to go USSR on everybody's asses with devastating automatic fire and so it does up until now! While unbound badassery of AK-47 is a fact known worldwide, the topic is dedicated to older brother who had his own great moments.

SKS had it's trial by fire in the end of Great Patriotic War, when some elements of 1st Belarussian front recieved new carbines and tested them in Germany during Wermacht's last stand. The weapon proved it's worth, but still required some development, which lasted till 1949.

http://i.imgur.com/yudFL.jpg

In the next decade, AK and SKS stood side by side in the service, supplementing each other's strengths. AK was an assaulting beast, while SKS was like hunter's bow, delivering strike to the heart. Thanks to loading automation and ability to feed the 10-round box magazine with clips, SKS concept satisfied to all requirements of that time for middle-to-long distance combat.

http://i.imgur.com/ugZcR.jpg

50s have passed and new doctrines made those qualities unnecessary and SKS started to fade away and became second line weapon. But there ain't no grave to hold this body down, so SKS emerged and appeared in number of conflicts around the world. Whether it was in jungles of Vietnam, African sands or Korean mountains, SKS stood strong and deserved to be in line with greatest firearms of 20th century. It was produced in number of variants, in Project Reality we have SKS with folding bayonet and Type 59/66 with grenade launcher muzzle and front sight, which is able to shoot grenades at almost 200 yards.


Credits:
Model/Texture - [R-DEV]Tim270
Text - [R-DEV]Nosferatu

Amok@ndy
2012-05-16, 18:27
yeah baby :) that will add more fun to Ins :)

ShockUnitBlack
2012-05-16, 18:32
Very cool. Any thoughts as to who will get the grenade launcher variant?

Adriaan
2012-05-16, 18:56
Very cool. Any thoughts as to who will get the grenade launcher variant?

The NVA mainly, possibly some of the unconventional armies in PR as well (as one option for their grenadier).

CTRifle
2012-05-16, 19:26
awesome! what great quality great job

Psyko
2012-05-16, 20:00
gawd dayumm!! Thats some sexy wood texture my friend! Go hana mhaith!

ma21212
2012-05-16, 20:31
thats sex...

WVNDERWAFFE
2012-05-16, 20:44
Is this weapon getting into the next version?
It looks nice.

Stealthgato
2012-05-16, 21:23
Oh man, this is freaking awesome. SKS is my favorite regular rifle in the game but I always disliked the comparatively bad model/textures. If it will have the ability to reload mid-magazine... mimimimimi

kingkoolkoobyak
2012-05-16, 21:46
you are a poet, sir

sharpie
2012-05-16, 21:59
Tim, that is beyond beautiful.

Daniel
2012-05-16, 22:13
@"GRUNGER" Weapon is already for long time in-game already, nice strong thing/beast (now knowing it's even 7.62 mm (!)), just now it gets a freshness update, new texture (and model obviously, obviously we're getting a rifle-grenade launcher there too!) ;) :p 8)

paul161616
2012-05-16, 22:15
pure sexy sex

ShockUnitBlack
2012-05-16, 22:23
@"GRUNGER" Weapon is already for long time in-game already, nice strong thing/beast (now knowing it's even 7.62 mm (!))7.62x39mm, though.

Daniel
2012-05-16, 22:34
7.62x39mm, though.

Why "though" ? I mean, also compared too the Ppsh, that one also has 7.62 mm ones in its drum-magazine, right? (Wow, how 50x 7.62mm bullets fit in that small Ppsh drum-magazine... quite crazy...)

nater
2012-05-16, 23:12
Why "though" ? I mean, also compared too the Ppsh, that one also has 7.62 mm ones in its drum-magazine, right? (Wow, how 50x 7.62mm bullets fit in that small Ppsh drum-magazine... quite crazy...)

PPSh uses 7.62x25mm, which are pistol rounds. And their drum magazine holds 71 rounds.

Daniel
2012-05-17, 00:02
Wow, even more crazy, 71 rounds fitting in such a crazy-small drum-magazine... o_O
Well, and? Does ...x39mm cause more damage then ...x35mm or what? o_O

Daniel
2012-05-17, 00:13
Well, okay, ^^ just found out on Wiki, that Ppsh 7.62x25mm rounds just have ~ 400-700 J while the SKS 7.62x39mm has about 2000-2500 J. (!!! o_O )

KiloJules
2012-05-17, 00:27
If it will have the ability to reload mid-magazine... mimimimimi

PLEEAAASE!

I'd rather go resupply more often on my last two mags than having to senselessly waste ammo or start new firefights with a half empty mag. This is actually my reason for not taking/liking it...

ShockUnitBlack
2012-05-17, 00:56
And a full-size 7.62x51mm round has 3500J.

22cal
2012-05-17, 01:06
Great job on modeling, but the bayonet doesn't look like the ones I always see. But there is probably a dozen so variants to the sks bayonet,

DDS
2012-05-17, 02:51
Very nice work!

Some day soon SKS... you'll be all mine!

PzpWKAGvGdA

Wakain
2012-05-17, 10:34
This is great! I always wondered if the albeit finished model of the show your models thread would find its way to PR. What's next, the Kukri?

That grenadier version would seem to be a very rare sight nowadays, though.
And though sure to spice things up for the NVA, was it used in any large quantities during that conflict?

Jedimushroom
2012-05-17, 10:40
Excellent work, now where oh where is my PKP? :P

Navo
2012-05-17, 10:59
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG

AnimalMother.
2012-05-17, 11:51
Very good work Tim! Looking forward to the progress of some of your other projects ;)


And as always great write up Nos.

Antol
2012-05-17, 12:49
aaah i wish all weapons in PR had this level of detail. Brilliant.

ChallengerCC
2012-05-17, 14:21
Looks epic!

Nebsif
2012-05-17, 16:24
*FapFapFap* another high quality soviet old-school weapon model!! <3
Will definitely motivate me 2 play SKS kits more often as it wont hurt my eyes like it does now :D

Mouthpiece
2012-05-17, 18:16
One of the sexiest wood textures I've seen. Bravo!

BroCop
2012-05-17, 19:12
That grenadier version would seem to be a very rare sight nowadays, though.


Actually the Yugo SKS is quite common and the rifle grenades for it are available in dozens to you average farmer (over here that is)

Wakain
2012-05-17, 20:09
Actually the Yugo SKS is quite common and the rifle grenades for it are available in dozens to you average farmer (over here that is)

lol, I thought I'd seen madness when I saw Slovenian peasants dressed up like ww2 partizans trying to take Trieste from the Germans (?!) in the movie Trst je nash (Trieste is ours) but now I'm picturing crazy hrvatski farmers with riflegrenades barbequing on the beaches of Dalmatia!

Yugoslavia, fuck yeah!

RazoR41
2012-05-17, 21:42
Tim270;1771931']There were two of them, born in meltdown of the most devastating war and living in the looming of the new one, created to take lives and become icons of their and following times. The warriors, the legends, the kings, the blood brothers - SKS and AK.

To win in a future war Soviet armies needed new weapons, capable to channel the fury of new 7.62x39 round, fail-safe and deadly. First weapon was thought as heir of the old glory, semi-automatic carbine that would bring down enemies with accurate single shots at 400 m range without enormous recoil of Mosin rifle. Second one was created to go USSR on everybody's asses with devastating automatic fire and so it does up until now! While unbound badassery of AK-47 is a fact known worldwide, the topic is dedicated to older brother who had his own great moments.

SKS had it's trial by fire in the end of Great Patriotic War, when some elements of 1st Belarussian front recieved new carbines and tested them in Germany during Wermacht's last stand. The weapon proved it's worth, but still required some development, which lasted till 1949.

http://i.imgur.com/yudFL.jpg

In the next decade, AK and SKS stood side by side in the service, supplementing each other's strengths. AK was an assaulting beast, while SKS was like hunter's bow, delivering strike to the heart. Thanks to loading automation and ability to feed the 10-round box magazine with clips, SKS concept satisfied to all requirements of that time for middle-to-long distance combat.

http://i.imgur.com/ugZcR.jpg

50s have passed and new doctrines made those qualities unnecessary and SKS started to fade away and became second line weapon. But there ain't no grave to hold this body down, so SKS emerged and appeared in number of conflicts around the world. Whether it was in jungles of Vietnam, African sands or Korean mountains, SKS stood strong and deserved to be in line with greatest firearms of 20th century. It was produced in number of variants, in Project Reality we have SKS with folding bayonet and Type 59/66 with grenade launcher muzzle and front sight, which is able to shoot grenades at almost 200 yards.


Credits:
Model/Texture - [R-DEV]Tim270
Text - [R-DEV]Nosferatu

Damn that weapon looks good.

karambaitos
2012-05-18, 11:48
too bad the BF2 engine will completely destroy the models beauty

nater
2012-05-18, 17:03
too bad the BF2 engine will completely destroy the models beauty

Not true, there's a lot of high quality weapons in game already.

General Dragosh
2012-05-18, 19:42
Zastava M59/66 PAP

I say !

Stealthgato
2012-05-18, 20:51
too bad the BF2 engine will completely destroy the models beauty

No, look at FH2 and some of the weapons in PR aswell.

Rambo Medic
2012-05-18, 22:34
My pants.

saXoni
2012-05-20, 13:58
Looks great, good job! :)

BroCop
2012-05-20, 19:28
Zastava M59/66 PAP

I say !

Subliminal messages bro, subliminal messages.


Nothing to see here lads, move along.

http://moodyeyeview.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/men_in_black_movie.jpg

Rhino
2012-05-21, 09:32
too bad the BF2 engine will completely destroy the models beauty

Not true, there's a lot of high quality weapons in game already.

No, look at FH2 and some of the weapons in PR aswell.

Ye, BF2's gfx engine isn't that bad tbh, sure its normal map rendering is a bit dated etc but you can still get really nice looking model in BF2 and IMO, looking a lot better than some of the modern engines that are constantly shoving effects over everything...

The biggest problem in PR is that we have so much stuff, we can't have super high res textures otherwise players will run out of ram when loading into a map, and CTD (even with like 8gbs since BF2 is a 32bit program and as such, is limited by that). As such many of our weapon/vehicle textures have to be only 1024x1024 pixels or lower, when really we have made them in 2048x2048, sometimes even 4096x4096 or even higher (2048x2048 is the max BF2 can use btw, which saved in DXT5 with full mips, is like 5.33mbs just for one sheet, when you also have normal map sheets etc too) so we are simply forced to have our textures a lot lower than we would like them to be, just so you can play the game.

Now in mods like Alpha Project where they have very little in the ways of content (no offense to them), they can easily have 2048x2048 textures just for the player's hands and will no where near reach the ram limit of BF2 because they don't have all the other stuff we have to load on top of that.

We are looking at optimizing areas of the mod and the more we optimize, the more we can then bulk up our texture sizes for some items, like 1st person weapon textures ;)

Jolly
2012-05-21, 11:17
Sexy weapon!

Bob of Mage
2012-06-12, 02:17
Might be nice to see this as an ALT kit for the Taliban Grenadier. They seem like one of the few factions who would still use gear this old. It's too bad that UGLs have largely replaced rifle grenade, meaning that we will have few chances to use this nice new model for that role.

godfather_596
2012-06-12, 09:23
amazing textures!!!!! it certainly needed a makeover

Apo
2012-06-12, 16:28
Tim I am so proud of you, I might just build you a temple!

Arnoldio
2012-06-12, 19:09
Slowly PR is getting up on quality... this is win!

Spush
2012-06-12, 20:29
Slowly PR is getting up on quality... this is win!

We're always quality.

nater
2012-06-13, 03:00
Slowly PR is getting up on quality... this is win!

Slowly? You are crazy, PR is high quality, 5 stars.

Nebsif
2012-06-15, 17:18
Slowly? You are crazy, PR is high quality, 5 stars.

ever played FH2?

40mmrain
2012-06-16, 01:02
FH2 is shit compared to PR

Spush
2012-06-16, 01:07
FH2 is shit compared to PR

We're not discussing this.

Tim270
2012-06-16, 02:11
Bashing FH2 is not cool. I personally love FH2.

Souls Of Mischief
2012-06-16, 09:57
FH2 is shit compared to PR

So is your opinion.

Daniel
2012-06-16, 12:06
FH2 better graphics, PR lot more teamwork, fun and excitement.

BroCop
2012-06-16, 18:32
Okay, sorry for my expression but why the bloody fuck are you discussing FH2 in a Highlight thread about the SKS being updated?

nater
2012-06-16, 19:05
ever played FH2?

Apples and oranges.

Can't wait for the new SKS, hopefully this means the insurgents should get the correct bayonet now.

Souls Of Mischief
2012-06-16, 21:23
Okay, sorry for my expression but why the bloody fuck are you discussing FH2 in a Highlight thread about the SKS being updated?

Because some idiot said FH2 is shit?

Sluispluis
2012-06-17, 11:11
Looking good! :-P