PR:V aircraft and their roles

[Hitman.2.5]

a vietnam map with out Fixed wing and rotary wing would be like the second world war without the germans and the japs...

Originally Posted by mo0nbuggy1

I want to see puff and the other gunship, thier tracer rounds will look amazing.

U mean like the AC-119 or the 130?

[Snazz]

Originally Posted by Hitman.2.5

a vietnam map with out Fixed wing and rotary wing would be like the second world war without the germans and the japs...

Infantry jungle combat would be like fighting Italians?

[TheOldBreed]

Originally Posted by Snazz

BTW B-52s at least during Vietnam were still primarily long range strategic bombers, so they make no sense in PRV.

i beg to differ lad.

[Hitman.2.5]

Originally Posted by Snazz

Infantry jungle combat would be like fighting Italians?

no because the Vietnamese dont change sides at half time like the Iti's

[TheOldBreed]

i can see an arc light strike being an area attack. yeah, it'll cover more area, but it'd be sick and 'life like'. think a whole load of PR style JDAMs in a row haha

[Snazz]

Originally Posted by TheOldBreed

i beg to differ lad.

In that case you're welcome to elaborate on why you think strategic bombing raids fit in to PR game play.

[TheOldBreed]

Originally Posted by Snazz

In that case you're welcome to elaborate on why you think strategic bombing raids fit in to PR game play.

no i mean they were used for tactical bombing in Vietnam as well. see things like: Operation Niagara

[[R-DEV]Bob_Marley]

Originally Posted by TheOldBreed

no i mean they were used for tactical bombing in Vietnam as well. see things like: Operation Niagara

During Op. Niagara B52s were used to attack the rear echalons (speicifically fixed positions such as ammo dumps) of an NVA formation consisting of three divisions sauce. Not exactly CAS now, is it?

Arclite raids were not used in direct support of troops - they were not precise enough for that. They were typically used to attack an area before allied troops arrived and tactical aircraft (F4, A4, A1, etc) were used to provide close support, not strategic bombers.

[TheOldBreed]

Originally Posted by [R-MOD]Bob_Marley

During Op. Niagara B52s were used to attack the rear echalons (speicifically fixed positions such as ammo dumps) of an NVA formation consisting of three divisions sauce. Not exactly CAS now, is it?

Arclite raids were not used in direct support of troops - they were not precise enough for that. They were typically used to attack an area before allied troops arrived and tactical aircraft (F4, A4, A1, etc) were used to provide close support, not strategic bombers.

true, not in the sense of "call it in hot, real close", close air as displayed in what most people will know as 'We Were Soldiers'. At Khe Sanh, the surrounding hill battles and others such as at Ripcord, arc light strikes were available every three hours, and if one was in the air, they could be redirected accordingly if someone needed them (p. 409 of Valley of Decision explains how a Col. Lownds jumped on the horn and called in a strike on troop movement he was observing). Close-in B52 strikes were an accepted tactic, the closest was 1,100m of friendly positions(p. 416). i'd say that's pretty close air considering the ordnance they carried

B52s were used in a strategic sense during Linebacker I & II, that's the defintion of strategic bombing, hitting industry, government, population.
The use of the B52 on the battlefield level, ie interdiction and close support, is considered tactical usage. In the end, it was a strategic aircraft used for tactical purposes.

Because this has got retardly off-topic, in terms of PRV, an arc light strike can be used as replacement for a JDAM as it is now. let's face it, who calls in a JDAM now less than 1000m away. a 500lbs or napalm canister could be used as an area attack, but an aircraft that flies in and drops it will have to be made, as it couldn't be dropped from 15 miles away a JDAM can.(not telling anyone what to do, but just sayin)

all these words could have gone into my dissertation proposal so i'm heading off haha

Valley of Decision: The Siege of Khe Sanh: Amazon.co.uk: John Prados, Ray W. Stubbe: Books it's a sick book.

[Elektro]

Originally Posted by Hitman.2.5

no because the Vietnamese dont change sides at half time like the Iti's

Meh, we have food, wine and football. Who cares which side we are on?