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Old 04-11-2012, 11:44 AM   #1
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Firstly, everyone and their dog has seen Full Metal Jacket. There is nothing clever about parroting bigoted lines from what was actually one of the most anti-war films of all time. It is really old.

Secondly, Every second squad is named "ting tong" or "ching chong" and you can't go five minutes without hearing someone say "sucky sucky" or some other epithet (such as "chink" or "slanty eyes").

It isn't that bad and I'm not horribly offended but I'm a bit embarrassed on behalf of everyone partaking in it. For starters, I thought this community was much better than that and all you're doing is showing off your own ignorance.

When you make fun of the games spoken language be aware that it is Chinese, not Vietnamese and it is possible that you might have someone of Chinese background either in your squad or within Mumble radius that doesn't want to be hearing you go on about how stupid the language sounds or doing your little impressions. The fact hat you could hear Thai, Vietnamese, Mandarin or Cantonese and not be able to distinguish them (they are surprisingly easier to distinguish than European languages) means you shouldn't be doing impressions of them.

Vietnam is a country that has been around in the form of a large grouping of tribes (influenced by China) since forever and is now emerging as a major economic power in South East Asia. I spent a few weeks there in the beginning of this year and had a great time learning about the language, the food, the culture and riding a scooter/local bus in Ho Chi Minh and all over Southern Vietnam. I don't recall being reminded or actively thinking of the war at all in my entire time there. It wouldn't hurt to learn something about the country or the region aside from what happened there in the 60s/70s.

Anyway, I'm just asking people to think before they speak and maybe even learn a thing or two about the things that have become so stereotyped in their minds. As a Westerner who has been living in East Asia for five years, listening to some of you guys talk like this is putting more stock in that nasty "loud, fat and ignorant American" stereotype that goes around this part of the world.

PS. Great mod by the way. Having an absolute blast. I just wanted to try and put the brakes on something before it got worse.

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Old 04-11-2012, 12:01 PM   #2
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I agree with you, same applies for insults towards religions, especially islam which is very normal in PR. Just don't say the N-word and your fine. Double standards all over the place.


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Old 04-11-2012, 12:07 PM   #3
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+1 Its been a big problem in these kind of games since they started tbh.

I don't allow it in my squads, if anyone ever heard me use such language I hope they would call me on it.


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Old 04-11-2012, 12:11 PM   #4
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Completely agree, up to server admins to enforce this more and as you see it going on report it or kick them out of your squad if your a leader etc. Also stand up to those people and tell them to knock it off granted most people wont listen but try to do what you can.
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Old 04-11-2012, 12:39 PM   #5
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Don't take it that hard man, it is a game and some people are ***holes and keep in mind, people who are reinacting those movies aren't doing it to bully the Vietnamese people. Of course racism is a bad thing, but these days even if you fart you become racist. By the way languages aren't a race.
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Old 04-11-2012, 01:24 PM   #6
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I'm fine with things such as "Get some!" "Where's Charlie?" "We need to find Charlie", etc, but things such as "ting tong" or "ching chong" "chink" or "slanty eyes" are racist remarks.


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Old 04-11-2012, 01:30 PM   #7
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Nice post. I always (probably too optimistic) assume people are using it for pure fun without any offensive remarks, but I think I'm just too foolish. So, to repeat myself - you have made very good point - won't harm to say it public from time to time.

But it's important to not fall to the other side, the biggest ally of racism - political correctness. ;] Good example:




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Old 04-11-2012, 01:42 PM   #8
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Its strange that you see this kind of joking bad in game that is based on shooting people.

You hear "ragheads" on US side and "capitalist pigs" and "infidels" on taliban, people are just acting their roles.
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:00 PM   #9
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I was playing at 2 AM in the CIA Vietnam server. There was a CIA member as squad leader and another guy in the squad was saying "Come one you n-word plural hurry the f up". Then as we were on the NVA side, he kept shouting "Ching chong ting a long ding dong" and I was surprised squad leader didn't say anything but actually joined him. I kept quite as I just wanted to get one match in and wasn't in the mood of getting kicked out of squad to tell the to shut up and just play.
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:18 PM   #10
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Its strange that you see this kind of joking bad in game that is based on shooting people.

You hear "ragheads" on US side and "capitalist pigs" and "infidels" on taliban, people are just acting their roles.
This.

I think its just roleplaying most of the time, people dont actually mean it and if you asked someone to stop saying it because it was offensive to them, im sure they would

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