Karbala 0.86

[Rudd]

Apache - 2 seater teamwork orientated asset (i.e. is so fragile that will only enage stuff when confirmed from the ground)

LB - wtf aerobatic lonewolf chopper (x2)

Apache was more fun to hunt down, and more fun to use.


I really want a 32 layer with no strykers (or they are delayed or something) with blackhawks and with 1 apache. This would mean the vast majority of the infantry would be completely reliant on the air for resupply and protection.

[Herbiie]

The Technicals spawn at the water tower (well some of them)

And I object to you degrading me, I didn't just think You were a bad pilot because you were complainign about the technicals. I thought, "How many times have I been killed by good LB pilots of Karbala... alot... how many times have I seen one shot down by a technical... not often."

If you are going to make a change then replace the LBs with BHs, you get extra armour, fire power, and they can actually transport troops.

[amazing_retard]

Hmm wouldn't adding blackhawks make the problem worse? I mean they are a lot slower than the LB, and BH is a lot bigger for a target. Not to mention people are going to use them as guns ships and get them shot down. So the team is going to lose 10 tickets for a couple of dead insurgents I have to say just use teamwork and spot targets out, make sure u laze any techs and AA. Oh yeah you have armor too, use it

[Alex6714]

Originally Posted by amazing_retard

Hmm wouldn't adding blackhawks make the problem worse? I mean they are a lot slower than the LB, and BH is a lot bigger for a target. Not to mention people are going to use them as guns ships and get them shot down. So the team is going to lose 10 tickets for a couple of dead insurgents I have to say just use teamwork and spot targets out, make sure u laze any techs and AA. Oh yeah you have armor too, use it

BH is way faster than the LB in game. If people use it stupidly so be it. I can use that stryker or humvee stupidly, doesn´t mean it shouldn´t be there. Thats a really poor excuse.

[badmojo420]

The technicals that spawn in the warehouse do not respawn. The ones at mosque do.

And i disagree that the littlebird has no teamwork, flying along side another littlebird has been the most fun i've had when it comes to aircraft team work. The only problem the littlebirds have that the apache did not was range. The apache can hover up high raining down death. The only up high tactic i've seen with the littlebirds also includes a kamakazi like dive onto the target.

As i see it, the whole problem is how the technicals can be 1 manned so effectively. As a pilot you're left with nowhere to go that isn't hot. Without the technicals the insurgents would have to group up if they wanted to ambush you out in the desert near the US main. It's almost safer to fly directly over the city, then to fly down the edge of the map.

Using teamwork is a good message, but i've never seen a team securing a flight path between the main and a cache. These are pub games, not tournament finals.

[CPU]

I think an LB survival tactic might be to not keep flying the same route in and out- after a while the nme will notice and wait with the .50 ^_-

[alexaus]

Originally Posted by Alex6714

To be honest it needs LBs removed, Apache put back in, Transport LB or BH put in.

He knows what he is talking about !

[[R-COM]HangMan]

The apache was good on karbala. Yet im not saying its unbalanced in 0.86... the map can't just rely on the airsupport like some ppl think Karbala should. I have been on the US team the last 3 times i played the map and we have not lost. The LB's get gunned down easily but that is countered by the massive convoys that can be made with all the ground assets available. It is balanced atm.. If anything the LB should go all together and a blackhawk should go in instead...