new PLA APC

[PhiR]

changelog says:
Added new PLA WZ551A with new QJC-88 MG.

The new vehicle load-out for qwai is nice, but this particular APC is a bit disappointing. Its gun overheats way too fast and it has no zoom. I understand that the zoom can be considered realistic, but the overheating really makes this vehicle crippled.

[TempesT]

Yeah I experienced the over-heating issue earlier. I was really confused why after spraying at some infantry I over-heated so quickly, forcing us to retreat...

[seph567]

and why add an APC with AA capabilitys if u took all the choppers out?

[Expendable Grunt]

Because Non-Western forces Can't Have Nice Things.

The gun (all 50's) overheat insanely fast. It can't be that bad in reality, can it?

M.

[Jazz]

Surely not. I mean, if you can fire a whole magazine in the SAW and be just fine, you should be able to put more rounds through the 50 cal, which has a heavier barrel.

[[R-DEV]Rhino]

Ye the overheating thing on 50cals was added in v0.85 to try and make players use there MGs more realistically (in short bursts) as in r/l a 50cal has soo much recoil that you can not fire it constantly on target like you can ingame but IMO the overheating thing really needs a rethink as right now its not working at making players firing in short bursts and even when firing in short bursts it still "overheats" way too fast making the 50cals useless.

Originally Posted by seph567

and why add an APC with AA capabilitys if u took all the choppers out?

It's more than just an APC that has AA Capability, the PLA use the WZ551A as the US use there HMMWVs but with the addition of it being able to carry more infantry, giving a little more protection and it having pretty good AA capabilities.

the WZ551A is also on Qinling that dose have choppers if you want to shoot any down with it, thou when doing our promo shots for the WZ551A we found that you can only fire enough bullets at it until the chopper is crippled (and with any luck its engine cuts out) before it overheats if all your shots are on target...

[[R-DEV]Outlawz7]

Originally Posted by [R-DEV]Rhino

Ye the overheating thing on 50cals was added in v0.85 to try and make players use there MGs more realistically (in short bursts) as in r/l a 50cal has soo much recoil that you can not fire it constantly on target like you can ingame but IMO the overheating thing really needs a rethink as right now its not working at making players firing in short bursts and even when firing in short bursts it still "overheats" way too fast making the 50cals useless.

Then simply add recoil to .50 cals??

[[R-DEV]Rhino]

Originally Posted by Outlawz

Then simply add recoil to .50 cals??

well that would be the obvious solution but iirc its not possible to have recoil on a PCO/vehicle the same way you can on a hand weapon but not 100% sure on that.

you would have to ask fuzzhead etc to exactly why the overheating was added and not done in any other way but I agree, overheating isn't the way to go about this.

The other solution, if possible again would be to add deviation after each shot so constant firing would make your bullets go more wide spread thou if you did them in short, controlled bursts it would be much more accurate.

[Tartantyco]

-I would just like to add here that the recoil on .50 cals is actually very minor with the proper carriage(or whatever it's called). I'm not sure what the US army uses but in the Norwegian army we use this:



-The carriage absorbs most of the recoil and the bar protruding backwards helps you maintain accuracy further. They're used on all M2s and will allow you to fire with practically no deviation at 100m, maybe a 10m diameter deviation at 500m with sustained fire.

[Rudd]

The 50cal Chi APC could be awesome

but whats holding it back imo isn't so much about weaponary as scenario

Think about it, an organised team can turn qwai in to a nightmare for the US by destroying all the bridges and guarding the land bridge, rendering 100% of US assets useless. Which is...kinda good I think.

But it is only in that particular scenario that the Chi APCs advantage can be demonstrated.


You know what I mean ofc, Amphibious capability.

Qwai, isn't the showcase for it really, being an aging map that is pretty oldschool, the crops are still not rendered at range etc.

But Tad Sae...now that would be a fun demonstration of Chi Amphibious capability.