Jumping guzzles my stamina :(

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Originally Posted by ubershank47

I would say that jumping is a necessary evil for the limitations of the BF2 engine, on difficult terrain you sometimes have to get forward momentum coupled with jumping just to scale a hill which can be frustrating and even time consuming (which could be considered realistic I suppose), same goes with Fallujah's infamous "Olympics Curbs" that require you to waste stamina just to navigate (simple solution is to make a small invisible plane that extends like a ramp up the curb so people will "walk up" the curb rather then have to hurdle it, not realistic in some sense but practical none the less, but you wouldn't be able to hide along side the curb.).

I can't see how that would have anything but a positive effect on gameplay (it would mainly deal with the issue of characters getting stopped by sidewalk curbs when approaching them from certain angles).

You could technically have a bit of an issue with the "invisibility" of the ramp interfering with fire in some very rare situations--the issues are so minor they're not really worth mentioning.

(I really can't wrap my head around the logic behind not doing this. I mean, surely some of the original playtesters must have complained about this.)

Originally Posted by ubershank47

There is no real solid solution to fixing the problem you could remove jumping all together but people still use other methods such as prone/stand combo while not as effective (takes too much time) it can have the same effect as it makes the target hard to hit especially from medium to long range as well as it is spontaneous.

From what I understand, the rate at which a character changes stance (i.e. the animation) cannot be changed, so the "spontaneous" is here forever.

What can be changed however is the amount of deviation that results from changing stance. I would just max out deviation for jumping (like something nasty--you shouldn't be able to hit a wall in front of you). So at least things like teagbagging/dolphine-diving result in an prohibitively high level of inaccuracy (i.e. it's not worth doing).

But I think they've done all they can with jumping.

(But I still think jumping should consume less stamina for reasons stated before; mature players shouldn't have their gameplay suffer for a few bunnyhoppers.)

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Originally Posted by barbdwyer22

I am seeing a lot of ridiculous assumptions that people do not jump in real life. Do you know how many walls I had to climb over in Iraq? Gaps between buildings and ditches I had to jump across, or small walls I had to jump behind so I would not get shot by a PKM while I ran across a street.

Point taken.

Originally Posted by barbdwyer22

Jumping up onto objects so you can see over stuff is completely realistic as well.

Really? Isn't that risky? (Not really game-related, just curious.) Granted, I've heard a lot of the opposition over there aren't exactly the greatest shots.

Originally Posted by barbdwyer22

There is no need to mod out walls to make them shorter, that would ruin the immersion in my opinion.

That was just to compensate for the removal of the ability to jump.

Originally Posted by barbdwyer22

I would like to see the ability to do dynamic entries (making your own entrance if you know what I mean.)

You can in some maps--break-away walls and destructible objects were added in larger amounts in v0.85. (I've seen people smash through walls with APCs, thus giving alternate access to infantry.)

Originally Posted by barbdwyer22

Oh yeah, and jumping around with 100+ lbs of gear does suck and eats up a lot of stamina, but we are in pretty good shape before we deploy so. =)

... $hit I gotta work out more.

[Roelor]

What about invisible geometry to help walking over curles?