Lee Enfield, And good job.

[Cheesygoodness]

I rather enjoy the new patch. The only real confused thoughts / feedback / suggestions I have is well this.

Excuse my possible ignorance but if memory serves the Lee Enfield No. 4 and SMLE are rather well distributed in the middle east yet and from my experience with it, Its a rather accurate long-range rifle. My only confusion is why the Milita rather then the Insurgents have it. I'd assume due to the fact they are rather wide spread in that area that perhaps the ambusher would carry it instead of the SKS. It just overall seems more 'insurgent' like if you get my drift. Like they snapped up the old bolt action rifle from the closet rather the SKS which seems more well I don't know how to say it properly but I'd figure due mainly to geographical situations the insurgents would be better served then the Militia.

Otherwise honestly and coming from me a person that really hasn't liked the mod at all until the newest patch? A superb job. Well balanced tactical feel. I'd have to say it is the best release to date. The use of buildings and not flag spawning (If that was this release) was brilliant and adds that 'fresh' feel to the game where a battle can shift and move yet still forcing defensible points regardless of playing the map 8 or 9 times. The new animations are wonderful and my only dream would be an old single action revolver for the insurgent 'Cell Leader' kit but I suppose if I really wanted it enough to ask I'd get into modeling it myself.

As always I'll praise you devs for the time and style you put into the mod. Your a genius about coding, modeling, sound effects, and map design. I admit before I couldn't get past the thought that you guys had your head up your arse with the way it was pieced together but after this release its rounded out well. So I supposed you've convinced me that not only are your genius coders, modelers, map designers, and sound artists but you got the playability and realism feel balanced out much better.

Overall I shall say thank you for your time and effort and proving my original feelings toward you wrong. Heck even some of the playerbase has proved less elitest since this one showed up which is a big plus.

[gclark03]

A bit too obsequious.

How does the Militia arms dealing faction have any customers by selling World War II-era firearms?

I would have expected their SKS replaced or supplemented by the FAL, or at least the AK-74 - not the No. 4.

[[R-DEV]Masaq]

Because the Balkans were flooded with the LE during WW2 and the following years. We handed them out like candy to anyone who was willing to fight Nazis during the war and anyone wiling to fight Communists after it... which meant that the guys fighting the Communists after the war were sometimes the people that the anti-Nazis had been fighting earlier, and the anti-Nazis were often the Communists that the anti-Communists were fighting.

When the British get involved in a region we really know how to give stability!

Oh, and it was also the main weapon in use by the Commonwealth nations too... that's a hell of a lot of firearms floating around. Never mind the fact that we used it until the 60s, and the L42 variant right up until last decade.


India still use it as their standard-issue weapon for some police and reservist military units, and they're still being made in some places....


So let's see less of the "WW-II era" being a slur. It's still a fine weapon

[Truism]

I love it, but the PPSH (which I also love) seems an odd choice. I don't know who these guys are dealing to, but they need to look at upgrading some of their stock.

[Spaz]

Masaq is right but it still dosn't stop me from not liking it

[[R-DEV]bosco]

The insurgents have the Lee Enfield aswell, but not as spawn kit.

[Cheesygoodness]

Oh I know. I meant this more as a 'congrats' then 'Lee Enfield and WWII weapons suckzorz.' thread. I just kinda believed the non-scoped one fit the ambusher kit rather well and from my memory they are rather well known throughout the area. Its not so much 'Give the thing to insurgents drop it from Milita!!!!' more like 'Doesn't a bolt action common rifle fit rather well into the ambusher kit?'

Regardless tis just my musings and feedback. Danke.

[<1sk>Headshot]

I'd have to agree that it doesn't really fit with the Russian arms dealers idea. Especially if they were under heavy attack from an organized force, you'd think they'd bust out the good stuff.

[Sgt.Sheep]

Because the Balkans were flooded with the LE during WW2 and the following years. We handed them out like candy to anyone who was willing to fight Nazis during the war and anyone wiling to fight Communists after it... which meant that the guys fighting the Communists after the war were sometimes the people that the anti-Nazis had been fighting earlier, and the anti-Nazis were often the Communists that the anti-Communists were fighting.

Could you give me some source Masaq? I did a quick google search and couldn't find anything, but this topic seems interesting.


Russian (or whatever eastern-bloc countries) arms dealers should have primarily AK variants, SKSs and Mosin Nagants (rather than Lee Enfields) IMHO, which were extensively mass produced during the Soviet Era, and are being mass produced as we speak.
I think the lack of Mosin Nagants is unfitting to an ex-soviet based faction, but I don't really care about that topic tbh.

[[R-DEV]Masaq]

Originally Posted by Sgt.Sheep

Could you give me some source Masaq? I did a quick google search and couldn't find anything, but this topic seems interesting.


Russian (or whatever eastern-bloc countries) arms dealers should have primarily AK variants, SKSs and Mosin Nagants (rather than Lee Enfields) IMHO, which were extensively mass produced during the Soviet Era, and are being mass produced as we speak.
I think the lack of Mosin Nagants is unfitting to an ex-soviet based faction, but I don't really care about that topic tbh.

Short introduction to Balkan history and Balkan wars « Bosanska istorija/povijest/historija forum-Bosnia/Balkan history

...is a good basic (non-academic) introduction to history of the area. The bit about aid to the region in WW2 is short, though.

The anti-communist rule Greece was propped up by the UK and US right up until the end of the Greek civil war 1949. A good (brief) introduction to the war is here:

Greece Civil War 1944-1949


My initial blurb was more for comic effect than historical accuracy but certainly if you do any background reading into the history of southeastern Europe during WW2 and after, you'll find plenty of arms floating around the region and as the British/Commonwealth service rifle of the time, that means the LE was popular everywhere. Much like the AK-47 today - you could drop a crate of Lee Enfields to partisans and if captured, it was hard to prove who'd supplied them.


The Lee-Enfield is the second most produced bolt-action rifle ever, second only to the Mosin Nagant. 17 million of them out there and still being made. The Nagant is not - the LE is the rifle with the longest production history.