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Old 04-29-2009, 10:08 PM   #41
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that would probaby delay a release for a really long time dont you think? and how much different is taiwanese gear from say the US army or marines anyway?
It would take atleast till 1.0 to get the Taiwanese out. I feel we should do it to the best of our ability and no just scrap together a bunch of reskins and rush it out.
The Differences

Current US Army

As you can see very little vest gear, and only some pouches.

And if you look above you see the same gear the current USMC in R/L have on but not the ones in PR which are from vBF2. Besides would you rather have a reskinned PLA, with M4s in 5 days or wait 6 months for a new kit geometry, new vehicles, new weapons, and faces?


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Old 04-30-2009, 08:10 AM   #42
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Nice but I think we should go for a totally new kit geometry. Different helmets,camo,gear from the vBF2 kits.
The screens were obviously to show the reskined cammo...


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would you rather have a reskinned PLA, with M4s in 5 days or wait 6 months for a new kit geometry, new vehicles, new weapons, and faces?
Both. There is no reason why flags and reskins cannot be tested long before anyone gets vehicles & maps done.

I wouldn't hang around for new kit geoms if I were you. They are nice, but they are purely aesthetic and with little difference to gameplay. Everything else is whats important, the vehicles, the maps, the weapons and even the cammo affect gameplay. But dont dwell on new kit geometries.

There is a certain order that you prioritise things in to get a community mod working, its roughly this:

Copied faction.
New flags & renamed faction.
Cammo & weapons.
-can technically be released here-
Vehicles.
New maps.

The first two are quite quick. The next takes a long time. The final two are likely to be partly done by the time the third is done, but take even longer. The maps can take many years to reach acceptable standards. Of course, there are exceptions, like Archer for the canadians.

It looks like Nozumu has gotten further than you, actually, so it looks like you are going to be joining their team, not the other way around.

XKCD forums, in the middle of a perfectly sane conversation:
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
Best post ever made!

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Old 05-01-2009, 12:01 PM   #43
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Waoooo, so glad to see this thread. As I'm away for studies and in an internet cafe right now, I don't get that much time, I will try to read all of this once I get back home.

Really glad as I think Taiwan for PR is really important. It's impossible to think of Communist China against the USA if Taiwan isn't involve!!!

Also, if we achieve our Japanese faction, we will get one map on an island really close to ROC and perhaps, as relations between Japan and ROC are "quiet" good, some maps involving the JSDF helping Tawan?!

Anyway, hope to see some more news of you guys. I saw your website, you made some nice progress Good luck!


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Old 05-01-2009, 03:34 PM   #44
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Hi Johan.!

I have saw your mail. I directy reply you in this thread

I’m really happy to hear that you are interested in our plan. It’s true that more players take their eyes on middle-east and western warfare. But asia should be a important part of PR too. I saw the works of French and JSDF. They are awesome and already have great progress. We are just getting start, what we lack is more helping hands! Thank for you message. I will contact Noobage and ask if he could help us. Seems he is a expert making models.

Taiwan air force include M2000-5EI x 48, M2000-5DI x 12 (lost 1 and 3 in accident)
They are purchased in 1992.
http://www.l-team.idv.tw/S-Report/photo/M2000-02.jpg
http://www.l-team.idv.tw/S-Report/photo/M2000-03.jpg
http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/jw!LF1UxX...v=450&next=413

There are also 6 La Fayette class ships in Navy

BTW, our M2000 model is Semi-finished, it is more like a draft …
It’s not made by our current team. It is from a ex-TW mod team. You can see it in the link below. I think your model should be better than us.







(We will make new voices. China and Taiwan speake chinese in very different accent)

Good day


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Old 05-01-2009, 06:24 PM   #45
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Well lets not argue about who's joining who and actually get to work.
This is what I think we should do.
High Priority
T91 ---------------------------------------------Weapon Model
Taipei ------------------------------------------ Map
Taiwanese Beach------------------------------Map
M60A3-------------------------------------------Vehicle Model
CM-32-------------------------------------------Vehicle Model
CM-32 MGS-------------------------------------Vehicle Model
AIDC F-CK-1 Ching-kou-----------------------Vehicle Model


Medium Priority
Re-skin of US Forces/New kit geometry------Kit
SPAS-12-----------------------------------------Weapon Model
AAV-P7A1---------------------------------------Vehicle Model
M24 Reskin--------------------------------------Reskin
MK-153 SMAW or APILAS----------------------Weapon Model
M1911 Reskin------------------------------------Reskin



Low Priority
SAR-21-------------------------------------------Weapon Model


As you can see we need some skinners and modelers. Our current modelers (2 or 3) won't be able to do much of this. Our skinners (1 or 2) won't be able to do this fast enough to turn us into another French...
Mappers are needed too =D


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Old 05-02-2009, 12:25 AM   #46
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aav-7 Model




OH-58D





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Old 05-02-2009, 01:13 AM   #47
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Ask USI to use their OH-58D model, saves time and effect.
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Old 05-02-2009, 03:09 AM   #48
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Wow, a lot could certainly be missed if one's away from the forums for a week 0_o

Hey Nozumu, nice to see some progress being made since last time we chatted

Looking through your plan (I'm assuming you are the leader), I'd recommend you direct most of the focus on infantry weapons and light armored vehicles. The Key assets that you should spend most time on are the T-91 rifle series, AT weaponry, APC's and jeeps, these should be HIGH priority. Don't worry about air assets as they won't be appreciated much if don't have a large 4x4 map. Also, the Spec-ops or "Nighhawk" class is unnecessary as PR has gotten rid of "Special Forces".

I'd also recommend you assigning one of your mappers to make an beach head or amphibious assault maps, this would give the faction an opportunity to show off its vehicle assets and also it'd be mutually beneficial for both the PLANM community faction and the Taiwan community faction.

BTW, looking at the AAV and T91 pictures, It seems the AAV has soom faces that needs to be aligned properly and the T-91 needs to be more rounded, right now it still looks very blocky

If you have any questions, feel free to PM me, though right now I cannot promise a quick reply as I'm away from home.

Good Luck
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Old 05-02-2009, 03:17 AM   #49
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cool

your AAV7 is really low poly right now and has some bad faces. I would recommend concentrating your polys on the main body more

OH-58D, the USI team is working on one which PR should be getting soon, your model is looking pretty good thou, but not as nice as the USI one which just needs exporting

good luck, keep it up


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Old 05-03-2009, 04:23 AM   #50
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I like the idea, it will take some work but I think once it's done it will be a nice new cog in the machine called Project Reality.


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