[Proposal] "Homeland War" Serbian & Croatian Factions - Page 2

DeltaFart · 03-19-2009, 10:43 PM

I agree with tann on this it seems like some hunting rifle isn't the best choice of words what does your military use for their advanced marksmen programs?

Tannhauser · 03-19-2009, 11:07 PM

Edited my post before you ninja'd me Delta, but I adressed the DMR question for the serbs ... No idea about the Croatians tho.

Amon · 03-20-2009, 02:29 AM

Guys... easy...

1. Im making this mod in the time span from 1991 - 1995. When there was war. We did not have all that equipment then... The ZNG are poorly armed because this were the beginnings of our army and we had a weapons embargo... So we used what we could find, and what the YPA (Yugoslav Peoples Army) diid not take on their retreating from Croatia in 1990. in 1991 the only armed force was the police, than you know in how deep shit we were....

2.I need to make more research to back something up i wrote in that document...
I need to replace the "sticky bomb" with "AT mine", Because, they were throwing AT mines at tanks out of desperation, when they had run out of AT weapon in the last days of battle... But i think its better to be a "sticky bomb" cos i don't know how others would understand they need to THROW an "AT mine" on a tank

Tannhauser · 03-20-2009, 02:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amon

Guys... easy...

1. Im making this mod in the time span from 1991 - 1995. When there was war. We did not have all that equipment then... The ZNG are poorly armed because this were the beginnings of our army and we had a weapons embargo... So we used what we could find, and what the YPA (Yugoslav Peoples Army) diid not take on their retreating from Croatia in 1990. in 1991 the only armed force was the police, than you know in how deep shit we were....

PR is set in the near future, you can base stuff on the past to renew old conflicts alright, but I doubt a war from the past would make it into PR. It doesn't fit what PR is achieving currently IMO..

CroCop · 03-22-2009, 04:25 PM

On the Croatian DMR...apparently we are still using M76's for both sniper and DMR roles (SVD as a placeholder) and a small amount of G3-SG1 (thats already in game)..

If needed I might extract more info as my father is a small arms logistics officer

also stick with new equipment...if you want you can always add the paramilitaries for the INS mode as there were (at least "ZNG" had them) weapons caches which are even to this day scattered around (they even found one last week)

Amon · 03-22-2009, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tannhauser

PR is set in the near future, you can base stuff on the past to renew old conflicts alright, but I doubt a war from the past would make it into PR. It doesn't fit what PR is achieving currently IMO..

Oh wait... in the other post here:
Yugoslav Wars
you can see that we fought EXACTLY as is fought in BF 2... a squad of 6-10 men guards a street from infantry and tanks... one heavy AT, one light, heavy gunner, marksman and so on... The "art of war" was different... but i think with those maps the "excitement" would still be the same...

Oh... and this is ZNG "Zbor Narodne Garde" (Croatian National Guard):

And this is HV "Hrvatska Vojska" (Croatian army):

Tannhauser · 03-22-2009, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amon

Oh wait... in the other post here:
Yugoslav Wars
you can see that we fought EXACTLY as is fought in BF 2... a squad of 6-10 men guards a street from infantry and tanks... one heavy AT, one light, heavy gunner, marksman and so on... The "art of war" was different... but i think with those maps the "excitement" would still be the same...

So that means you'd put korea-war or vietnam-war soldiers in PR just because they used similar tactics and squad-loadouts?...
Not wanting to be offensive, but that argument is biased.
And what's wrong with the current Croatian/Serbian forces? Are they less awesome than before to the point you wouldn't reproduce those battles in a modern context? How?

CroCop · 03-22-2009, 06:51 PM

Maybe because its not your ussual war...we have one side with a bunch of tanks, weapons and production capabilities whilst the other side has nothing but a couple of AK's,a bunch of WW2 era weapons and crop dusters instead of jets. Sure it sounds interesting to play (especially the militia vs militia concept) but IMO I do agree its almost impossible to recreate the same feeling. Giving them current arnaments in the real battles is totaly dull though but at least we could have the option to make some INS maps based in Afghanistan

~~$pyker~~ · 03-22-2009, 07:36 PM

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kakoste

lol my croat is rusty i have absolutely loads of ref pics for dubrovnik as some of my family lives out there so if you need any images let me know

DeltaFart · 03-22-2009, 09:54 PM

I have no issues with using past wars, I mean that's waht Basrah and Fallujah are after all

03-19-2009, 10:43 PM	#11
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03-19-2009, 11:07 PM	#12
Tannhauser Join Date: Nov 2007 Canada Location: Québec, Montréal Posts: 1,226	Re: [Help] "Homeland War" addon for PR Edited my post before you ninja'd me Delta, but I adressed the DMR question for the serbs ... No idea about the Croatians tho.
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03-20-2009, 02:29 AM	#13
Amon Join Date: Mar 2009 Croatia Location: Međimurje, Palovec Posts: 44	Re: [Help] "Homeland War" addon for PR Guys... easy... 1. Im making this mod in the time span from 1991 - 1995. When there was war. We did not have all that equipment then... The ZNG are poorly armed because this were the beginnings of our army and we had a weapons embargo... So we used what we could find, and what the YPA (Yugoslav Peoples Army) diid not take on their retreating from Croatia in 1990. in 1991 the only armed force was the police, than you know in how deep shit we were.... 2.I need to make more research to back something up i wrote in that document... I need to replace the "sticky bomb" with "AT mine", Because, they were throwing AT mines at tanks out of desperation, when they had run out of AT weapon in the last days of battle... But i think its better to be a "sticky bomb" cos i don't know how others would understand they need to THROW an "AT mine" on a tank

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03-22-2009, 04:25 PM	#15
CroCop Join Date: Mar 2008 Croatia Posts: 2,072	Re: [Proposal] "Homeland War" Serbia & Croatian Factions On the Croatian DMR...apparently we are still using M76's for both sniper and DMR roles (SVD as a placeholder) and a small amount of G3-SG1 (thats already in game).. If needed I might extract more info as my father is a small arms logistics officer also stick with new equipment...if you want you can always add the paramilitaries for the INS mode as there were (at least "ZNG" had them) weapons caches which are even to this day scattered around (they even found one last week)
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03-22-2009, 06:51 PM	#18
CroCop Join Date: Mar 2008 Croatia Posts: 2,072	Re: [Proposal] "Homeland War" Serbia & Croatian Factions Maybe because its not your ussual war...we have one side with a bunch of tanks, weapons and production capabilities whilst the other side has nothing but a couple of AK's,a bunch of WW2 era weapons and crop dusters instead of jets. Sure it sounds interesting to play (especially the militia vs militia concept) but IMO I do agree its almost impossible to recreate the same feeling. Giving them current arnaments in the real battles is totaly dull though but at least we could have the option to make some INS maps based in Afghanistan
CroCop Join Date: Mar 2008 Croatia Posts: 2,072

03-22-2009, 07:36 PM	#19
~~$pyker~~ Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 United Kingdom Posts: 632	Re: [Proposal] "Homeland War" Serbia & Croatian Factions dobadan kakoste lol my croat is rusty i have absolutely loads of ref pics for dubrovnik as some of my family lives out there so if you need any images let me know

03-22-2009, 09:54 PM	#20
DeltaFart Join Date: Feb 2008 United States of America Location: Glassboro NJ Posts: 2,395	Re: [Proposal] "Homeland War" Serbia & Croatian Factions I have no issues with using past wars, I mean that's waht Basrah and Fallujah are after all
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