[Proposal] New Middle Eastern Armies

[Priby]

Maybe a poll could help?

Personally i think they should keep the MEC, because in reality they would probably need the coalition, to fight against the superior US, UK, etc. Forces.

[McBumLuv]

Looking good, shouldn't take too much modeling effort, and would really give the Opfor some more punch. I love the fact that there are many Western Forces being modeled and coded by the community for pr, so why not give the Opfor the same recognition? Though if anything I wouldn't suggest disbanding any realistic asset ideas, the more the merrier. Just make a priority list along side it so that if you ever need any placeholders, you won't miss out on them.

[162eRI]

They will never get all agree. Someone said they are all muslims, yes, indeed, like the west is christian... ^^ you see my point!
We see some coalition against Israel in the past, those countries can be put in some sort of MEC (i think of Egypt, Libanon, Syria etc...). BUt like we have many different kind of West/Nato factions, it's unfair to not have MEC factions!!!
I'm for a MEC forces with other MEC allies such as Syria and Iran.
Also, MEC right now in PR is kind of unrealistic, i don't know ME countries equiped with such weapons etc...

[Tannhauser]

Oh don't get me wrong, i'm all for this idea, it's all good willing realism!

The problem is the reasons motivating many here to put the Iranian army more than any other. In fact it'd be way more likely to see Saudis fight NATO than Iranians.
Few seem to understand that most of extremist uprisings in the ME are caused by Saudi influence over the region. Basically Iranians were boyscouts compared to Saudis, but because of the occuring events from the 90's to now, the more extreme sight of Islam of Saudis has been praised more and more in the ME, making the Sharia law more proeminent and degrading the relations between them and other countries. Seriously Iran is not that evil afterall, ahmadinejad is an idiot, that doesn't make every Iranians idiots and at least, he's more talkable than Kim Jong il IMO. You'd be even surprised at how there are more Iranian women in university than men (but in seperated class).
But that's just my personal opinion. Long story short, i'd rather have Syria, Iraq, SaudiArabia, Oman, Yemen, heck even Pakistan than implementing Iran. And anyway, that would mean less work because there wouldn't be need for persian voices to make these.

Anyway, Iran + SArabia is a big no, period. Persians and Arabs hate each other, for many reasons. They don't follow islam the same way, and they don't share the same POVs and cultures either. Even if you want to fragment MEC, Iran is out of it in any case. Not the same guys, not the same team.

Ok, sorry for the OT, I guess i'm some al-qaeda scum or something

Now now, except Persian voices being hard to find, there's another plenty of small but quite annoying problems ;

- People will whine about seeing so many ME countries using western armament and vehicles.
- Large number of factions?
- The Oman faction on Muttrah? Eh?
- New maps for Syria? .. Saudi Arabia?
- NATO fighting near/in Dhubai? Wait what? Palm-Tree-Islands map? xD
- Lots of different uniforms to make.
- Lots of different camos for vehicles?
- Many, many different vehicles in use by many varied countries = big mess.
- Lots of people complaining about X faction being boring to play.
- Misinformed people saying X western asset is not realistic/boring/stupid/blablabla ..

- In the end many won't really see MUCH difference, some will even whine and say MEC was better with its old T-72 and russian&german equippment.

I'm personaly all for this, but the consequences and the size of the task is rather big. Hopefully we have the UK and US, because obviously I don't see the whole lot of NATO in PR yet, they're still in the making and for a reason ; takes time.
Also, EA did exactly what you said about MEC and NATO, they just didn't bother making NATO and represented them with the almighty USMC. It's worth a lot to make the different factions, the only thing is they should be made with accuracy and good touch.
Good idea, go ahead you have my support! But don't rush your job, I'd rather play MEC than play a bland version of Syrian army.

Good luck!

[Wilkinson]

Personally I would be accepting this. MEC honestly in all entirety stand for no Real Force. Even if we just renamed them to the Iraqi Security force I'd be happy.

[badmojo420]

Originally Posted by HughJass

mojo you have a point, but the middle east is primarily ruled by the religion of islam, and fighting against opposing religions is not out of the ordinary for islamic people (no offense). Becoming one as a military force seems like their only choice, as even their neighbors (i.e. israel) have better technology, and quite possibly a better army all together then 2-3 of the arab countries combined (no offense once again). Seeing as how the American and European Forces are after them, the only smart choice is to combine military strength.

Of course this is all just my predictions, there is a very small realism factor I am considering while making these predictions. But comparing it to all the other conflicts going on in the PR world, I don't see my explanation as being all that "crazy".

I'm not saying the MEC would cease to exist. But like NATO, the MEC nations would still operate independently. While still aiming for the same goal, against the same enemies. If the middle east united, they wouldn't throw all their troops into a big pile and create new armies. They would combine their current forces, like is happening in Afghanistan, where forces from multiple countries(NATO) have united in fighting one enemy(Insurgents) on multiple fronts.

[162eRI]

An idea:
-in red MEC Middle East Coalition between the countries of the Gulf against the increasing terrorism forces in Yemen and at the border with Irak. Not really ally with nato neither with other muslim countries, but not ennemy also !
-in yellow coalition against the NATO occupation of Irak and against Israel. Not good releations with Iran, but receive help and support from them.
-in green Iran forces. Fight against NATO and its allies, support the insurgents in Afghanistan and also in Irak (except those who aren't from the same religion). Fight also against the Russians in the North of the country because they are helping insurgents there.

[ReaperMAC]

MEC is soo BF2! Good luck mate!

[SocketMan]

Iran fighting NATO and Russia? If anything the Iranian/Russian relations will only
improve.The Russians are building the Nuclear Power stations in Iran,supplying
(allegedly) weapons and doing other friendly things why would they fight?

Many play MEC because they see certain countries as part of it,once you specify
(Iran,Syria Saudi Arabia) these "illusions" will evaporate as some like Syria but not
Iran,others like Iran but hate Iraq and so on and on - the key is that all these
players are united under the MEC flag,separate that and half of the current MEC fans won't even play the (separate) ME countries.

[DeltaFart]

People are fans of the MEC??? O_o