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Old 05-29-2008, 01:26 PM   #51
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Also we need to think about code for Vihr laser guided missiles, if you take a look this missila fly not straight a head , but fly`s with spiral trajectory.Guy from bfeditor told that bf2 allows it to fly like speral.
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:wub: soo nice it's hard to believe it's 4 BF2 ! That will be a battle in the battle to jump in at the start of the round !
Great job.
If the bf2 engine allowed this, the spriral trajectory of the AT-9 Vikhr would be awesome !

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here is some videos(Also can somebody explain me how to make hud for vihr launch system,or maybe somebody from PR team can make it i will be happy):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z03y0...eature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnRjv...ature=related#


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Old 05-29-2008, 05:14 PM   #52
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Ok guys at this moment i am on:
Game model: Poly:21879 Tri:47491
Original model: Poly:31387 Tri:67551

I have removed poly everywhere where it`s possible and almost not,to save shape of the model ,so close as possible to the original model ,polycount of this model is at 98% same as on the old ka-50(that you saw on video)and you have seen that this heli works fine.I think we need to test this level of model in game , and if we gonna test it on server 64 player we will see how it`s works ,if not i will drop polycount to lower level.
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Old 05-29-2008, 05:20 PM   #53
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what it was 31k polys, not 20k polys to start off with?

man ehhh, good luck. 15k polys is the MAX i would have it at by a long way, I would aim for 8k polys really...


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Old 05-29-2008, 05:23 PM   #54
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Id say aim for 8 000 maximum - but I could be wrong Remember that atm its at 22 000, plus you need cockpit view, lods etc! it maybe easier to remake a low detail model from scratch and just have a few bits of detailing - now that you know your way around the design, it shouldnt take too long and you could probably reuse textures etc with just a few adjustments.
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Id say aim for 8 000 maximum - but I could be wrong Remember that atm its at 22 000, plus you need cockpit view, lods etc! it maybe easier to remake a low detail model from scratch and just have a few bits of detailing - now that you know your way around the design, it shouldnt take too long and you could probably reuse textures etc with just a few adjustments.
cockpit and lods dont come into the main 3p poly count which we are on about here, they are different meshes.


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Old 05-29-2008, 05:37 PM   #56
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cockpit and lods dont come into the main 3p poly count which we are on about here, they are different meshes.
ah handy to know when I get back to work on my ARH

I dont understand how its so high oleg - sure its detailed, but 20 000 seems very high to me. Ive only modelled one heli, and I dont have your skills, but Im sure you could get it right down without losing much detail - as I say probably easier to start from scratch though, even if its a hard thing to do!
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Old 05-29-2008, 06:15 PM   #57
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ah handy to know when I get back to work on my ARH

I dont understand how its so high oleg - sure its detailed, but 20 000 seems very high to me. Ive only modelled one heli, and I dont have your skills, but Im sure you could get it right down without losing much detail - as I say probably easier to start from scratch though, even if its a hard thing to do!
You will understand why it`s to high when you will look on it from closeup.


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Old 05-29-2008, 06:26 PM   #58
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You will NEVER see it from close up. So remember, if you are not going to see it when walking around it in BF2 unless you get right up to it then it CAN go. You could probably loose a LOT that you can see too.

Dont add detail no one can see, no one will think 'wow', they will think 'Not MORE lag'.

Even if you make the thing look really ugly and quite crap to you, with a half decent skin no one will notice anything wrong in game.

XKCD forums, in the middle of a perfectly sane conversation:
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
Best post ever made!

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Nice to be blunt and to the point Jonny-_-


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Old 05-29-2008, 06:43 PM   #60
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This was the first model I made, so not the best, but it came in at 2500 polys and could easily be 1500. Im currently remaking it as the new US Army ARH ( based on the Bell 407 which the model above is )
The only detail it needs for bf2 is a few door handles and antenna - everything else can be done on the textures ( which I still have to learn to do, and will take ages )
Have a look at the current helis in PR and youll see there not that detailed, but the textures make up for it.
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