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[Silly_Savage]

Originally Posted by tmnoobage

I havn't modelled any vehicle for a while, so I decided to re-model the Dardo IFV.


Disturbingly crap original (or rather, a remake of the original, in 3ds max trial)




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Wow, that's some real talent you have.

It would be a shame if PR let someone like yourself go to waste. You should ask a Dev for a trial task. Do something that they don't have the time to do. I know quite a few people that have gotten Con and/or Dev status by doing so.

I'm predicting that you'll go far if you decide to go for it.

Once again, nice models.

[[R-DEV]Chuc]

If you are interested noobage, we have a lot of things (vehicle related too!) that need to be done

[Silly_Savage]

Originally Posted by [R-DEV]Chuc

If you are interested noobage, we have a lot of things (vehicle related too!) that need to be done

Agreed, go for it.

[[R-DEV]Rhino]

Originally Posted by tmnoobage

I havn't modelled any vehicle for a while, so I decided to re-model the Dardo IFV.


Disturbingly crap original (or rather, a remake of the original, in 3ds max trial)




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nice work but I see a lot of places which are a potential zfight hazard...

Z-fighting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You need to make parts join on fully with surrounding polys so they have no face behind them so they cant zfight though.

Here is some feedback I gave to someone ages ago about there model having zfighting problems which you can learn off I think.

Originally Posted by [R-DEV]Rhino

You are also going to get a lot of Zfighting around these parts here too since they are soo close together, here I would join them in the model with welded verts and have it all part of the same model to avoid any if your going to have a modelled cage thing, even thou slightly more polys far better than having zfighting ingame.

Now I'm not 100% sure on what would be the best way to do this, maybe some other modellers could chip in here but either you model it like you have so it comes out and it can avoid any Zfighting issues or you do it with a 2 sided plane using alpha textures and bump maps etc.

More potential zfight problems, since these faces are soo close together, behind these hatches etc, there is potential for the faces behind them to clip though etc, epically at a distance and if it dose will look like shit.

now I know Trahn mentioned your VN3 had a load of Zfighting problems on it and I can see a bunch that might happen on this model so here is some reading for you on zfighting:
Z-fighting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Avoiding Z-Fighting - GameDev.Net Discussion Forums
But ye, as mentioned in them, the best way to stop zfighting from happening is to simply not have faces close together like this. This can be done by simply adding a few extra polys to connect it all. A quick example I will do on these hatches etc.
Here I've just attached the separate objects, then deleted the old faces and welded them all up. Yes its crated a few extra polys but extra polys is FAR better than zfighting errors etc.

Now say if I delete this bit here on the front, you will notice there are no faces behind it that might be able to fight with it.


as you can see just an empty space where you can see the wheel behind it, this is what you should aim to do to have a good model, yes it takes much longer etc but its far better all round for good rendering, it helps with a lot more than just zfighting btw. Not all objects should be done this way and sometimes better off being a separate object for w/e reason but most of the time its best to do it like this.

All these objects too with perhaps the exception of the door frame but I would still do the door frame.


This side door will also have zfighting problems too, epically near the edges where it slants in, that will be a guaranteed zfighting problem there. The door on both sides btw needs fixing.


zfighting problems on these bits too:


zfighting going to happen on the hinge bits of these bits too:


these bits here too are going to have zfighting problems.

[[R-COM]FPaiva]

Originally Posted by [R-CON]exec_4ever

Every model in the scenes folder, a.k.a The whooooole shit! :P

1600x1200, ~900kb
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/k...ver/rdr5-2.jpg

I'm just wondering if maybe i can get the AI L115a3 to UV map and texture on my own

[tmnoobage]

nice work but I see a lot of places which are a potential zfight hazard...

Z-fighting - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You need to make parts join on fully with surrounding polys so they have no face behind them so they cant zfight though.

Here is some feedback I gave to someone ages ago about there model having zfighting problems which you can learn off I think.

Thanks Rhino, I appreciate the heads-up. I know boleen is a notorious tool, but there isn't any specific problems created when it's used on a BF2 model, right? My usual way of attatching something is to detatch the plane (boleen can mess up the tri's in unnecessary places), boleen it, and attatch everything together.

[[R-COM]FPaiva]

Milkor MGL 140
Some texture who i did for fun sometime ago...

[Rudd]

HOLD THE PHONE!

Originally Posted by [R-DEV]Rhino
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/6...2009031102.jpg

Epic Leakz?!

Chi AA APC varient?

[[R-DEV]Rhino]

Originally Posted by tmnoobage

Thanks Rhino, I appreciate the heads-up. I know boleen is a notorious tool, but there isn't any specific problems created when it's used on a BF2 model, right? My usual way of attatching something is to detatch the plane (boleen can mess up the tri's in unnecessary places), boleen it, and attatch everything together.

I have no idea what your talking about, never heard of any boleen tool...

I'm talking about having two faces too close together and facing the same way = zfight which happens a lot in BF2 which = very bad.

Originally Posted by Dr2B Rudd

HOLD THE PHONE!



Epic Leakz?!

Chi AA APC varient?

It's in fact a Anti-Tank vehicle which Heavy-Z was making but he then left so its on the shelf at the moment, needs a lot of fixing up.

[[R-CON]Tim270]

Originally Posted by [R-DEV]Rhino

I have no idea what your talking about, never heard of any boleen tool...

I'm talking about having two faces too close together and facing the same way = zfight which happens a lot in BF2 which = very bad.

YouTube - cresshead 3dsmax pro boolean

Surprised you never heard of it, can be useful, but as the poster said, its notorious for causing problems with the mesh.