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Old 05-18-2016, 10:10 AM   #1
[R-DEV]Mr.VdHeide
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Default [Weapon] Colt Canada C7A1 NLD & C8(A1) NLD [WIP]

Hi everyone,



Here is a little project I am working on for the Dutch Faction. Right now the Dutch Forces in game use an outdated version of the C7 (rifle) and C8 (carabine). In 2009 we started to upgrade all of our rifle's from this:



To this:

C7A1 NLD







C8NLD:






As you can see the rifle received several new parts and it is up to me to model and UV map those parts. The handguard for the C8 is done and just needs some proper UV-maps. The Buttstock is also pretty much ready for UV-maps but it might just get some more detail.


The C8NLD:









Wire frames:







For the C8NLD it is all about these 2 parts:














Some more ref's:













I haven't modeled the C7's polymer handguard extension yet, but I will do that ASAP.


Some questions:


- How should I work UV-wise? Should I make a separate .max file for each of the 3 new parts I created and make separate UV-maps for them?

- How is my tri count, should I add more or less details to the buttstock if this would be the 1st person model? And what about the 3rd Person model?


This is my first time modeling a rifle so I am going to need some good feedback.


Kind regards,






DJ.

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Old 05-18-2016, 10:28 AM   #2
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This is good news! I've been dreaming of these modifications being done for quite a while now, might finally bring the dutch faction up to the standard it deserves.

Looks awesome.

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Old 05-18-2016, 11:11 AM   #3
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Default Re: [Weapon] Colt Canada C7A1 NLD & C8(A1) NLD [WIP]

looking awesome DJ, keep it up

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Old 05-18-2016, 11:41 AM   #4
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Default Re: [Weapon] Colt Canada C7A1 NLD & C8(A1) NLD [WIP]

Feedback on model.

Missing ambidextrous selector switch and oversized mag release (it's big and round instead of being small and oval shaped).
You can see both those things in this picture.





My main issue is with the forward hand guard. I feel like you've got a few things wrong. The forward hand guard is basically Colt Canada's integrated upper receiver, read about it here.
Here's a reference pic. The one used by the dutch army seems to be a modification of this design.



The angle/shape for these areas are off, as you can see in the picture below they should just be one and the same. I'm sorry i'm terrible at describing.



(note this picture is a slightly different design)

The yellow grip should just go in that gap you can see in the picture immediately above.



Second is the space just below/above the RIS rails, seems like it is too big.


I guess the way to fix this would be to make the side rails/grip and everything slightly bigger so it fills the space better.



Lastly the dimensions look off, too thin and a little bit squished.


This is literally the only image i can find of the IUR front on but as you can see it's more symmetrical.



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Old 05-18-2016, 11:43 AM   #5
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If you need any more specific pictures i can get some at work for you. Just specify what you need.
I take it that the SRIM used is the one from PR itselve and needs remodeling?
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Old 05-18-2016, 12:16 PM   #6
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Mr. vd Heide,

Do you hate my crush? Because you are stealing all my love right now. If I find more time I am planning to start learning modelling as well to contribute something to PR.

Keep up the good work.

Ps. Is there a mapper which can give the Dutchies some Afghani love?

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Old 05-18-2016, 12:19 PM   #7
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you made this from scratch or imported one of our AR15? Best would be to use our AR15 as base. Then you dont need to worry about half the stuff and it would already be UV/textured to common textures shared between all of them. I can send you files if you want
Also please do them all:


Not sure if we have those scopes already, they dont seem to use Elcan that much.


Mineral: TIL that Wire-guided missiles actually use wire
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Old 05-18-2016, 01:36 PM   #8
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Default Re: [Weapon] Colt Canada C7A1 NLD & C8(A1) NLD [WIP]

As far as I know and what all my reference material so far support is that we only use the Aimpoint Comp M4 with or without a 3x magnifier on these rifles.

The bottom one is the Colt C7 LOAW, its exclusively used by the Royal Netherlands Marine Core as a mag fed machine gun. (LSW)

Also dont forget to add the Magpull mag assist:


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Old 05-18-2016, 01:41 PM   #9
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We've got the comp m4 and 3x magnifier.

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Old 05-18-2016, 01:42 PM   #10
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As far as i know magpull is not standard issue, only see them on occassion. Believe on own purchase.

The batteryholder on the SRIM could use some more length. And possibly add some lens covers to make it complete.

Are you gonna go with the clear lens on the SRIM or the ''gauze'' overlay for bright conditions?

Picture showing the difference (i am aware they are not the same aimpoints but still applies):
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