Update: Project Reality v0.86 Upcoming Patch Release

[thunderway]

at begining ... ty for WONDERFULL game ... and for ur hard job *


all new v in pr is like new game

but


1.SL - ironsight ??? that is true ? ... if yes WHY ?

2. Qwai ? hmmm if Us sux with TOW's HAT ... chines push them back to main very quicly ... ok i can agree ... but like Colonel said , make 32 with new zero tank's vs 64 with old fashin qwai

3. medic limmited ? ... is hard now to find GOOD medic in sqad ... so that will be more harder if u can have only one ? (server playing not the Clan War that is different)

4. 60 sec wait when someone revive u ... hmm i agree bleeed to death is ok , but wtf with RP ? ... and FB realistic ... yea ... i died and then opps i come back from space at the rp :/ why we dont change spawnpoints ? if we wana change medic specification

5. IRONSIGHT for SL ?? :/ then i dont wana be a office

6 karbala - apachi = to small for THIS map ! is like bird in trap :/
6a - INS AA ? kill apachi when apachi hear aiming and droping FLARES ? :> what with that?

7 zoom for MG - ... :/ why not add LAT shot to right click to him ? i think it is to much :/ SNIPING with mg ^^ very funny but that is reality not vanila

8 ah1 huey at jabal - 3 US apc's + ah1 huey + air LIFT ? .... against mecs APC ? :/ = lets start jabal at mec main :> that will be the same :/

and last WHEN will be 0.87 ? (ironic)

[Rudd]

Originally Posted by thunderway

1.SL - ironsight ??? that is true ? ... if yes WHY ?

Some maps aren't kind on scopes, SL likes choice


3. medic limmited ? ... is hard now to find GOOD medic in sqad ... so that will be more harder if u can have only one ? (server playing not the Clan War that is different)
I have no trouble finding good medics for public games, work with ur medic, don't expect mother to run around fixing everyone's booboos without help

4. 60 sec wait when someone revive u ... hmm i agree bleeed to death is ok , but wtf with RP ? ... and FB realistic ... yea ... i died and then opps i come back from space at the rp :/ why we dont change spawnpoints ? if we wana change medic specification
I have no idea what you said

5. IRONSIGHT for SL ?? :/ then i dont wana be a office
YOU CAN CHOOSE look at the picture!


7 zoom for MG - ... :/ why not add LAT shot to right click to him ? i think it is to much :/ SNIPING with mg ^^ very funny but that is reality not vanila
If the at4 etc had a scope as standard they would I think, maybe for Russians

8 ah1 huey at jabal - 3 US apc's + ah1 huey + air LIFT ? .... against mecs APC ? :/ = lets start jabal at mec main :> that will be the same :/
Lets see how it plays out I guess

some of the information u asked for has been given already

[[R-DEV]OkitaMakoto]

1. SL has a CHOICE now.... Iron or ACOG

3. Instead of complaining that the 4 medics in your squad suck, just make sure the ONE you have doesnt. Ive never had a problem getting a decent medic/one who will learn in a few minutes. Its not rocket science. its CPR once or twice just in case, epipen, and then healing. Maybe smoke if needed...

4. 60 second wait means if you are killed within 60 seconds of revive[meaning you were prolly revived in a still hostile area] then you will be considered KILLED and ant be revived. This rewards clearing an area before reviving everyone.

5. YOU HAVE THE CHOICE

7. Zoom on a weapon doesnt simply make it a lazer accurate beam cannon. Deviation will still exist, in fact, I wouldnt doubt if since its ZOOMED IN, youll think its deviating MORE than it used to because youre seeing rounds hit "further" from one another due to the zoom

[TheParadoX]

Originally Posted by [R-DEV]OkitaMakoto

Fuzzhead already made a LONG post about this somewhere else, maybe someone can track it down for you..

The gist of what he said:
We gamers have been trained with this sort of "god almighty HEADSHOT" that puts a headshot above and beyond a sucking chest wound, above a shot to the femoral artery, above a shot through the heart... This is, also, far from unrealistic in terms of what disables, completely or almost entirely, a soldier on the field. Its Counter Strike and every other FPS out there that has put a headshot up on a pedestal as the twitch shooting gamers dream. And while a headshot might in most cases kill an individual, there are plenty of other areas that would effectively do the same...

The fact is, as someone said above, the medic class is far from realistic, but its not going anywhere. It gives more teamwork than it harms, and is a great method of keeping tactical squads together.

Now, since we dont have chest shots killing, we also wont have headshots killing.

If you come across a target in the filed, chances are you will be going for center mass. The only real exception here is a sniper[or tank or something] And in which case, the sniper should just be placing shots better to down the medic and such to avoid these issues of the revive[which is NOW fixed as killing someone 60 seconds or under from their revive KILLS them]

Hope that made some sense from where we're coming from

I remember, because he was replying to one of my posts. I insisted to have an official statement on this. This position is debatable, but IMHO the new medic system will lead to a whole new nasty tactical habit:

The relentless picking up of medic kits (which makes no sense in the first place - a kit doesn't give you the knowledge). This reminds me of old BF2 times where you could spawn on your SL, and as soon as he died he would leave the SQ and join back so he could spawn on the new living SL. It became part of the game pretty quickly :/

What will happen if someone manages to pick up an enemy medic kit ? And how to prevent 2 squads with one medic each to merge into one squad with 2 medics ?

I am really curious to see this new version at work to see the differences between the theoratical part and how the players will actually act !

Most changes are very good, though.

[Ace42]

Originally Posted by TheParadoX

This reminds me of old BF2 times where you could spawn on your SL, and as soon as he died he would leave the SQ and join back so he could spawn on the new living SL. It became part of the game pretty quickly :/

Urm, you can't join squads whilst dead in vBF2, only during briefing or alive. This isn't possible.

[Rudd]

The relentless picking up of medic kits (which makes no sense in the first place - a kit doesn't give you the knowledge).

What will happen if someone manages to pick up an enemy medic kit ? And how to prevent 2 squads with one medic each to merge into one squad with 2 medics ?

1) medics didn't go to medical school, all soldiers (at least in US and British armies, I assume the rest do too, but I don't know as a fact) get basic live saver training, that means basic pharmaceutacle intervention (adrenaline/morphine) AED training (thats the defibs) and other life saving training. Sure, the average guy isn't gonna be performing surgery. But ingame we don't perform surgery, medic is a gameplay dynamic, rather than a black and white realistic aspect of the battle. So a dude picking up the actual medical kit, isn't stupid.

you have 2 medics or more, ok u can revive more, but the squads you come accross will have more grenades and possible other goodies to kill you with cuz they have a spare slot. and merging in the way you say will take more effort than reward

[TheParadoX]

Originally Posted by Ace42

Urm, you can't join squads whilst dead in vBF2, only during briefing or alive. This isn't possible.

Which part of "This reminds me of old BF2 times" needs clarification ?

[[R-DEV]OkitaMakoto]

Originally Posted by TheParadoX

I remember, because he was replying to one of my posts. I insisted to have an official statement on this. This position is debatable, but IMHO the new medic system will lead to a whole new nasty tactical habit:

The relentless picking up of medic kits (which makes no sense in the first place - a kit doesn't give you the knowledge). This reminds me of old BF2 times where you could spawn on your SL, and as soon as he died he would leave the SQ and join back so he could spawn on the new living SL. It became part of the game pretty quickly :/

What will happen if someone manages to pick up an enemy medic kit ? And how to prevent 2 squads with one medic each to merge into one squad with 2 medics ?

I am really curious to see this new version at work to see the differences between the theoratical part and how the players will actually act !

Most changes are very good, though.

Im pretty sure a number of coding and other steps were taken to eliminate issues you brought up. There was a thread on them during testing...

But its not fool proof concerning some ways to possibly get more medics in squads, etc, but like I said, steps were taken to make the ways to do that either not possible, or just an annoying step for a relatively small advantage. Besides, if you can get 2 medics, its still better than being able to get, say, 5... :P

Basically, the last I saw, its not perfect, but it will definitely REDUCE the number of medics in the field... which, in the end, is the ultimate goal, I guess

[TheParadoX]

Originally Posted by Dr2B Rudd

1) medics didn't go to medical school, all soldiers (at least in US and British armies, I assume the rest do too, but I don't know as a fact) get basic live saver training, that means basic pharmaceutacle intervention (adrenaline/morphine) AED training (thats the defibs) and other life saving training. Sure, the average guy isn't gonna be performing surgery. But ingame we don't perform surgery, medic is a gameplay dynamic, rather than a black and white realistic aspect of the battle. So a dude picking up the actual medical kit, isn't stupid.

you have 2 medics or more, ok u can revive more, but the squads you come accross will have more grenades and possible other goodies to kill you with cuz they have a spare slot.

Fair enough. But that won't change the problem a bit

[Ace42]

Originally Posted by TheParadoX

Which part of "This reminds me of old BF2 times" needs clarification ?

Clearly the "old". That exploit has been out of vBF2 for as long as I have been playing it, and we're looking at a framework of several years now.