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Old 05-17-2009, 03:43 PM   #171
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1 medic per squad
death if critically wounded twice
plus headshots

and then we have some reality, hard as it is (IMO)
I agree, I think we should do this.
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Old 05-17-2009, 04:32 PM   #172
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meh, its easier to completely remove medic than do such changes and result will be same
and guys, irl you do not respawn, so lets remove respawn until end of round, it will be so realistic


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Old 05-17-2009, 04:37 PM   #173
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meh, its easier to completely remove medic than do such changes and result will be same
and guys, irl you do not respawn, so lets remove respawn until end of round, it will be so realistic
Now you lost your argument, you're comparing oranges with apples.

I'm so sorry if medics in real life can't treat 7.62mm headshots or soldiers that had been shot 15 times and if that in game would prejudice your gameplay... maybe you should try playing BF2v.

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Old 05-17-2009, 04:55 PM   #174
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Now you lost your argument, you're comparing oranges with apples.

I'm so sorry if medics in real life can't treat 7.62mm headshots or soldiers that had been shot 15 times and if that in game would prejudice your gameplay... maybe you should try playing BF2v.
you better give some arguments from your side(ofc not only parroting "realism, realistic etc.")

medic is completely unrealistic thing ingame so judjing only from realistic pov is mistake, there are different ways to change medic system and headshots is only 1 part of it, whole point of headshots is to lessen number of revives, 1 med per squad and time limit is another
as i already stated, in new version "reviving fest" is gone, further changes to lessen revives will make medic kit useless(nobody will take it like the civilian kit) so it easier to completely remove it

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You get critically wounded and get revived with no penalties (like movement speed, aim or something/idk if its possible to apply)
there are penalties, black&white vision, unable to sprint, gets wounded in 60 seconds>dead


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Old 05-17-2009, 05:01 PM   #175
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the AK 47 very good in game, better than m16/4 IMO. also you said "I want a damn car to blow up if i hat it into the engine damnit)"

i was merely stating that a HAT will destroy a car ingame so didnt understand your complaint.

the RPG is not a HAT.
Now i see why youre talking about the HAT...it was a damn typo (wanted to say "hit")

the current AK47 does need slight nerfing (well in full auto its a bit too accurate) but 30% is a bit more then it should be (15-20% would be better)
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Old 05-17-2009, 05:02 PM   #176
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you better give some arguments from your side(ofc not only parroting "realism, realistic etc.")

medic is completely unrealistic thing ingame so judjing only from realistic pov is mistake, there are different ways to change medic system and headshots is only 1 part of it, whole point of headshots is to lessen number of revives, 1 med per squad and time limit is another
as i already stated, in new version "reviving fest" is gone, further changes to lessen revives will make medic kit useless(nobody will take it like the civilian kit) so it easier to completely remove it

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there are penalties, black&white vision, unable to sprint, gets wounded in 60 seconds>dead
And you solve all those penalties with a first aid kit? and plus, how many times you want! you just have to give a break of 60 seconds!

Ok so!

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Old 05-17-2009, 05:58 PM   #177
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What's the word on explosives and the new "improved" medic changes?

Currently you can:
* have 5 squadies wiped out by a frag and then squadie 6, medic, runs along and start reviving left/right and centre = whole squad up and running in a minute or two.

* have 5 squadies wiped out by 3 IEDs and then squadie 6 . . . up and running in a minute or two.

* have a guy take an RKG-3 to the head and then a medic . . . up and running in a minute or two.
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Old 05-17-2009, 06:20 PM   #178
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you better give some arguments from your side(ofc not only parroting "realism, realistic etc.")

medic is completely unrealistic thing ingame so judjing only from realistic pov is mistake, there are different ways to change medic system and headshots is only 1 part of it, whole point of headshots is to lessen number of revives, 1 med per squad and time limit is another
as i already stated, in new version "reviving fest" is gone, further changes to lessen revives will make medic kit useless(nobody will take it like the civilian kit) so it easier to completely remove it

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there are penalties, black&white vision, unable to sprint, gets wounded in 60 seconds>dead
why do every other FPS shooter have headshots including bf2, AND earlier PR versions and now its removed...? head is head no matter what you do, I tell you can next remove essentials like sprinting or jumping or grenade throwing....

you allready start to considering removing medic class for sure...

dont just remove things if they are difficult in gameplay, just think more how to improve them. this patch will change the medic gameplay issue forever, so bring back the temporary solution like "disabled headshot"
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Old 05-17-2009, 09:05 PM   #179
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why do every other FPS shooter have headshots including bf2, AND earlier PR versions and now its removed...? head is head no matter what you do, I tell you can next remove essentials like sprinting or jumping or grenade throwing....

you allready start to considering removing medic class for sure...

dont just remove things if they are difficult in gameplay, just think more how to improve them. this patch will change the medic gameplay issue forever, so bring back the temporary solution like "disabled headshot"
Fuzzhead already made a LONG post about this somewhere else, maybe someone can track it down for you..

The gist of what he said:
We gamers have been trained with this sort of "god almighty HEADSHOT" that puts a headshot above and beyond a sucking chest wound, above a shot to the femoral artery, above a shot through the heart... This is, also, far from unrealistic in terms of what disables, completely or almost entirely, a soldier on the field. Its Counter Strike and every other FPS out there that has put a headshot up on a pedestal as the twitch shooting gamers dream. And while a headshot might in most cases kill an individual, there are plenty of other areas that would effectively do the same...

The fact is, as someone said above, the medic class is far from realistic, but its not going anywhere. It gives more teamwork than it harms, and is a great method of keeping tactical squads together.

Now, since we dont have chest shots killing, we also wont have headshots killing.

If you come across a target in the filed, chances are you will be going for center mass. The only real exception here is a sniper[or tank or something] And in which case, the sniper should just be placing shots better to down the medic and such to avoid these issues of the revive[which is NOW fixed as killing someone 60 seconds or under from their revive KILLS them]

Hope that made some sense from where we're coming from


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Old 05-17-2009, 09:50 PM   #180
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In that case, why does the headshot still critically wound in 1? It's still useful to aim for the head, no matter what, unless you make shooting the head the same as the body.


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