Win7 x64 RC / BF2 audio problem

Jaymz · 12-02-2009, 09:21 PM

Problem summary,

When I used Win XP : I had proper surround sound in BF2
After I switched to Win 7 RC : Only stereo sound

Well, this has been going on for months now. Ever since I installed the Win7x64 beta, BF2 will only give me stereo sound. I've tried multiple drivers changes, uninstalling BF2 and re-installing it in XP compatibility mode, multiple different openal updates and multiple different BF2openal.dll's.

Now here's a few weird things to note...,

1. Windows 7 will not give me the option of selecting "headphones" in the playback devices menu (there's no icon or selection for it). Even though I've selected "optimize speaker output for headphones" in the creative console, windows still only says "speaker" in the playback devices.

2. I downloaded the openal SDK. And in it, I get full surround sound emulation in headphones just like I did in BF2 with windows XP. This is what BF2 uses ffs! But for some unknown reason, BF2 seems to think I'm only using a 2.1 speaker system.

NOTE : I'm specifically talking about OpenAL HRTF surround that is built into BF2. Basically, if you are using a hardware audio renderer, BF2 will simulate 3D surround sound with stereo headphones. I'm not talking about 5.1

Comp : Dell XPS M1730
Sound Card : Creative X-fi Surround 5.1 USB
OS : Win 7 RC X64

[R-DEV]Twisted Helix · 12-03-2009, 12:03 AM

If its any consolation their 3D surround is kacked as well. Its the new WDM layer that MS implemented .... creative have been unable to get their drivers to work with it properly for some reason.

Createive X-Fi Surround 5.1 USB sound issues - Windows 7 Forums

Possible light in the tunnel ....

Working Sound Blaster X-Fi series Support Pack 1.0 - Windows 7

Updated one for the Win7 release

http://forums.creative.com/t5/Sound-...009/m-p/527485

Robbi · 12-03-2009, 01:22 AM

Yeah, Win 7 has fracked a lot of peeps up with their MMCS service, my end its network lag due to compensation for the service :/

Tis crap even more when the fixes dont fix :/

i'll check thiose links out Twisted, n1

Jaymz · 12-03-2009, 02:44 AM

Update

I tried out Jedi Academy (another OpenAL game) and headphone surround emulation works perfectly. So the OpenAL SDK works properly, Jedi Academy works properly, but BF2 doesn't....

It's looking more and more like a BF2 problem........

Robbi · 12-03-2009, 09:06 AM

What sound drivers are you running? Win 7 Beta Drivers or Win 7 release drivers?

Edit: What EAX version is Jedi Academy?

Jaymz · 12-03-2009, 02:28 PM

EAX is a different thing. It's to do with effects processing like reverb etc. For example, with Win XP, I could turn off EAX in BF2 and still have proper OpenAL headphone surround.

What I believe is happening is, the BF2OpenAL.dll is incompatible with the Win7 64-bit RC (at least when my sound card is involved).

Robbi · 12-03-2009, 05:07 PM

I know its my question of questions, but what Driver version are you running?

Jaymz · 12-03-2009, 05:22 PM

The latest Win7 beta driver for my card : "USB_PCDRVBETA_US_1_01_0098.exe"

Creative Worldwide Support

Robbi · 12-03-2009, 09:23 PM

Tried using Vista Drivers? It has been known to cure some Win 7 issues.

Ser Jergen · 12-07-2009, 03:56 PM

For some reason i can hear with my head phones but BF2 wont pick up my mic. It works for skype. is there anyway i can fix this?

12-02-2009, 09:21 PM	#1
Jaymz Retired PR Developer Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 8,978 Ireland Blog Entries: 5	Win7 x64 RC / BF2 audio problem Problem summary, When I used Win XP : I had proper surround sound in BF2 After I switched to Win 7 RC : Only stereo sound Well, this has been going on for months now. Ever since I installed the Win7x64 beta, BF2 will only give me stereo sound. I've tried multiple drivers changes, uninstalling BF2 and re-installing it in XP compatibility mode, multiple different openal updates and multiple different BF2openal.dll's. Now here's a few weird things to note..., 1. Windows 7 will not give me the option of selecting "headphones" in the playback devices menu (there's no icon or selection for it). Even though I've selected "optimize speaker output for headphones" in the creative console, windows still only says "speaker" in the playback devices. 2. I downloaded the openal SDK. And in it, I get full surround sound emulation in headphones just like I did in BF2 with windows XP. This is what BF2 uses ffs! But for some unknown reason, BF2 seems to think I'm only using a 2.1 speaker system. NOTE : I'm specifically talking about OpenAL HRTF surround that is built into BF2. Basically, if you are using a hardware audio renderer, BF2 will simulate 3D surround sound with stereo headphones. I'm not talking about 5.1 Comp : Dell XPS M1730 Sound Card : Creative X-fi Surround 5.1 USB OS : Win 7 RC X64
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12-03-2009, 12:03 AM	#2
[R-DEV]Twisted Helix Operations Management Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 5,075 United Kingdom Location: Glasgow Blog Entries: 4	Re: Win7 x64 RC / BF2 audio problem If its any consolation their 3D surround is kacked as well. Its the new WDM layer that MS implemented .... creative have been unable to get their drivers to work with it properly for some reason. Createive X-Fi Surround 5.1 USB sound issues - Windows 7 Forums Possible light in the tunnel .... Working Sound Blaster X-Fi series Support Pack 1.0 - Windows 7 Updated one for the Win7 release http://forums.creative.com/t5/Sound-...009/m-p/527485

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12-03-2009, 01:22 AM	#3
Robbi Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,597 Tuvalu Location: .l..	Re: Win7 x64 RC / BF2 audio problem Yeah, Win 7 has fracked a lot of peeps up with their MMCS service, my end its network lag due to compensation for the service :/ Tis crap even more when the fixes dont fix :/ i'll check thiose links out Twisted, n1
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12-03-2009, 02:44 AM	#4
Jaymz Retired PR Developer Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 8,978 Ireland Blog Entries: 5	Re: Win7 x64 RC / BF2 audio problem Update I tried out Jedi Academy (another OpenAL game) and headphone surround emulation works perfectly. So the OpenAL SDK works properly, Jedi Academy works properly, but BF2 doesn't.... It's looking more and more like a BF2 problem........
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12-03-2009, 09:06 AM	#5
Robbi Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,597 Tuvalu Location: .l..	Re: Win7 x64 RC / BF2 audio problem What sound drivers are you running? Win 7 Beta Drivers or Win 7 release drivers? Edit: What EAX version is Jedi Academy?
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12-03-2009, 02:28 PM	#6
Jaymz Retired PR Developer Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 8,978 Ireland Blog Entries: 5	Re: Win7 x64 RC / BF2 audio problem EAX is a different thing. It's to do with effects processing like reverb etc. For example, with Win XP, I could turn off EAX in BF2 and still have proper OpenAL headphone surround. What I believe is happening is, the BF2OpenAL.dll is incompatible with the Win7 64-bit RC (at least when my sound card is involved).
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12-03-2009, 05:07 PM	#7
Robbi Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,597 Tuvalu Location: .l..	Re: Win7 x64 RC / BF2 audio problem I know its my question of questions, but what Driver version are you running?
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12-03-2009, 05:22 PM	#8
Jaymz Retired PR Developer Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 8,978 Ireland Blog Entries: 5	Re: Win7 x64 RC / BF2 audio problem The latest Win7 beta driver for my card : "USB_PCDRVBETA_US_1_01_0098.exe" Creative Worldwide Support
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12-03-2009, 09:23 PM	#9
Robbi Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 3,597 Tuvalu Location: .l..	Re: Win7 x64 RC / BF2 audio problem Tried using Vista Drivers? It has been known to cure some Win 7 issues.
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12-07-2009, 03:56 PM	#10
Ser Jergen Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 67 United States of America Location: DFW, Texas	Re: Win7 x64 RC / BF2 audio problem For some reason i can hear with my head phones but BF2 wont pick up my mic. It works for skype. is there anyway i can fix this?

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