[Proposal]Blackwater in Georgia map

[MMad]

Originally Posted by driver-ch-driver

lol the PLA exists IRL

I'm aware that the PRC has an army... ¬_¬ But as far as I know, the USMC hasn't been invading mainland China lately. :P So even though the PLA exists and the MEC doesn't, both the the MEC and the PLA *conflicts* in BF2 and PR are fictional, is what I meant. Just like the Russian/German conflict I believe is planned.

Point remains: given these fictional conflicts and their vague backstories, there could be all kinds of plausible reasons for PSCs to find work in these parts of the world.

[VisOne]

Originally Posted by paracowboy

Is the PMC we are talking about here more like the guy who decides one day to be a "body guard", takes a 2 week course, gets his state license and then walks Brittany Spears to her limo.

Of course we are not talking about body guards, security guards, bouncers or crowd controllers. No one has said any thing to that effect at all.

Originally Posted by paracowboy

OR are we talking about a company like Blackwater who is hired to protect State Department officials in a warzone like Iraq that is staffed 100% by former military and mostly by former special forces?

The former of those 2 will probably never fire a gun in his life and frankly I would rather play an accounting simulator than that. On the other hand Blackwater (I know this is not a Blackwater sim, I just know the most about them) would often use 2 blackhawks to follow their convoys and have former SF snipers covering them from above. That is a pretty daunting task.

Now your on the ball but a problem still remains as long as your using Blackwater as this romantic basis for what, how and when a PSC is deployed or run. Your always going to get a some back lash from some of community. Because it our eyes Blackwater has brought a unreasonably larger amount of negative press and stigmatised that idea of what a PSC is created to do. It seems and this hasn't always being true but Blackwater personnel and maybe even the people running the company find it hard to draw the line at helping protect there business interests and not engaging in full blown unauthorised conflicts.

So my suggestion is to move away from using Blackwater as your basis for further "realistic" ideas of maps or campaigns. We are lucky enough that unlike other mini mods for PR we are no limited pre-say by what we can create by where our force has being deployed. Because in reality our force doesn't exist its a fictional amalgamation of a number of corporations including to some degree Blackwater.

So with that were right back to my original post.

Originally Posted by VisOne

Although the idea of a PSC map/mission in Georgia or some other eastern block/former USSR state certainly is worth some thought.

[[R-DEV]Spush]

Well, to be honest, wouldn't mind seeing a woodish map, like fighting the chechians, or aka defending against them, since PSC is a "defensive". Either ways it would be interesting seeing a close quarters combat a straight on fight against someone, like some sorta well armed forces vs an organized terrorist group. Just what I was thinking.

[Roborob]

I think it would be awesome to see them in a map in a place other than Russia Iraq and China (HUGE generalizations btw). Since they are fictional and could be anywhere. Why not have a map set somewhere like a tropical Island or South American jungle/city. It would be a big change from the standard PR maps and could be really cool. In fact I was just thinking about that seaside Brazilian city at the beginning of the Second (new) Incredible Hulk movie, and how it would be too great to play on a map similar to that.

[Fractal]

Don't know anything about Black Water but
Georgia vs Russia would be cool with
Russian heavy armors rolling in Georgian gorges through tunnel in the territory already occupied by Russians, they would need to storm the town The Georgian forces have gathered around with strong artillery support and chances of destroying bridges and maybe tunnel too. Russians must have strong air support with fighters and SU-25s for later and Georgian SU-25s only one time at the beginning. Russians may have ballistic rockets as well.
That would be realistic and cool. Don't you agree?


Georgian forces could be used against MEC or Insurgents alongside Americans or Brits. Georgia had the third biggest contingent in middle east after US and UK for some time.

[[R-DEV]Spush]

Well not really having Georgian forces, but having a PSC force in a Georgian based map, with a confrontation with Chechen or Russian forces would be cool..

[Fractal]

Well, if so I would suggest ADJARA region as it is in Georgia, at Turkey border and with Russia's interests as well.
Its main city Batumi has SEA PORT that Turks can claim for use by some century old treaty, and Russian forces military base was present there until present, even long after Soviet fall.
It has some Muslim population in christian Georgia as it has been under Turkey rule through history.
There has been some clashes between Georgia's official government and Regions leader supported by RUSSIA and private militias(BBC) -> CNN And the main road BRIDGE has been exploded at that clashes -> BBC
POLICE TAPE of that times shows weaponry common in this Game.


BTW. There is one of the farrest Roman forts from Rome there -> Gonio

SO, lots of tips for MAP and SCENARIO.
I can help with Georgian sounds if needed.