[Map] Sangin - Update

[Rudd]

I'm disappointed you havent included a layer featuring the warrior instead of rovers but I guess its a realism decision.

Don't put too many WMIKs in or you get the situation where you have the entire team in a vehicle and no1 cache hunting - i.e. the team becomes one huge FSG and gets pwned eventually.

[solid84]

keep at it

[McBumLuv]

Love the new update. Very smexy

[M_Striker]

May I ask why the Taliban will not have at least one AA weapon (hand held missile)? Seems fitting when there is an Apache on the map because you at least have technicals. But what happens when you have an A10? AA guns?

[Mora]

Afaik there will only be no aa on the AAS version.

[masterceo]

there is no A10, only harrier

[CryOfTheWulfen]

Brilliant plans!

Question; will the death timer be high enough to allow chinhooks to fly around the dome to the back to drop off troops, or the taliban could learn the routes. I'd imagine you'd have thought of this but you didnt say

[[R-DEV]Dr Rank]

Originally Posted by M_Striker

May I ask why the Taliban will not have at least one AA weapon (hand held missile)? Seems fitting when there is an Apache on the map because you at least have technicals. But what happens when you have an A10? AA guns?

I have only stated that in the King of the Hill layer the Taliban will have no AA kits. They wouldn't be a) realistic b) needed. Although the Taliban will be very limited when trying to take on the harrier (again, realistic), the harrier will only be able to inflict a certain amount of damage. When you have 32 Taliban moving in on the FOB from all sides, able to make use of a large amount of concealment to get in close, one harrier isn't going to be able to take them all on. In this layer I will probably remove the commander assets too.

Originally Posted by Mora

Afaik there will only be no aa on the AAS version.

Correct. aa in the other layers will have to be tested a great deal to get the balance right. One thing we discovered during testing is that the apache has a hard time spotting enemy troops on the ground, even when they are engaging other BLUFOR forces, keeping the gameplay balanced well. Again, more testing will help when it comes to making the final decisions.

Originally Posted by masterceo

there is no A10, only harrier

There will be a layer with the A10 (probably 16 player layer, which like Kashan will only differ in assets, not player numbers). The harrier will feature in one of the insurgency layers (probably the 32 player layer) and will be the only CAS available in the King of the Hill layer.

Originally Posted by CryOfTheWulfen

Brilliant plans!

Question; will the death timer be high enough to allow chinhooks to fly around the dome to the back to drop off troops, or the taliban could learn the routes. I'd imagine you'd have thought of this but you didnt say

Yes, the chinooks will not effected by the smaller combat zones around the bases and will be able to fly freely around the map.

[McBumLuv]

I like the AA. Well managed technicals will require teamwork for once in downing enemy air assets, which as stated, are useless on their own.

As to the Harrier, it's slower than the A-10 even (dunno about when it's handling is fixed though ), and so could theoretically be able to be shot down by .50 cal, but I wouldn't rely on that. The thing is, however, that it doesn't need to necessarily be shot down. Balancing with it should be a different mentality than simply "we must destroy teh asset!!!1!" Detering it from the area with .50 cals, hiding, seeking shelter, eliminating Blufor spotters and keeping the jet grounded are all ways to keep it from dealing it's biggest punch. As a great boxer once said, "You can't hit what you can't see"

[Mercenario(peru)]

im waitin for this new map, good work [R-DEV]Dr Rank thanks for the update... the map looks awesome...