[Kit] Medic!

[[R-CON]Tomato-Rifle]

Yay medic will have a sight!


Anyway nice work, lol its going to be comlicated to be a medic and hard.
BTW can u kill with the pensil thing

[Charity Case]

The new medic effects look superb! Please "stick" with the auto-injector.

[ReaperMAC]

If people are still complaining that the EpiPen is used to treat "allergic reactions" why not just say, that the soldiers are "allergic" to bullets, and when they come in contact with it, they 'faint' and EpiPen treats it .

[M.Warren]

Originally Posted by [R-DEV]Masaq

Absolutely not. Your information is seriously out of date, and if you still require a first aid certificate for any kind of formal work you do, you desperately need to get it updated.

Current guidelines recommend 30 compressions to 2 breaths; if you're giving a breath every 5 compressions you're wasting valuable time trying to pump more oxygen into the body when there's enough in the blood to be going on with.

Although it may be old and out of date, it still represented a point in time where the practice was considered official. This was all meant to depict a tangible example of what it should be, even if it is a brief animation.

Just so happens that I'm not a full-time student nurse 3 months away from receiving a pin though. Like I said, it was simply to the best of my knowledge and being slightly familiar with first aid. As the few things that was learned was from my own personal extent to become familiar with the basic essentials of CPR some time ago. Which is still better off than not knowing what to do in an emergency to begin with.

Seeing as the new methods of "Resuscitation" require 30 compressions and 2 breaths per cycle, I highly doubt we'll be creating a soldier animation to accurately represent this either. Nor would we see medical personnel attempting CPR by pressing repeatedly down on someones chest at 5 compressions per second. Unless the soldier in the video happens to have a heartrate of 300 beats per minute which no human being should ever have.

Just asking for alittle bit of refinement in the animations. Even if it's not the official method, let's try get as close as possible for visual purposes. This is just to help people avoid saying "You know what? We should have done it this way the first time...".

[Sparky Speirs]

Nice job!!!

[Rudd]

For goodness sake people, its not meant to be hyper correct, its a symbolically realistic to represent the act of providing first aid to a casualty, not to be the 100% realistic thing to do, its to unstick bodies to ensure they can be rezzed!! the epipen again is symbolic of drug intervention to maintain blood pressure etc,

from another thread ages ago, I believe we discussed teh AED, and I think it was stated that the AED would be found in the vehicle etc, more advanced defibrillator systems are out since these medics ingame are not necessarily trained in such systems.

If it was CORRECT, it would be CPR, with another guy setting up the IV, blah blah blah, and the chopper/armoured vehicle arrives and the casualty is returned to base and either sent on after somewhere like camp bastion to a friendly country/home country for more treatment, or remains in the country waiting for the time he/she can return to duty....

fact is that given the limitations of the BF2 engine, and the time/effort required of devs for each thing, what we have been given is excellent, bleeding awesome, brilliant.

The only thing that could be refined is the CPR rate, so can ppl stop coming on and telling the guys who have been in contact with military advisors as well as having years of first aid experience under their belt that they are wrong.

[jbgeezer]

OMG this is so nice you need to work hard to beat PR now or... let me see... PR is invincible now!Yea!!

[Raniak]

I remember seeing a documentary where they had those "automatic CPR machines"... it guided you through CPR, it did 30 compressions to the chest then a female voice said "breath twice". It also had integrated shock paddles. In the documentary they talked about how it would be useful for soldiers, etc.

Anyway, I think that update look really good, make it feel like the medic is actually doing something instead of calling the power of Thor to heal gunshots.

[arakis]

Originally Posted by gumball

CPR is not hard to perform. Just put one hand on top of the other and lock your finger together, then lock your elbows and your in business. The way he has it in the picture is correct except, at least when i was trained, you have to put your hand between the nipples and on the sternum.

Also to the devs, the compressions that he delivers is way too quick, each compression should last around 1 second. It sounds like the breathing sound that's triggered is just right for the compression rate.

I`m sorry but thats not right, I`m Paramedic and Male Nurse in Germany and i never reanimated a patient like this.

first of all I like the idea to integrate an CPR to the game!

In Europe we got the guidelines to beginn cpr with compression 30 times, with a frequency of 100 compressions per minute. sounds much, but is necessary for a reasonable reanimation, trust me.
aber the first 30 compressions comes 2 straigt breathings to the patient.
after 2 periods of reanimation u give the adrenalin, or try an electro shock with an AED.

I don`t know the actual guidelines for north america or the us army,
but I think, they`re quiet simmilar to ours.

Greetings

arakis

European Resuscitation Council Guidelines for
Resuscitation 2005
ERC European Resuscitation Council

[GoreZiad]

Awesome. Good job.