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Old 08-03-2008, 11:08 AM   #111
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Some devsaid that this would be adressed shortly before 0.8 comes out.

Nice medic update.

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Old 08-03-2008, 11:11 AM   #112
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Question is the breathing from the when using cpr the weapon fire noise or is it from the patient?

Cuz it would be mighty usefull to use CPR to check if someones still alive...
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Old 08-03-2008, 11:16 AM   #113
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I'm not going to pin any blame on any dev's. It's understandable to include something on that. I've already stated my reasons about the EpiPen needing to be excluded or at least used as a different drug in a different step. I'd just hate to have the immerison of such a good update be ruined like that. I've always wanted to do full CPR on the people I revived in-game.


Also, I read someone's post about the CPR hand placement. I haven't ever heard of that sort of hand positioning, it sounds uncomfortable. And yes, chest compressions are supposed to be preformed quickly as it increases the chance of survival if done correctly.
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Old 08-03-2008, 11:18 AM   #114
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0.7 is vanilla if compared with 0.8 as I could see until now.
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Old 08-03-2008, 11:32 AM   #115
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Question is the breathing from the when using cpr the weapon fire noise or is it from the patient?

Cuz it would be mighty usefull to use CPR to check if someones still alive...
You don't use CPR to check if someone is alive or not, unless they're faking it and you start pushing deep on their chest like that and they suddenly jump up hollering.

The real check during CPR is when you use a head tilt chin lift (Or jaw thrust if you suspect C-Spine injury..) and you check for Breathing (Lower hand, look at the person's chest. Look for rise and fall, breath on your ear, and sound) and a pulse at the artery in the neck.


Also, something I just found while flipping through my EMS Field Guide that I was given from a friend this morning, I found the doseages.

Epipen gives .3 - .5 mg.
1 mg is given when administered during CPR through IV.
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Old 08-03-2008, 11:55 AM   #116
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The DEVs have the right idea with the EpiPen.

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Old 08-03-2008, 11:56 AM   #117
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In the future, they found a way to administer high enough doses through injections safely.

Problem solved.


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Old 08-03-2008, 12:00 PM   #118
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The DEVs have the right idea with the EpiPen.

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That's not an EpiPen. That's a different procedure. That's pure adrenline that's injected into, i think, the right atrium of the heart. That's used in hospitals only. That's also very dangerous if you don't know how to do it right. The most likely way to do it would be through the IV line.
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Old 08-03-2008, 12:01 PM   #119
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It's called a joke.
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Old 08-03-2008, 12:05 PM   #120
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In the future, they found a way to administer high enough doses through injections safely.

Problem solved.
Epinephrine still doesn't revive the person. An AED device is what does it. The chest compressions and rescue breathing simplely keeps the blood pumping because you're manually operating the heart and keeps tissue from dying. Now there are times where all you need is the chest compressions in the first place because the heart's electrical activity has messed the hearts rhythm up and all it needs is a good tap to reset it. That generally happens because of electric shock.
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