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Old 06-27-2009, 07:58 PM   #1

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Default Is there other way to find out a CTD cause ?

So, after loading Ramiel I have CTD's. I set the game to run in windowed mode to get the error mensage, but once in this mode, the game loads normally!!!

Is there other way to find out a CTD cause ?


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Old 07-01-2009, 01:39 PM   #2

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Old 07-01-2009, 02:52 PM   #3

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I don't know too much about finding the cause of CTDs, so I may not be the best help in the world . . .

But if we look at file sizes and compare, maybe we can find a missing file got lost somewhere along the way?

'ramiel' folder in 'levels' weighs in at 79.2 mb according to Windows Explorer.

Inside 'ramiel' folder, 'client.zip' is 73.9 mb, last modified 8/23/2008. 'server.zip' is 1.56 mb, 5/13/2009.

I've also heard the 'Init.con' file plays big part in the map. It is 3.79 kb, last modified 5/13/2009.


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Old 07-03-2009, 05:01 PM   #4

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I don't know too much about finding the cause of CTDs, so I may not be the best help in the world . . .

But if we look at file sizes and compare, maybe we can find a missing file got lost somewhere along the way?

'ramiel' folder in 'levels' weighs in at 79.2 mb according to Windows Explorer. (CHECKED)



Inside 'ramiel' folder, 'client.zip' is 73.9 mb , last modified 8/23/2008 (CHECKED) . 'server.zip' is 1.56 mb, 5/13/2009. (CHECKED)

I've also heard the 'Init.con' file plays big part in the map. It is 3.79 kb, last modified 5/13/2009.

Where is that Init.con file ?!?!?! I didn't find it in my Ramiel's folder.


Thanks for the help.


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Old 07-03-2009, 06:23 PM   #5
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What Cyrus posted has nothing to do with this at all.

This CTD occurs most likely due the infamous memory error. BF2 uses 2 Gb of RAM at maximum and PR maps, especially ones like Ramiel tends to need a lot of RAM. Now there should never be an issue where you don't have enough RAM to load a map, unless you play with a really crap PC, but RAM is also needed for your video settings.
So assuming you play at high settings with max res and loading a memory consuming map, the result will be CTD.
Why it did not CTD while windowed? Because (I'm assuming) you ran the game at a smaller resolution. Smaller res, less stuff to load, less memory usage.

Either resize your in-game resolution to a smaller one or lower your settings, you'll have to wait for BF2 1.5 patch for that 2 Gb limit to be removed.

I had the same issue with CTDing on consuming maps like Ramiel, Fallujah etc. and lowering my video settings from high to medium worked and now I have no more crash issues, plus there isn't much difference between high and medium in overall, although high does render some small details, but usually no one pays attention to them anyway, unless they walk around maps starring at stuff instead of playing.

You can still configure the settings to be a mix of high/medium settings, generally the Dynamic lightning and Dynamic shadows use most for rendering all the neat soldier and vehicle shadows and lighting effects, so might wanna keep them at medium, also Lighting should be at medium since on high you get the liquid texture bug on sandbags.
Lighting is basically lightmap textures - the shadows you see on terrain and buildings - so loading a map with loads of them - like Ramiel which has hundreds of static objects that have lightmaps - could also bring in extra load on the memory.


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Old 07-03-2009, 10:54 PM   #6

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Every map's Init.con is located inside the server.zip of the map folder. (Forgot to mention that.) You can also see my computer's ramiel Init.con to check if they match up with yours, below in the attachment.

Outlawz advice might be more help than mine. I was only going on the broken file theory.
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File Type: txt Init ref.txt (3.8 KB, 4 views)


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Old 07-04-2009, 07:13 AM   #7
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Is an error-less CTD a symptom of this memory problem?

I'm getting error-less CTD's after a few hours of play. It's really annoying me since I rarely see out an entire map.
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Old 07-04-2009, 07:22 AM   #8
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I've just checked my settings and I'm all on medium with AA off.

I wonder if I've got some underlying hardware issue then. Only happens after about 1-2 hours of playing though, without warning the process just quits with no error as far as I can see.

ALSO: I'm not sure if returning to the desktop causes taskbar notifications to show up, but I always get a notification come up when it crashes. Maybe the notification is causing the crash, or the crash and returning to desktop is causing the notification.

My specs are:
q6400
4gb ram
8800gt
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Old 07-04-2009, 09:41 AM   #9
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Hi @ all with CTDs,

I had also big problems with CTDs when i started playing PR (0.856).
It everytime crashed, loading a map or after a fue minutes playing.
How did I solve the problem?
I installed the latest drivers for my graphics-(8800GT) and soundcard(X-FI).

After that I could play a whole round without CTD. While loading the map for the next round, I had again a CTD.
Solution for this problem was: I reinstalled whole PR.

So sometimes you see, reinstallation is the best solution
I hope it helps you...
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Old 07-04-2009, 12:13 PM   #10
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You can try the memory patch to eliminate some of the CTDs
http://realitymodfiles.com/ancient/BF2MemoryPatch.zip
I still CTD sometimes after couple of rounds, but atleast not on specific maps.
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